Man caves and planning permission

Man caves and planning permission

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mattvanders

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236 posts

27 months

Tuesday 27th February
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I’m looking into getting a man cave/outbuilding installed at the end of the garden so have been looking into the planning permission side of this at the same time. I’m looking at building something just smaller than 30m2 and 2.5m high to get around planning permission but then I also saw the clause of requiring to be at least 1m from all fence boundaries or be made of non combustible material. I’m looking at placing the building 0.5m from one of the neighbours fence so my question is what counts as non combustible materials? I mean does it refer to steel sheet cladded or just non wood materials? If anyone has had experience of this or advice that would be very helpful

smokey mow

928 posts

201 months

Tuesday 27th February
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to begin you need to understand the difference between planning permission and building regulations as you appear to be confusing the two and both may apply.

Building control aren’t concerned with height (that’s planning) but to be exempt from build regulations it must be either less than 15m2 floor area or alternatively less than 30m2 and substantially built from non-combustible materials.

No further definition is given for the above but non-combustible is generally considered to be brick or block.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Wednesday 28th February
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The non-combustible materials bit, specifically, is Building Regulations rather than Planning, but the other thing to bear in mind in both cases is that these rules don't necessarily mean that you can't do something, just that you need to seek permission for it.

I've done many dozens of timber structures on boundaries, with Building Regulations approval. Worst case is usually that you need Class '0' external surface spread of flame along with 30 minutes fire integrity from both sides (internally and externally) of the structure.

The former usually requires factory treated timber cladding (I've yet to come across a treatment that can be applied on site that is suitable for external use - most leach out over time and need re-application, so won't be accepted by Building Control). Or you can use cementitious cladding like Cedral or Hardieplank.

The latter, depending on the precise design of the structure and how picky the Buidling Control Inspector is, may demand fire-resistant boards on both sides of the timber cladding panels. So, working from the outside in, you'd have factory treated timber cladding, treated battens, exterior quality fire board (eg. 12mm. Magply), timber stud supporting framework, then another layer of fireboard on the inside face (Magply or fireline - this one doesn't necessarily have to be exterior quality).

If you want insulation (which you will in a man-cave) the construction becomes more complicated, with VCL, breather membrane and potentially counterbattening on the cladding.

All of this adds considerably to the cost of course.

FilH

635 posts

145 months

Wednesday 28th February
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I could never find a 100% answer on this.

But both my building are over 15m ,below 30m. I went with Cedral cladding. 1. To comply as best as I could, 2. To outlast wood and 3. To reduce and need for maintenance, especially as access is very limited.