Rats in loft

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Llandudno

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2,460 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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After 3 weeks of unsuccessfully moving a camera around in the loft to see where the ‘squirrels’ were getting in I bought an endoscope and have been poking around in the void between our ceiling and the loft conversion above.



I’m now drilling holes in other places to try and work out their runs.

We have a soil pipe into the loft for the toilet and it is presumably open at the top. Could they be using that for access?

I’m going into the floor void today to seal up any gaps on the ground floor they might be using, couple of vent covers look dodgy etc.

Problem is the void is pretty inaccessible so traps will be impossible to set without ripping parts of the conversion apart….

I’ve got a Fen trap set outside and keep moving it around with no luck.

Any one else got advice before I call in the pros? Thanks.

Road2Ruin

5,285 posts

218 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Unless they access to food inside the house, then they must be coming and going. You will be amazed what they can go through, almost any gap. Find where they are entering the property and set your traps there. What I found also, was that if you put something like a box type trap or a piece of drain pipe with a trap at the end. They like to hmgo through things like that as they feel sheltered. They are then done in. Try not to potion them. They WILL die in the house and then it's stinksville fir a few months followed by plague on the flies.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Road2Ruin said:
Try not to potion them. They WILL die in the house and then it's stinksville fir a few months followed by plague on the flies.
This, get one of these and they die instantly and you can then dispose of them.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pest-stop-plastic-metal...

K50 DEL

9,269 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Ended up with rats in the ceiling void in my place in Dubai, a couple of dozen glue boards placed at random intervals soon did for them.... you knew where they were as the tails would beat on the ceiling for a while as they died, It was then just a simple case of throw the board out and replace.

The boards are hard to find here for some reason(mice get into my garage here in the UK every so often, hence needing them) but I did eventually find them for sale on eBay.

pokethepope

2,662 posts

190 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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K50 DEL said:
Ended up with rats in the ceiling void in my place in Dubai, a couple of dozen glue boards placed at random intervals soon did for them.... you knew where they were as the tails would beat on the ceiling for a while as they died, It was then just a simple case of throw the board out and replace.

The boards are hard to find here for some reason(mice get into my garage here in the UK every so often, hence needing them) but I did eventually find them for sale on eBay.
Glue traps are cruel and inhumane. They are also now effectively banned in the UK.

Edited by pokethepope on Sunday 19th November 12:01

Biggy Stardust

7,017 posts

46 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I use an ultrasonic repellent for inside the house- works brilliantly. For the outside I have a large group of visiting cats with attitude.

W12GT

3,558 posts

223 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Just looking at that photo have you had the flaky white stuff checked for asbestos??? Looks to me like it could be…

smifffymoto

4,614 posts

207 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Modern poisons dehydrate from the inside so they effectively dry out before they smell and rot(if you are unlucky enough for them to die in your roof).

Just lob the poison block somewhere on their run and bob’s your uncle.

Road2Ruin

5,285 posts

218 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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smifffymoto said:
Modern poisons dehydrate from the inside so they effectively dry out before they smell and rot(if you are unlucky enough for them to die in your roof).

Just lob the poison block somewhere on their run and bob’s your uncle.
Not in my house they didn't. Had two die, one under the floor, one in the lift, both stank. Allegedly they were dehydrating poisons.

Sticks.

8,834 posts

253 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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smifffymoto said:
Modern poisons dehydrate from the inside so they effectively dry out before they smell and rot(if you are unlucky enough for them to die in your roof).

Just lob the poison block somewhere on their run and bob’s your uncle.
Well the council-appointed pest controller didn't use it last year and I'd never have poison again - the smell went on for 10 days and the flies were literally in their hundreds per day. Luckily via the bathroom so opened the window every morning but still awful.

NFT

1,324 posts

24 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I have a home for him, our last spider hunter left now big spiders are turning up, free food and water and a lovely area with plate scrapings to enjoy, esp with Christmas coming up!

P.S, Job area is Walls, loft and brief room visits only though, dangerous cat in main rooms so must be cat wise, or will have him.



Edited by NFT on Sunday 19th November 16:19

BoRED S2upid

19,771 posts

242 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I could lend you a jack Russel will need payment in sausages.

K50 DEL

9,269 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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pokethepope said:
K50 DEL said:
Ended up with rats in the ceiling void in my place in Dubai, a couple of dozen glue boards placed at random intervals soon did for them.... you knew where they were as the tails would beat on the ceiling for a while as they died, It was then just a simple case of throw the board out and replace.

The boards are hard to find here for some reason(mice get into my garage here in the UK every so often, hence needing them) but I did eventually find them for sale on eBay.
Glue traps are cruel and inhumane. They are also now effectively banned in the UK.

