What "cheap" V8s are less likely to be ruinous to run?

What "cheap" V8s are less likely to be ruinous to run?

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blueovercream

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277 posts

93 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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A bit of musing really, I'm probably not serious about this (yet) but I've just read an article on The Intercooler in which the writer bought a 2005 BMW 650 for £6k.

This sounded to me like a bit of a gamble but is it actually? Are there other similar cars that are less likely to throw up massive bills?

For clarity I'm not talking about fuel cost which is obviously going to be high regardless.

Truckosaurus

11,471 posts

286 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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The Vauxhall Monaro and VXR8 with the simple LS engines must be at the top of the tree.

The Mercedes 5.5 V8 is meant to be bulletproof.

Lexus, of course, although V8 versions seem to be entering the 'modern classic' realm so some optimistic prices are being asked.

Hippea

1,861 posts

71 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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I’m no expert but have heard the Jaguar XK (x150) is pretty reliable

GT9

6,901 posts

174 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Factor in that tyres can become a significant expense if you go for something like a C63 that eats through them at an alarming rate.
A higher revving smaller capacity engine might be a better longer term proposition.
I'm assuming you don't want a turbocharged engine?

RDMcG

19,248 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Was talking to my neighbour who bought my 2008 Cayenne V8 with 305,000 km on it last year .i pretty much gave it to her - it now has 340000 on it so a lot of trouble free motoring overall.

BUG4LIFE

2,034 posts

220 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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My Jaguar S-Type R has behaved itself this year, not costing me a bean. I did have a big bill last year, sorting sill corrosion etc but in my three years of ownership, it hasn’t been ruinous…I say all this with my fingers crossed!

I think STR’s are great value for money. And, mine is for sale smile


Scootersp

3,219 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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blueovercream said:
A bit of musing really, I'm probably not serious about this (yet) but I've just read an article on The Intercooler in which the writer bought a 2005 BMW 650 for £6k.

This sounded to me like a bit of a gamble but is it actually? Are there other similar cars that are less likely to throw up massive bills?

For clarity I'm not talking about fuel cost which is obviously going to be high regardless.
The beauty of the older cars is the gamble can at least be a largely measured one. I mean that era 6 series including the M6 has pretty much every common issue (and there are a fair few!) very well documented, including 'how to' fixes and often tools/parts made to fix the issues easier/more cheaply.

In many ways buying a 5 year old M6 was more of a gamble than a 15 year old one? At 3 years there were loads of unknowns, now the old cars have had lots of the fixes done.

Most V8's are rare the 6 series are relatively plentiful, and I think part of the attraction for the discerning buyer is a 120K car with evidence of all/most of the common issues done can't command much of a price premium over the 90K mile basket case that will soon be leaking from all orifices!? So make a good choice and I don't think it's so much of a gamble?

Down the bottom of the depreciation curve it's nearly always the same, buyers are generally looking for low purchase prices over pretty much anything and not so willing to pay a grand or two more for a sorted one, but also one that's in the more expensive range isn't necessarily a better buy, truly a major wheat from the chaff exercise is needed as one major issue you can't DIY can wipe out all the 'savings' on a lower purchase price.

Essentially what I'm saying is with research, time and effort you can minimise the gamble aspect.

Scootersp

3,219 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
Lexus, of course, although V8 versions seem to be entering the 'modern classic' realm so some optimistic prices are being asked.
A few GS430's are around that are still cheap (if you ignore the 8K mile one up at £17,950 !? (I wonder what this does eventually go for and to who?), SC430 used to be but seem to have drifted into your observed category.


Edited by Scootersp on Tuesday 21st November 14:53

sinbaddio

2,384 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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RDMcG said:
Was talking to my neighbour who bought my 2008 Cayenne V8 with 305,000 km on it last year .i pretty much gave it to her - it now has 340000 on it so a lot of trouble free motoring overall.
That's good to know. I bought a 2005 Cayenne Turbo last week (under £5k), and that only has 112,000 miles on it so plenty left to give yet!

ingenieur

4,097 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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There's a YouTube of the 1986 Motorshow at Birmingham. The BMW 750i was getting first viewings with the BMW v12. BMW stated at the time that it was designed to give a long service life with just changing of fluids. How much of this was marketing BS and how much was true you can only guess... but at least the intention was there that the engine was going to be reliable and easy to look after.

CABC

5,619 posts

103 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Rover engined TVRs.
at this point their simplicity is a virtue. rust issues are a known quality too. suspect ancillaries on a BMW to be more costly over time.

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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My old W211 E500 has been pretty good over the last 6 years. A couple of big spends, I ditched the airmatic suspension soon after purchase whihch was a £1500 job doing it DIY and I wished I hadn't, other than that it's had rear subframe bushes, some ABS sensors, couple of sets of front discs and pads, tyres, battery etc. The drivetrain has been flawless. It's 'only' 306BHP and the oldest Merc 5 speed box but that has been plenty. Tyre wear is minimal when driven half sensibly. It's starting to suffer with rust now so I'll soon need to decide what to do. Biggest ongoing cost is fuel. 90 quid does 300 miles. Nothing terrible for a 21 year old car

AdeOlly

14 posts

53 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Hippea said:
I’m no expert but have heard the Jaguar XK (x150) is pretty reliable
Yes, those with the 4.2 V8 are fairly bullet proof. The early 5.0 V8s can have timing chain guide issues that is expensive to sort; those after about 2012 (ish) apparently have modified setup and don't suffer. I had an 4.2 XK for three years and only issue was a failed radiator fan motor; the engine itself never missed a beat. That car was better built than my newer replacement SL 350.

PositronicRay

27,125 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Take a look at Merc CLKs, a few bargains to be had?

Pebbles167

3,524 posts

154 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Toyota Crown Majesta import? I've spoke to a few people with these who claim with routine servicing they are reliable. Most of the money the owners spend tends to be on mods.

I've seen them selling for £7k.

LeeM135i

596 posts

56 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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In general the Mercedes 6.2L C63 cars have been pretty solid. The post 2013 facelift cars solved a lot of the niggles from the early cars like lifters and headbolts. There are quite a few around with 100k+ miles.

The 4.0 C63's are also proving reliable so far with the main issue being electric locking diffs in the 'S' cars failing after multiple launches.

Like most cars if they are looked after they and treated with a bit of mechanical sympathy they last well.

Another vote for the Vauxhall Monaro with the LS engine, super basic, super simple, super reliable.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Range Rover?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296025023792

I’ve currently got one and like it very much. Likes a drink though.

ZX10R NIN

27,756 posts

127 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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The 5.0/5.5N/A from Mercedes are nigh on bulletproof as are the 4.7TT/5.5K/6.2n/a & the 5.5TT from Mercedes are pretty much the same but have higher running costs than the former.

culpz

4,892 posts

114 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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A non-R S-Type 4.2 can be had pretty cheap. I know the engines on those are strong but I think rust can be the killer and the gearbox can be a weak point.
LS400/430?

CABC

5,619 posts

103 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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culpz said:
LS400/430?
or an SC430 so you can hear the engine. looks are challenging to many.