RE: Lamborghini LB744 gets unique 'monofuselage'
RE: Lamborghini LB744 gets unique 'monofuselage'
Wednesday 15th March 2023

Lamborghini LB744 gets unique 'monofuselage'

Aeronautic influence creates lighter, stronger carbon tub for Aventador replacement


You’d be forgiven for picturing the worst when thinking of Lamborghini and carbon fibre, but the good folk of Sant’Agata have been pretty pioneering with the black stuff over the years. Then did awful things to Uruses with it. The Aventador was carbon tubbed, don’t forget, and Lamborghini actually patented and used Forged Composites (teeny tiny bits of carbon soaked in resin) as far back as 2008.  

For the 1,015hp LB744, Lamborghini says it has employed carbon fibre in a unique way. With inspiration from the world of aviation, the new car will be underpinned by something called a ‘monofuselage’, a monocoque entirely created from multi-technology carbon fibre. Apparently it’s going to be lighter and more torsionally rigid than the Aventador chassis, to the benefit of driving dynamics. Which is quite some promise, given how spectacular the later SV and SVJs were. With, let’s not forget, around 250hp less.  

Specifically, the monofuselage is said to be 10 per cent lighter than the Aventador’s chassis, with torsional stiffness up 25 per cent to 40,000Nm per degree, ‘guaranteeing best-in-class dynamic capabilities’. The old aluminium front subframe has gone, too, replaced by a carbon item - Lamborghini says this new model is the first super sports car to be fitted with one - which further benefits to weight and rigidity. A CFRP (carbon fibre reinforced plastic) rocker ring ‘encloses and connects the Forged Composite elements’.

Even where aluminium is used (at the back of the car), there’s a focus on less weight and more stiffness. Plain old autoclave, prepreg carbon is going to be employed for the roof; Lamborghini has decades of experience there, of course, but just as importantly the more traditional method ‘gives the customer maximum versatility in roof customisation’. So it’ll still be an old-school Lambo in some regards. 

So significant is the chassis overhaul, in fact, that Lamborghini believes the LB744 represent ‘year zero’ for a new era of carbon in cars - a whole reset. No doubt other supercar manufacturers would have something to say about that, but then it wouldn’t be a new Lamborghini without some swagger.

There’s even a new acronym for the fresh start: AIM, or Automation, Integration, Modularity. The details of which involve lots of complex phrases like ‘preheated polymers’, ‘compression moulding’ and ‘discipline of composites’; stick with it, though, and the interesting stuff comes under Modularity, where Lamborghini talks of more flexible technology ‘to respond to all the product requirements and characteristics’. Which sounds like a lot of the LB744’s clever construction stuff will be used for plenty of future Lamborghinis, presumably including the Huracan’s plug-in replacement. Exciting times ahead, indeed.   


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Pusikurac

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121 posts

70 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Uh, oh, that V12 in n the back. Poetry. The rest, don't care.

TonyRPH

13,546 posts

198 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Inspired by the Smart car...

Number9

93 posts

233 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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I clicked on the article thinking Ariel had updated the Nomad

BananaFama

5,034 posts

109 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Dam you drip feeding info , what does the car look like with a finished body ?

TerryFarquit

113 posts

157 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Anyone else thinking Tamiya?

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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I'm not completely sure what it is about modern Lamborghinis, but I never find myself as interested in them as I probably should ..... maybe??

Maybe its the Audi and VAG parentage?

Maybe it's the all wheel drive powertrain?

Maybe it's the styling of the models which feels a little too "form" led, rather than "function"?

Maybe it's how common they have become, and thereby detracting from the "WOW" factor if one is seen on the road?

Maybe it's also due to the types of people and social media types that buy them, and make a habit of smashing them off their rev limiters in urban settings?

Whatever mix of the above it might be, I just can't seem to put them into the same category as Ferrari, McLaren, and others ......... Similarly, I can't slot them next to the likes of Pagani or even Bugatti, as bargain alternatives that offer not-much-better performance in the real world.


All of the above unfairly detracts from the incredible engineering going into these cars, and their persistence with NA V12 engines.

romac

608 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Number9 said:
I clicked on the article thinking Ariel had updated the Nomad
Ha! Came here to ask if Lamborghini were copying Ariel!

mwmackenzie

139 posts

293 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Wow that looks fabulous and very compact! That said the gentleman on the frontline does not sound very Italian hahahaha.... I'm sure it will be a dream poster car from Lamborghini as the Countach was when I was a boy

Frogmella

364 posts

120 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Don't understand Lamborghini. Terrible.

