Narrow cloakroom heating dilemma
Discussion
hi folks .. advice please ..
we have a narrow and longish cloakroom downstairs (approx .8m wide x 2m long)
north facing, and although only one exterior wall, it is uninviting most of the year around
we are having house renovations done, so it has been stripped of tiles and the towel rad. that was in there before
in the renovated room we are utilising a narrow sink and a small rad positioned under it
this would mean there is nothing on the wall (towel rad used to be there) which lessens the width restriction upon entering
here's my difficulty
i want a central heating rad so that in the winter the room will be toasty like the rest of the house
however in the milder spring and autumn months, i want to get some background heat into the room to take the edge off the cooler temp specifically in the cloakroom
i dont want to run the boiler just for that room of course, and a dual fuel rad or towel rail would be perfect - but i can't find one dinky enough for the room (i have found a great compact rad but manuf told me it does not support dual fuel..)
Other options considered (and why not favoured):
1) uf elec heating (will raise height of floor to cloakroom only)
2) small elec towel rail (would look oversized for cloakroom given a rad would already be present)
3) conservatory style elec tube heater (looks naff in a fancy cloakroom, no inbuilt thermostat)
4) wall mounted air heater (see #3)
5) infra red mirror (no inbuilt thermostat)
Am I missing an option?
I am planning to control the elec heating via a smart fused spur, to give total control over times of use
Looks at the moment like i will have to ditch the compact rad, and instead go with the slimmest (depth wise) towel rail i can find (that supports dual fuel)...
we have a narrow and longish cloakroom downstairs (approx .8m wide x 2m long)
north facing, and although only one exterior wall, it is uninviting most of the year around
we are having house renovations done, so it has been stripped of tiles and the towel rad. that was in there before
in the renovated room we are utilising a narrow sink and a small rad positioned under it
this would mean there is nothing on the wall (towel rad used to be there) which lessens the width restriction upon entering
here's my difficulty
i want a central heating rad so that in the winter the room will be toasty like the rest of the house
however in the milder spring and autumn months, i want to get some background heat into the room to take the edge off the cooler temp specifically in the cloakroom
i dont want to run the boiler just for that room of course, and a dual fuel rad or towel rail would be perfect - but i can't find one dinky enough for the room (i have found a great compact rad but manuf told me it does not support dual fuel..)
Other options considered (and why not favoured):
1) uf elec heating (will raise height of floor to cloakroom only)
2) small elec towel rail (would look oversized for cloakroom given a rad would already be present)
3) conservatory style elec tube heater (looks naff in a fancy cloakroom, no inbuilt thermostat)
4) wall mounted air heater (see #3)
5) infra red mirror (no inbuilt thermostat)
Am I missing an option?
I am planning to control the elec heating via a smart fused spur, to give total control over times of use
Looks at the moment like i will have to ditch the compact rad, and instead go with the slimmest (depth wise) towel rail i can find (that supports dual fuel)...
We had electric underfloor heating installed earlier this year in our bathroom, mainly to take the chill out of the floor tiles. I was running it for perhaps 30 minutes before heading in each morning before we had the central heating on. The difference was noticeable and I certainly didn't notice a spike in electricity usage.
Worth noting there are two types, primary and secondary heating. Ours is secondary but certainly does the job.
I was rather perplexed by another thread on electric underfloor heating that talked about the astronomical cost. My conclusion was that was for large spaces like a kitchen where it would be running for a long time.
Worth noting there are two types, primary and secondary heating. Ours is secondary but certainly does the job.
I was rather perplexed by another thread on electric underfloor heating that talked about the astronomical cost. My conclusion was that was for large spaces like a kitchen where it would be running for a long time.
Yes i think it would be a neat solution (in lieu of dual fuel for the small rad.) But the blocker is it will raise the floor height, even if by 10mm would mean a lip from the entrance hall into the cloakroom. Unless i do without elec ufh insulation boards and pass most of the heat into the screed...
