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Just returned one which I got as an emergency lease car. I quite liked it, decent steer but sloth like. Interior was quite nice and it had a lot of toys. I preferred it to our previous family wagon, a Volvo V90, but my wife didn't like it at all.
As the previous poster said it was economical, averaged 41mpg which I thought was great for a petrol estate car.
As the previous poster said it was economical, averaged 41mpg which I thought was great for a petrol estate car.
MasterZ said:
It's true that compared to a Mondeo, the estate options you've found in the Auto Trader for 5.5k with sensible mileage seem relatively inexpensive. Additionally, you mentioned that other brands with similar specifications could be 2k more expensive.
Regarding your question about their reliability, I have heard that estates in general are often considered reliable vehicles. However, it's important to note that the reliability of a specific make and model can vary. To determine if these particular estates are good and reliable, I would suggest conducting thorough research on the specific make, model, and year you're considering. Look for reviews from reputable sources, check the vehicle's history and service records if available, and consider getting a pre-purchase inspection from a trusted mechanic.
By gathering as much information as possible about the specific estates you're interested in, you can make a more informed decision and increase your chances of finding a reliable vehicle that meets your needs. Good luck with your search!
Why does this look like its been written by AI? Its a very generic responseRegarding your question about their reliability, I have heard that estates in general are often considered reliable vehicles. However, it's important to note that the reliability of a specific make and model can vary. To determine if these particular estates are good and reliable, I would suggest conducting thorough research on the specific make, model, and year you're considering. Look for reviews from reputable sources, check the vehicle's history and service records if available, and consider getting a pre-purchase inspection from a trusted mechanic.
By gathering as much information as possible about the specific estates you're interested in, you can make a more informed decision and increase your chances of finding a reliable vehicle that meets your needs. Good luck with your search!
GeniusOfLove said:
The diesels have a catastrophically bad reputation, plenty turn up at trade auctions with seized engines.
Petrols are good and reliable, and they hit book economy figures, but gutless if you're used to turbocharged cars.
We have a 2011 2.2d with 120k on the clock. It’s been reliable however!… the cam chain replacement service cost £1200!Petrols are good and reliable, and they hit book economy figures, but gutless if you're used to turbocharged cars.
Make sure that’s been done. A stretched cam chain makes the dpf light illuminate.
Had a couple of 6 petrol estates. They were spacious, reliable and decently equipped. Low running costs for the amount of car you get. Not bad to drive either. I would have another if I needed a big everyday car again.
If you want anything other than pretty leisurely performance you'll need to go for the 2.5.
If you want anything other than pretty leisurely performance you'll need to go for the 2.5.
t ,moved it on purely based on that…As an aside, Mazda are one of the few brands that do an official update to the infotainment system to add CarPlay/AndroidAuto which should solve issues with shoddy built in satnav etc. on cars slightly too old to have it from new.
eg: https://www.snows.co.uk/mazda/servicing-offers/ret...
eg: https://www.snows.co.uk/mazda/servicing-offers/ret...
I have a 2019 Mazda6 Estate which I bought at the end of last year, I'm really pleased with it. Mine is the Sport Nav+ with the 2.0 petrol engine, I'm lucky to frequently drive some very fast cars and while the Mazda isn't what you'd call quick, it's far from dangerously slow and can be driven reasonably swiftly.
Fuel economy is good, I've averaged 36.6mpg since purchasing it in December, a mixture of long runs and lots of short trips where it doesn't get fully up to temperature. On a long run from Hertfordshire down to Wiltshire on a sunny Sunday morning where I maintained a speed between 85 and 95, I averaged 43mpg which was impressive.
Build quality seems good, mine is only on 32k miles but there aren't any squeaks or rattles. Sometimes the infotainment system doesn't play ball, but switching off/on does the trick. Mine has the cream leather inteior which makes it feel special for what it is.
Equipment levels are high, mine isn't the top of the range but still has heated seats/steering wheel, 360 degree cameras, Bose stereo, adaptive cruise control, double glazed front windows, electric memory seats, LED lights etc.
It drives well for a large estate, I think it rides really well but I'll be the first to admit my bar of entry here is quite low
It's got a decent sized boot (500L+), but if practicality is your main priority then a Skoda Superb estate or Volvo V70/90 will have bigger boots.
There are a few differences between the 2016 and 2019 models (they were facelifted in 2018), but engines and gearboxes remained the same. My parents had a 2016 saloon in petrol automatic guise brand new for 3 years, which was faultless. The auto gearboxes while strong, are not the quickest and do blunt the performance.
Fuel economy is good, I've averaged 36.6mpg since purchasing it in December, a mixture of long runs and lots of short trips where it doesn't get fully up to temperature. On a long run from Hertfordshire down to Wiltshire on a sunny Sunday morning where I maintained a speed between 85 and 95, I averaged 43mpg which was impressive.
