Stamp Duty- Land Transaction Tax Letter 5 years after sale

[Responder.First]

So female friend of mine owns a house with her ex partner who basically doesn't have a fixed address apparently as his new Partner and him are on and off (toxic relationship)and she claims she lives alone and benefits etc etc.

Reason my friend is concerned is they bought their house cash over 5 years ago paid Stamp then. They have 2/3 (Her) 1/3 (Him) ownership share agreement with her solicitor.

She has suddenly out the blue had a letter from HMRC for him and he won't tell her how much he earns and doesn't consistently pay child maintenance for his child and she is too nice to call CMS.


The letter claims he owes £1010 Land Transaction Tax, but he is the Only Person name Purchaser (1) Mr Smith Purchaser (2) None and she is not named in the document so she is very concerned!

Anyone know why he would have this letter when no other post comes to her house for him?

Or she thinks its s fake letter but looks legit having seen it.

Could he have taken a mortgage out as he is complaining she won't buy him out as she providing for her children and he doesn't.

Edited by Responder.First on Monday 8th April 18:23

Edited by Responder.First on Monday 8th April 18:30

[FMOB]

If she gets a copy of the deeds from land registry for £3 she will find out if there is any secured lending on the property.

Will clear up one unknown at least.

[martinbiz]

Responder.First said:

So female friend of mine owns a house with her ex partner who basically doesn't have a fixed address apparently as his new Partner and him are on and off (toxic relationship)and she claims she lives alone and benefits etc etc.

Reason my friend is concerned is they bought their house cash over 5 years ago paid Stamp then. They have 2/3 (Her) 1/3 (Him) ownership share agreement with her solicitor.

She has suddenly out the blue had a letter from HMRC for him and he won't tell her how much he earns and doesn't consistently pay child maintenance for his child and she is too nice to call CMS.


The letter claims he owes £1010 Land Transaction Tax, but he is the Owner and she is not named in the document so she is very concerned.

Anyone know why he would have this letter when no other post comes to her house for him?

Or she thinks its s fake letter but looks legit having seen it.

Could he have taken a mortgage out as he is complaining she won't buy him out as she providing for her children and he doesn't.

If she has recieved a letter to her address but addressed to him why has she opened it or even gettimg involved.Foxrward it on if she has an address, if not return it "no longer at this address"

[Responder.First]

martinbiz said:

If she has recieved a letter to her address but addressed to him why has she opened it or even gettimg involved.Foxrward it on if she has an address, if not return it "no longer at this address"

She opened it by accident as she is the only person who had mail at the house for years.

[Responder.First]

FMOB said:

If she gets a copy of the deeds from land registry for £3 she will find out if there is any secured lending on the property.

Will clear up one unknown at least.

Uploaded a copy might go down the LR route, thanks.

[Caddyshack]

I wonder if the tax is the result of him transferring all to him? That would sound to be fraud, if the case.

[Responder.First]

Caddyshack said:

I wonder if the tax is the result of him transferring all to him? That would sound to be fraud, if the case.

Land registry check this evening shows both names and the record in is 2022, they bought in 2018.

Nothing new since 01/22.

[Caddyshack]

Responder.First said:

Land registry check this evening shows both names and the record in is 2022, they bought in 2018.

Nothing new since 01/22.

Maybe the conveyancer made an error which has been calculated then? I would go back to the original conveyancer and ask them to comment.

[Responder.First]

Caddyshack said:

Maybe the conveyancer made an error which has been calculated then? I would go back to the original conveyancer and ask them to comment.

Why when they are NOT both named, she is the first purchaser on LR would it only be to him?

She had the lions share of the cash it was paid for from a flat sale in London, no mortgage.

Doesn't state its late but there is interest applied, which is weird, no other letters have come.

Edited by Responder.First on Monday 8th April 20:39

[borrowdale]

Create an account on the Land Registry Alerts service and register an alert against the property, that will show you if there are any pending changes to the registration. As I understand it, there can be a multi month delay between a change taking place and it being reflected in the actual documents.

[Caddyshack]

Responder.First said:

Caddyshack said:

Maybe the conveyancer made an error which has been calculated then? I would go back to the original conveyancer and ask them to comment.

Why when they are NOT both named, she is the first purchaser on LR would it only be to him?

She had the lions share of the cash it was paid for from a flat sale in London, no mortgage.

Doesn't state its late but there is interest applied, which is weird, no other letters have come.

Edited by Responder.First on Monday 8th April 20:39

Yes, that does sound quite odd but I guess it depends on what error may have happened. You would think there should have been an explanation. I think the conveyancer from that time needs to make some enquiries.