Edited by pokethepope on Sunday 19th November 12:01
We're killing rats here so forgive me if I don't care - only good rat is a dead rat as far as I'm concerned and who cares how they die, I've got far more important things to worry about!

Llandudno

Original Poster:

2,460 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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K50 DEL said:
pokethepope said:
K50 DEL said:
Ended up with rats in the ceiling void in my place in Dubai, a couple of dozen glue boards placed at random intervals soon did for them.... you knew where they were as the tails would beat on the ceiling for a while as they died, It was then just a simple case of throw the board out and replace.

The boards are hard to find here for some reason(mice get into my garage here in the UK every so often, hence needing them) but I did eventually find them for sale on eBay.
Glue traps are cruel and inhumane. They are also now effectively banned in the UK.

Edited by pokethepope on Sunday 19th November 12:01
We're killing rats here so forgive me if I don't care - only good rat is a dead rat as far as I'm concerned and who cares how they die, I've got far more important things to worry about!
Same here!
I ordered some glue traps last night. There’s loads of places sell them?

Anyway, the problem remains that I can’t actually access any of the known runs in order to place the traps in the first place.

Llandudno

Original Poster:

2,460 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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W12GT said:
Just looking at that photo have you had the flaky white stuff checked for asbestos??? Looks to me like it could be…
Thanks, your general concern is noted, this is blown in grey cellulose. It’s directly in front of the white led of the endoscope.

cliffords

1,433 posts

25 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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smifffymoto said:
Modern poisons dehydrate from the inside so they effectively dry out before they smell and rot(if you are unlucky enough for them to die in your roof).

Just lob the poison block somewhere on their run and bob’s your uncle.
My experience of this is the opposite. Two dead rats in our loft poisoned, literally kept us out the top of our house untill we could get every bit of insulation taken out , loft cleaned and re insulated . £2k later the smell had gone . It was utterly horrible, gagging and nearly being sick smell.

Edited to add they also piss everywhere so try and act fast. My daughter had some in her loft too and a pest fellow did manage to get them with traps.

Edited by cliffords on Sunday 19th November 17:22


Edited by cliffords on Sunday 19th November 17:24

motco

16,012 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Joey Deacon said:
Road2Ruin said:
Try not to potion them. They WILL die in the house and then it's stinksville fir a few months followed by plague on the flies.
This, get one of these and they die instantly and you can then dispose of them.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pest-stop-plastic-metal...
I second that, I have four of them. One for my shed (an old stable) and three for the roof space. It's a pain checking them daily but having left one in hot weather for 48 hours I am happy to do the rounds. These are not for rats but my neighbour has them for rats in her stables swears by them - and at the rats.

dickymint

24,566 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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motco said:
Joey Deacon said:
Road2Ruin said:
Try not to potion them. They WILL die in the house and then it's stinksville fir a few months followed by plague on the flies.
This, get one of these and they die instantly and you can then dispose of them.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pest-stop-plastic-metal...
I second that, I have four of them. One for my shed (an old stable) and three for the roof space. It's a pain checking them daily but having left one in hot weather for 48 hours I am happy to do the rounds. These are not for rats but my neighbour has them for rats in her stables swears by them - and at the rats.
I'll third it. Bought this 3 years ago.................

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Airmall-Electronic-Batter...

Mains or battery and has an extra LED on an extension cord to make checking easier. The one I really wanted (from America I think) has an app that notifies you when it's been tripped.

W12GT

3,558 posts

223 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Llandudno said:
W12GT said:
Just looking at that photo have you had the flaky white stuff checked for asbestos??? Looks to me like it could be…
Thanks, your general concern is noted, this is blown in grey cellulose. It’s directly in front of the white led of the endoscope.
That’s good news! Good luck with getting rid of the buggers.

B'stard Child

28,510 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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dickymint said:
motco said:
Joey Deacon said:
Road2Ruin said:
Try not to potion them. They WILL die in the house and then it's stinksville fir a few months followed by plague on the flies.
This, get one of these and they die instantly and you can then dispose of them.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/pest-stop-plastic-metal...
I second that, I have four of them. One for my shed (an old stable) and three for the roof space. It's a pain checking them daily but having left one in hot weather for 48 hours I am happy to do the rounds. These are not for rats but my neighbour has them for rats in her stables swears by them - and at the rats.
I'll third it. Bought this 3 years ago.................

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Airmall-Electronic-Batter...

Mains or battery and has an extra LED on an extension cord to make checking easier. The one I really wanted (from America I think) has an app that notifies you when it's been tripped.
Fourth this with a caveat - make sure you install it with the closure flap activated to shut after they go in - or the little fkers will get out as they are being jolted - it caught none until I did that despite the bait being taken