Build quality seems good, mine is only on 32k miles but there aren't any squeaks or rattles. Sometimes the infotainment system doesn't play ball, but switching off/on does the trick. Mine has the cream leather inteior which makes it feel special for what it is.
Equipment levels are high, mine isn't the top of the range but still has heated seats/steering wheel, 360 degree cameras, Bose stereo, adaptive cruise control, double glazed front windows, electric memory seats, LED lights etc.
It drives well for a large estate, I think it rides really well but I'll be the first to admit my bar of entry here is quite low
It's got a decent sized boot (500L+), but if practicality is your main priority then a Skoda Superb estate or Volvo V70/90 will have bigger boots.There are a few differences between the 2016 and 2019 models (they were facelifted in 2018), but engines and gearboxes remained the same. My parents had a 2016 saloon in petrol automatic guise brand new for 3 years, which was faultless. The auto gearboxes while strong, are not the quickest and do blunt the performance.
GiveItSomeWellie said:
I have a 2019 Mazda6 Estate which I bought at the end of last year, I'm really pleased with it. Mine is the Sport Nav+ with the 2.0 petrol engine, I'm lucky to frequently drive some very fast cars and while the Mazda isn't what you'd call quick, it's far from dangerously slow and can be driven reasonably swiftly.
Fuel economy is good, I've averaged 36.6mpg since purchasing it in December, a mixture of long runs and lots of short trips where it doesn't get fully up to temperature. On a long run from Hertfordshire down to Wiltshire on a sunny Sunday morning where I maintained a speed between 85 and 95, I averaged 43mpg which was impressive.
Build quality seems good, mine is only on 32k miles but there aren't any squeaks or rattles. Sometimes the infotainment system doesn't play ball, but switching off/on does the trick. Mine has the cream leather inteior which makes it feel special for what it is.
Equipment levels are high, mine isn't the top of the range but still has heated seats/steering wheel, 360 degree cameras, Bose stereo, adaptive cruise control, double glazed front windows, electric memory seats, LED lights etc.
It drives well for a large estate, I think it rides really well but I'll be the first to admit my bar of entry here is quite low It's got a decent sized boot (500L+), but if practicality is your main priority then a Skoda Superb estate or Volvo V70/90 will have bigger boots.
There are a few differences between the 2016 and 2019 models (they were facelifted in 2018), but engines and gearboxes remained the same. My parents had a 2016 saloon in petrol automatic guise brand new for 3 years, which was faultless. The auto gearboxes while strong, are not the quickest and do blunt the performance.
Many thanks for all the replies, im not going to be doing huge milage so petrol is the way to go say.Fuel economy is good, I've averaged 36.6mpg since purchasing it in December, a mixture of long runs and lots of short trips where it doesn't get fully up to temperature. On a long run from Hertfordshire down to Wiltshire on a sunny Sunday morning where I maintained a speed between 85 and 95, I averaged 43mpg which was impressive.
Build quality seems good, mine is only on 32k miles but there aren't any squeaks or rattles. Sometimes the infotainment system doesn't play ball, but switching off/on does the trick. Mine has the cream leather inteior which makes it feel special for what it is.
Equipment levels are high, mine isn't the top of the range but still has heated seats/steering wheel, 360 degree cameras, Bose stereo, adaptive cruise control, double glazed front windows, electric memory seats, LED lights etc.
It drives well for a large estate, I think it rides really well but I'll be the first to admit my bar of entry here is quite low
It's got a decent sized boot (500L+), but if practicality is your main priority then a Skoda Superb estate or Volvo V70/90 will have bigger boots.There are a few differences between the 2016 and 2019 models (they were facelifted in 2018), but engines and gearboxes remained the same. My parents had a 2016 saloon in petrol automatic guise brand new for 3 years, which was faultless. The auto gearboxes while strong, are not the quickest and do blunt the performance.
It is a good looking car ,
As long as I can get a couple of bikes in the back with the seats down ,
I'm driving a very tired 20yr old combo diesel van at the mo so refinement won't be an issue,
And my entertainment is limited as the grandson jammed the cassette player, and I'm stuck on AM on the radio.
If I want a spirited drive I will get the carrera out. Although with the traffic and the state of the roads around here that's not very often, im very odd I prefer my van that I've had for 20 odd yrs .
I had a 66 plate 2.2d Sport Nav that I sold on last year. It was always reliable and never caused me any trouble - barring one of the wing mirrors started not folding in/out correctly but a minor thing. Nice place to sit, decent steer and loads of toys, my only real gripe was the wind/road noise level - coming from an A4 it seemed really noisy by comparison.
I fit my hybrid bike in the back with the seats down.
