Rounded wheel stud removal

Rounded wheel stud removal

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Kerniki

Original Poster:

1,960 posts

23 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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genius wheel refurb company has decided to round off one of the security wheel bolts on our range rover and have rinsed their hands of the rectifying the problem.

I’m no stranger to getting my hand dirty and love a chalenge rolleyes

Is there un ultra strong bolt extraction tool like the one i once used to get some head bolts out?

The kind with a lhd thread on it but capable of some serious torque as apparently the bolt felt like it was welded to the hub, yeah right…


davidexige

491 posts

208 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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I had one stuck on my RRsport, I managed to get if off using a set of these. They do a couple of different sets, you just need to make sure the size you need is included in the set.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-3...

Kerniki

Original Poster:

1,960 posts

23 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Thanks, ordered thumbup

Irwin do seem to be the go to, watched some vids of comparison with cheaper brands and they just broke whereas the irwin held out for multiple extractions.

See how it goes..

gheath

5 posts

7 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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If those fail, you can always weld a large nut to the top of the bolt and undo it from the nut.... if you have a welder.

duncancallum

843 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Flare nut from a brake pipe...

You tube it....

TroubledSoul

4,606 posts

196 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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I had an issue like this and ended up drilling it out...

But I've had success on others with the Irwins or the locking nut removal set Laser do. IIRC the Irwins are 3/8" and the Laser are a better 1/2".

E-bmw

9,337 posts

154 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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duncancallum said:
Flare nut from a brake pipe...

You tube it....
Without watching all of youtube I can't find anything that might look like that.

TwinKam

3,024 posts

97 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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E-bmw said:
duncancallum said:
Flare nut from a brake pipe...

You tube it....
Without watching all of youtube I can't find anything that might look like that.
I was intrigued too... I really want to see how a hollow flare nut (max 13mm hex) would be strong enough to crack a wheel bolt that's so tight that its (min 17mm hex) been rounded off...

Chris32345

2,094 posts

64 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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TroubledSoul said:
I had an issue like this and ended up drilling it out...

But I've had success on others with the Irwins or the locking nut removal set Laser do. IIRC the Irwins are 3/8" and the Laser are a better 1/2".
You will be a long time drilling a hardened steel wheel bolt out

TroubledSoul

4,606 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Chris32345 said:
You will be a long time drilling a hardened steel wheel bolt out
I was lucky, it was an Audi bolt with the middle of the head hollow.

Wacky Racer

38,301 posts

249 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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gheath said:
If those fail, you can always weld a large nut to the top of the bolt and undo it from the nut.... if you have a welder.
This.

donkmeister

8,360 posts

102 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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TwinKam said:
E-bmw said:
duncancallum said:
Flare nut from a brake pipe...

You tube it....
Without watching all of youtube I can't find anything that might look like that.
I was intrigued too... I really want to see how a hollow flare nut (max 13mm hex) would be strong enough to crack a wheel bolt that's so tight that its (min 17mm hex) been rounded off...
Are these flare nuts LH thread tapered? Can't see how it would work otherwise.

Might as well try a nut extractor if so.

Chris32345

2,094 posts

64 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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At a guess it only works on locking wheel nuts bit fitting in-between the spinning coller and the centre part of the nut

E-bmw

9,337 posts

154 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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E-bmw said:
duncancallum said:
Flare nut from a brake pipe...

You tube it....
Without watching all of youtube I can't find anything that might look like that.
Still waiting to see this one.

Kerniki

Original Poster:

1,960 posts

23 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Well..

The garage found the key for the wheels, managed to get off 2 of them off then the key rounded, a visit to LR resulted in them repairing the key which got another wheel off but the final wheel…

No go, i ordered the appropriate irwin tool of adaptors (from their measurements) but that was way too small (i was on holiday handling from distance) so they then tried to remove it by the aforementioned welding of bolt to stud, nope, snapped right off.

So i’m back now and have the car to tackle and the larger extractor arrives today, so i’m on a mission to get this wheel off, its a bit of a mess in there after their efforts but looks like a bit of a clean up should leave it clean enough for the extraction tool.

Thanks for interest and input, I will update biggrin

EmailAddress

12,258 posts

220 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Day 7 of waiting to find out how a Flare nut from a brake pipe enables one to remove a rounded bolt...

davidexige

491 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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I don't know if it's true or not, but when mine was stuck I was told that tightening the wheel nut either side of the one that you are trying to remove can help reducing the pressure holding the stuck one in place. Nothing to loose by trying it I suppose.

Kerniki

Original Poster:

1,960 posts

23 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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davidexige said:
I don't know if it's true or not, but when mine was stuck I was told that tightening the wheel nut either side of the one that you are trying to remove can help reducing the pressure holding the stuck one in place. Nothing to loose by trying it I suppose.
It is true if corrosion adhesion, over tightened bolt is a bit different, alloy > steel i find corrosion always happens, old steel wheel you dont get the same problem until rust sets in but that takes longer than a set of tyres or pads last normally, plus i think people are more likely to apply some lube or copper grease with steel wheels, thats what i used to do years ago.

Is there a lube you can put on the chamfer and thread of the bolt upon re-install of an alloy wheel?

Kerniki

Original Poster:

1,960 posts

23 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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The new 27mm stud extractor arrived and after digging out some of their weld, it came off easy, just slid the self cutting socket over the top and attached the dewalt ratchet and off it popped, i think the heating and cooling of the welding they did actually loosened it, chuffed.

donkmeister

8,360 posts

102 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Kerniki said:
The new 27mm stud extractor arrived and after digging out some of their weld, it came off easy, just slid the self cutting socket over the top and attached the dewalt ratchet and off it popped, i think the heating and cooling of the welding they did actually loosened it, chuffed.
Excellent. Now offer to train the wheel refurb people in exchange for a discount on the wheel refurb. wink