Last of the old or first of the new?

Last of the old or first of the new?

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Chris Hinds

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483 posts

167 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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My daily is now 4.5 years old and has to be changed at 6 years to remain within my company car policy at present. Can’t really see anything on the market that I could replace it with other than one of the same car though maybe with a different engine.

Question is should I order a current model car that will likely arrive around end of year but not have the mandatory nanny state limiter, or do I wait to the full 6 years and get the new model due to be released mid next year but will have the nanny state device.

What would your choice be? Trying to avoid mentioning the car as it’s more the principle than the vehicle itself.

Thanks

Chris

FarmerJim

419 posts

161 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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If you like the current car then go for that and do everything in your power to avoid the nanny state stuff.

Jamescrs

4,546 posts

67 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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I'd be inclined to go for the older one personally assuming you are happy with it, I don't know too much about the limiters I must admit, I assume there must be a bypass or override option? but either way I'd avoid it as long as you are happy not to have the latest thing.

AC43

11,560 posts

210 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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In the past I used to advocate going for car towards the end of their production runs as, typically, there would have been a facelift along the way which would often iron out a lot of engineering stuff.

Plus manufacturers would sometimes add more kit, especially if there was a run-out model.

I'm not sure if the latter still happens but the facelift process is still a thing.

valiant

10,441 posts

162 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Always prefer last of the old as all the niggles will have been worked through over its life cycle and you should have a reliable, sorted, worry free ownership experience.

Too many brand new models are released where the first owner seemingly does the final real world testing of the vehicle and annoying faults seem a bit too commonplace especially where software is concerned.

TheDrownedApe

1,051 posts

58 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Reading the regs:

There’s now going to be a data logger fitted. If there’s an accident and the black box shows the feature was disabled and the speed was excessive, drivers may invalidate their insurance.

Unless the new model is far better I would go for the old version if you are happy with the model.

_Rob

108 posts

161 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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I've always regretted buying cars that are too similar to each other back-to-back. I enjoy the change and feeling of having something different. I'd therefore aim for the newer model, and I'm not too worried about the many state stuff as we'll all have to deal with that eventually.

Terminator X

15,215 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Chris Hinds said:
My daily is now 4.5 years old and has to be changed at 6 years to remain within my company car policy at present. Can’t really see anything on the market that I could replace it with other than one of the same car though maybe with a different engine.

Question is should I order a current model car that will likely arrive around end of year but not have the mandatory nanny state limiter, or do I wait to the full 6 years and get the new model due to be released mid next year but will have the nanny state device.

What would your choice be? Trying to avoid mentioning the car as it’s more the principle than the vehicle itself.

Thanks

Chris
For me personally speed limiters on every ignition cycle are to be avoided. I do have cruise and speed limiter on the current car however I can choose to turn it on or not which is better and as it should have stayed.

TX.

Whataguy

860 posts

82 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Last of the old model is what I did with my Golf 7.5, as a run out model they usually add extra kit and you know the bugs have been worked out over it's lifecycle.

I could have had a Golf 8, but they have loads of issues and some can't actually be fixed at all on the first year or so of the new model.

Nanny tech on the newer VW's is actually ok and I leave it on, whereas on the 2021 Honda I used to own it was absolutely awful and had to be switched off every single drive.

Decky_Q

1,533 posts

179 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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In 05 I bought an l200 pick up. The new model was out but there were new old models available too. I picked the old one as it was tried and tested etc and regretted it alot.
New model was made to overcome design shortfall in the old and was better in every aspect.

clockworks

5,432 posts

147 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Just a thought:

If you fitted a private plate, how would your employer know that your car was more than 6 years old?

ZX10R NIN

27,747 posts

127 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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I'd be buying the last of line model where I had the choice smile

Gerradi

1,543 posts

122 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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clockworks said:
Just a thought:

If you fitted a private plate, how would your employer know that your car was more than 6 years old?
Check for Tax - Mot will show date registered ...

bigmowley

1,921 posts

178 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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Another vote for last of the old model here. Unless there is something outstanding in the new model then the tried and tested old one gets my vote every time. There are usually great deals to be had on the old model especially when there are stocks to clear, the new model is usually not discounted at all while the new launch honeymoon period is on.
I practice what I preach, my current daily is a 316 Merc Sprinter, bought new in 2018 after the current model was launched, I got one of the last of the older ones. It’s been totally faultless so far despite a fairly tough life as a builders runaround. I got a shed load of extras thrown in free, 0% finance, metallic paint etc etc. in addition the new one had a list that started about 5K higher than the old one. The new one is also dripping with emissions tech and lots more electronics, neither of which is well suited to life on a building site laugh

DickP

1,132 posts

152 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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TheDrownedApe said:
Reading the regs:

There’s now going to be a data logger fitted. If there’s an accident and the black box shows the feature was disabled and the speed was excessive, drivers may invalidate their insurance.
My 2017 Skoda has one already according to the build sheet. Suspect manufacturers started designing them in ahead of the reg change.

CrippsCorner

2,847 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Interesting, I seem to be the only person that'd go for first of a new model... I'll just always want the 'new thing' smile plus niggles, meh, features!

sunnyb13

967 posts

40 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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always new,