Gtom said:
you'd have thought so, but the rad needs to fit under the compact sink so really looking at 300-350 height max. If it's larger than this then i may as well go back to having a towel rail - which i'm trying to avoidBack to elec UFH, according to this info (which i guess stands to reason) there is nothing technically preventing installation directly on top of existing screed, it just means it will be slower to heat and less efficient (which might not really be an issue, given it is secondary heating only, just to take the edge off in late spring / early autumn, when full CH not required):
https://www.uheat.co.uk/200w-m-elektra-md-electric...
adccl8z said:
Gtom said:
you'd have thought so, but the rad needs to fit under the compact sink so really looking at 300-350 height max. If it's larger than this then i may as well go back to having a towel rail - which i'm trying to avoidBack to elec UFH, according to this info (which i guess stands to reason) there is nothing technically preventing installation directly on top of existing screed, it just means it will be slower to heat and less efficient (which might not really be an issue, given it is secondary heating only, just to take the edge off in late spring / early autumn, when full CH not required):
https://www.uheat.co.uk/200w-m-elektra-md-electric...
https://www.homesupply.co.uk/Eastbrook-Type-A-Plus...
The radiator design looks like it will take an element and the element should be short enough to fit in the radiator.
There is stuff out there it just takes some finding.
Gtom said:
https://www.bestheating.com/milano-aruba-black-hor...
https://www.homesupply.co.uk/Eastbrook-Type-A-Plus...
The radiator design looks like it will take an element and the element should be short enough to fit in the radiator.
There is stuff out there it just takes some finding.
Thanks for researching https://www.homesupply.co.uk/Eastbrook-Type-A-Plus...
The radiator design looks like it will take an element and the element should be short enough to fit in the radiator.
There is stuff out there it just takes some finding.
Ive seen this one before, it was one of my first finds. Ruled out as nearly 1.8m long unfortunately, imho would look ungainly running nearly the entire length of the cloakroom (mind your ankles) but maybe i should reconsider it. Cheers
James6112 said:
2)
& bin the Central Heating Rad
Works in our bathrooms!
I do wonder why you a small cloakroom to be toasty hot - most people don't spend that long in there. I'd certainly be tempted by a small electric towel rail, it won't need that much heat to maintain an acceptable temperature & bin the Central Heating Rad
Works in our bathrooms!
skwdenyer said:
Install skirting hot water heating, and then a separate electric towel rail?
Ooh, that's a interesting option. I only just came across electric heated skirting (not best suited for bathrooms though).Will need to check btu of the skirting solution, approx 1300 required
And an uber compact electric only rad. (say 300*500)
Thanks so far chaps!
Gtom said:
https://www.bestheating.com/milano-aruba-black-hor...
https://www.homesupply.co.uk/Eastbrook-Type-A-Plus...
The radiator design looks like it will take an element and the element should be short enough to fit in the radiator.
There is stuff out there it just takes some finding.
They do a 236*1400https://www.homesupply.co.uk/Eastbrook-Type-A-Plus...
The radiator design looks like it will take an element and the element should be short enough to fit in the radiator.
There is stuff out there it just takes some finding.
Interesting...
Though I'll need to check it is dual fuel compatible
Have you considered an electric tube heater? We have a 300w one in our airing cupboard, controlled by a timer. They can plug in to a wall socket, so can be removed easily later on of required. Just an example below.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dimplex-ecot1ft-wall-mo...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dimplex-ecot1ft-wall-mo...
Road2Ruin said:
Have you considered an electric tube heater? We have a 300w one in our airing cupboard, controlled by a timer. They can plug in to a wall socket, so can be removed easily later on of required. Just an example below.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dimplex-ecot1ft-wall-mo...
I have. It would meet the heating requirements and would be cheapest to implement. However I'd need to find a way to hide it from.sight, it wont look too good alongside some fancy bathroomwares. Are.designer models available https://www.screwfix.com/p/dimplex-ecot1ft-wall-mo...
Less ugly then a tube heater and quite slim, programmable with thermostat
https://www.screwfix.com/p/glen-2150tie7-freestand...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/glen-2150tie7-freestand...
adccl8z said:
Road2Ruin said:
Have you considered an electric tube heater? We have a 300w one in our airing cupboard, controlled by a timer. They can plug in to a wall socket, so can be removed easily later on of required. Just an example below.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dimplex-ecot1ft-wall-mo...
I have. It would meet the heating requirements and would be cheapest to implement. However I'd need to find a way to hide it from.sight, it wont look too good alongside some fancy bathroomwares. Are.designer models available https://www.screwfix.com/p/dimplex-ecot1ft-wall-mo...
Option 6
UFH pad to cold external wall, screed and tile over.
https://www.heatmat.co.uk/under-floor-heating/wall...
UFH pad to cold external wall, screed and tile over.
https://www.heatmat.co.uk/under-floor-heating/wall...
Edited by Regbuser on Tuesday 21st November 09:44
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