The 2.2d comes in 2 power options - 150hp and 175hp. I looked around for a 175 and a simple remap had it up at 220 which made it a much nicer place to cruise. The famous issues tend to be caused by the diesels doing low mileage - the ecu dumps more fuel into the engine to regen the DPF, then the engine gets turned off and the fuel mixes with and dilutes the oil.
There was a minor update at the end of 2016 where they changed the HUD to a much nicer white font rather than the blue of the older one. They also added a heated steering wheel - look for the button next to the passenger heated seat (the older one had a button to turn off the parking sensors instead). I believe they also fiddled with the engine to reduce the previous oil/fuel issues. You find both models on 66 plates and they're identical on the outside, but worth trying to find a newer one IMO.
I fit my hybrid bike in the back with the seats down.
The 2.2d comes in 2 power options - 150hp and 175hp. I looked around for a 175 and a simple remap had it up at 220 which made it a much nicer place to cruise. The famous issues tend to be caused by the diesels doing low mileage - the ecu dumps more fuel into the engine to regen the DPF, then the engine gets turned off and the fuel mixes with and dilutes the oil.
There was a minor update at the end of 2016 where they changed the HUD to a much nicer white font rather than the blue of the older one. They also added a heated steering wheel - look for the button next to the passenger heated seat (the older one had a button to turn off the parking sensors instead). I believe they also fiddled with the engine to reduce the previous oil/fuel issues. You find both models on 66 plates and they're identical on the outside, but worth trying to find a newer one IMO.
Edited by ilikejam on Tuesday 23 May 12:32
ilikejam said:
I had a 66 plate 2.2d Sport Nav that I sold on last year. It was always reliable and never caused me any trouble - barring one of the wing mirrors started not folding in/out correctly but a minor thing. Nice place to sit, decent steer and loads of toys, my only real gripe was the wind/road noise level - coming from an A4 it seemed really noisy by comparison.
I fit my hybrid bike in the back with the seats down.
The 2.2d comes in 2 power options - 150hp and 175hp. I looked around for a 175 and a simple remap had it up at 220 which made it a much nicer place to cruise. The famous issues tend to be caused by the diesels doing low mileage - the ecu dumps more fuel into the engine to regen the DPF, then the engine gets turned off and the fuel mixes with and dilutes the oil.
There was a minor update at the end of 2016 where they changed the HUD to a much nicer white font rather than the blue of the older one. They also added a heated steering wheel - look for the button next to the passenger heated seat (the older one had a button to turn off the parking sensors instead). I believe they also fiddled with the engine to reduce the previous oil/fuel issues. You find both models on 66 plates and they're identical on the outside, but worth trying to find a newer one IMO.
I had a 2013 175 sport nav with leather.I fit my hybrid bike in the back with the seats down.
The 2.2d comes in 2 power options - 150hp and 175hp. I looked around for a 175 and a simple remap had it up at 220 which made it a much nicer place to cruise. The famous issues tend to be caused by the diesels doing low mileage - the ecu dumps more fuel into the engine to regen the DPF, then the engine gets turned off and the fuel mixes with and dilutes the oil.
There was a minor update at the end of 2016 where they changed the HUD to a much nicer white font rather than the blue of the older one. They also added a heated steering wheel - look for the button next to the passenger heated seat (the older one had a button to turn off the parking sensors instead). I believe they also fiddled with the engine to reduce the previous oil/fuel issues. You find both models on 66 plates and they're identical on the outside, but worth trying to find a newer one IMO.
Edited by ilikejam on Tuesday 23 May 12:32
The main issue is that the injectors weren't torqued down enough at the factory allowing the seals to leak and exhaust gases to get into the crankcase and carbonise the oil. This then clogged the mesh in the sump before the oil pump pick up causing oil starvation....and then turbos and brake servos seizing and ultimately the engine to seize. There was a recall done a few years ago to retorque the injectors. Anyone with a 2013-2018 model should get the sump off sharpish to check the mesh.
I was lucky that I managed to avoid a new engine.
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car was on 66k miles.
Edited by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tuesday 23 May 15:30
I had a 2014 2.2D estate as a company car many years back, put 40k on it in a year before leaving the company, had zero problems with it although it was only 3 years old when I got it, on 20k ish, so 60k when I last had it. Had TomTom built into the infotainment, which seemed to work well for me, especially like the radio controls near the armrest, made for comfy daily.
We have a 68 plate (19MY) 2.5 tourer, top spec in red, that we bought at 18 months old in early 2021. It's pretty economical, excellent seats (though not perhaps quite as comfortable as a volvo seat, its very adjustable and heated/ventilated), really well spec'd and we have no complaints. Done 25k miles in it now and have had no problems apart from a couple of punctures needing new tyres. I think 19' wheels is a bit much on a family estate but they are all like that now. My wife preferred it to the volvo alternative that I proposed, the equivalent spec V60/90 was a good 8k more. Other point to note is that the soul red paint is very thin and attracts stone chips. Overall though, would recommend.
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