Steering is dreadful, your backside doesn't correlate with the sound being made and they feel quite vague through the twisties.


All style and no substance.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

186 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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mat205125 said:
Maybe it's the styling of the models which feels a little too "form" led, rather than "function"?
Almost all car appearance is form, not much function - unless you're talking the absolute cutting edge like the Ioniq 6, VW XL1 or for hypercars McLaren Speedtail or Senna.

And almost always people moan about the function vehicles looking crap. You can't win.

Glenn63

3,956 posts

114 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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mat205125 said:
I'm not completely sure what it is about modern Lamborghinis, but I never find myself as interested in them as I probably should ..... maybe??

Maybe its the Audi and VAG parentage?

Maybe it's the all wheel drive powertrain?

Maybe it's the styling of the models which feels a little too "form" led, rather than "function"?

Maybe it's how common they have become, and thereby detracting from the "WOW" factor if one is seen on the road?

Maybe it's also due to the types of people and social media types that buy them, and make a habit of smashing them off their rev limiters in urban settings?

Whatever mix of the above it might be, I just can't seem to put them into the same category as Ferrari, McLaren, and others ......... Similarly, I can't slot them next to the likes of Pagani or even Bugatti, as bargain alternatives that offer not-much-better performance in the real world.


All of the above unfairly detracts from the incredible engineering going into these cars, and their persistence with NA V12 engines.
I’m the other way, it’s the only supercar manufacturer I am interested in. All the rest sound awful and have gone for numbers over drama and excitement. I’d take a Huracan evo rwd over anything else I think. 812 aside as that V12 cloud9

paulrockliffe

16,606 posts

257 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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mwmackenzie said:
Wow that looks fabulous and very compact! That said the gentleman on the frontline does not sound very Italian hahahaha.... I'm sure it will be a dream poster car from Lamborghini as the Countach was when I was a boy
Compact? It looks massive and it doesn't have all the appendages stuck on the front and back ytet.

mk1coopers

1,461 posts

182 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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How are you going to repair that when a when an over ambitious you tuber gets it wrong ?

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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GroundEffect said:
mat205125 said:
Maybe it's the styling of the models which feels a little too "form" led, rather than "function"?
Almost all car appearance is form, not much function - unless you're talking the absolute cutting edge like the Ioniq 6, VW XL1 or for hypercars McLaren Speedtail or Senna.

And almost always people moan about the function vehicles looking crap. You can't win.
100% correct, of course.

Plenty of motoring press have been vocal about the Gordon Murray GMA T50 being bland / dull and lacking of "drama". For something so niche and low volume, I can see Murray taking those comments as confirmation he's been successful, however if we was trying to shift thousands of units in the Hurracan and Aventador market and price point, I can see why his cliental might be looking for something a little more "showey"

pquinn

7,167 posts

76 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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mk1coopers said:
How are you going to repair that when a when an over ambitious you tuber gets it wrong ?
Only a problem if you use it. But yes they are making parts that are going to be vulnerable to terminal damage from things that ordinarily wouldn't be an issue. Can think of a couple of things a carbon subframe would get upset by that aluminium would shrug off.

Skipping back to the bit about forged carbon, my memory of the history of the trials was it started off as a route to recycling carbon fibre aircraft scrap? As there is plenty of material especially in modern aerospace that ends up needing recycling and it's always mixed short strands by the time it's processed (especially if finished structures are shredded & pyrolyzed) so something was needed to absorb the supply of short fibre. Lamborghini maybe picked up on this process & the cosmetics but the background started elsewhere & isn’t glamorous.

RumbleOfThunder

3,725 posts

233 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Strenght.

Wadeski

9,044 posts

243 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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So their revolutionary new technologies is to use several existing technologies in different bits of the chassis?

Revolutionary marketing, perhaps.

mwstewart

8,583 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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+ 25% rigidity and - 10% weight. Sounds really good to me.

Frogmella

364 posts

120 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Glenn63 said:
mat205125 said:
I’m the other way, it’s the only supercar manufacturer I am interested in. All the rest sound awful and have gone for numbers over drama and excitement. I’d take a Huracan evo rwd over anything else I think. 812 aside as that V12 cloud9
Have you driven an Evo? Very disappointing

SmartVenom

462 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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TerryFarquit said:
Anyone else thinking Tamiya?
100% yes! I’m sure I’ve built kits that are very, very similar. I’m looking forward to the bodyshell reveal.