[MustangGT]

martinbiz said:

If she has recieved a letter to her address but addressed to him why has she opened it or even gettimg involved.Foxrward it on if she has an address, if not return it "no longer at this address"

Why is this an issue? The postal service have completed their job of delivery to the address, therefore, opening it cannot be interfering with the mail during the course of delivery.

[Pro Bono]

There's no point in asking on here. The only sensible way of finding out what's going on is to ask the conveyancer that dealt with the original purchase.

But it would be interesting to hear their explanation.

[Responder.First]

Pro Bono said:

There's no point in asking on here. The only sensible way of finding out what's going on is to ask the conveyancer that dealt with the original purchase.

But it would be interesting to hear their explanation.

Thanks, I have only bought one house and it was paid through the solicitor.


My issue is she is not named which is odd the relationship with the named party is very tenuous and he is effectively homeless having been in a toxic relationship which as it happens appears to blown up this sunday! So this could not come at a worst time, when he is homeless his mad ex is now chasing him for money for the baby and one on the way.

I have advised her to contact the conveyancer, she is concerned its a fraudulent letter scam, as she is not named but he has asked for him to be bought out, which as he pays no maintenance she can't afford, he now has a CMS claim from his more recent GF who he has a 2 year old and is pregnant with another. They both met while working in civilian roles for a police force, he is admin she was sacked for having a private business interest she did not disclose and she apparently has compromising images of him and her at police HQ and is threatening to release them as well! Its a massive mess!


Is it possible its a scam letter?

Edited by Responder.First on Wednesday 10th April 11:14

Edited by Responder.First on Wednesday 10th April 11:19

[Caddyshack]

I doubt it is a scam in terms of a person trying to steal.

It could be something fraudulent though and I suspect one of the parties has tried to pull a fast one or he / the conveyancer messed something up in the past.


Some people just get themselves in to a complete mess and this little group seem to be doing just that and not learning from each experience.


We know someone locally who was in a happy, married relationship and has 2 kids, he mum died and she just went off the rails, she has been fighting in a pub, got caught having sex out the back of the same pub with another married man, The pub barred her for taking coke in the pub. She is now pregnant from someone on the local football team (it seems a bit of a local joke that quite a few of the team have been there now) and they are apparently now in arrears on the mortgage as neither as they are behind with the tax man.... - it is just a car crash. They live in a lovely big house in a nice area and now it is all going down the pan.

[Responder.First]

Caddyshack said:

I doubt it is a scam in terms of a person trying to steal.

It could be something fraudulent though and I suspect one of the parties has tried to pull a fast one or he / the conveyancer messed something up in the past.

Could he have triggered this, by trying something? Do we think he might have transferred the ownership to solely him? Its only a part ownership property as well.

That was her other concern, that he has been trying to get money, he spent all the cash out the joint account prior to them splitting up, like paying for a car from it and then withdrawing £10k and claiming that was also for his car.

He has been moaning about the house and wanting to be bought out, could he have claimed the monies back or something?

It says return (Land Tax Return) has he taken the money from the solicitor?

Edited by Responder.First on Wednesday 10th April 12:43

Edited by Responder.First on Wednesday 10th April 15:34

[Caddyshack]

Responder.First said:

Caddyshack said:

I doubt it is a scam in terms of a person trying to steal.

It could be something fraudulent though and I suspect one of the parties has tried to pull a fast one or he / the conveyancer messed something up in the past.

Could he have triggered this, by trying something? Do we think he might have transferred the ownership to solely him? Its only a part ownership property as well.

That was her other concern, that he has been trying to get money, he spent all the cash out the joint account prior to them splitting up, like paying for a car from it and then withdrawing £10k and claiming that was also for his car.

He has been moaning about the house and wanting to be bought out, could he have claimed the monies back or something?

It says return (Land Tax Return) has he taken the money from the solicitor?

Edited by Responder.First on Wednesday 10th April 12:43

Edited by Responder.First on Wednesday 10th April 15:34

If it is a shared ownership / part buy / part rent property then it could very easily just be a result of a conveyancer mistake.

I think you would need to go back through the conveyancing as it is just clutching at straws without that...just be alert that their could be foul play at work but probably just a mess up.

[Responder.First]

Caddyshack said:

If it is a shared ownership / part buy / part rent property then it could very easily just be a result of a conveyancer mistake.

I think you would need to go back through the conveyancing as it is just clutching at straws without that...just be alert that their could be foul play at work but probably just a mess up.

Sale went through late August 2018, seems a long time for an error and no 14 day notice has been received at the address, surely that should have come first.

I have advised her to contact the solicitors who hold the deeds asap and she is going to look up the conveyancer!

She is working overtime today and tomorrow but she is going to get in contact.

As you can imagine despite working for the Police he is a very unsavoury person with a very dark hobbies so she is very concerned as to what he might have done. He is banned from some police premises due to his previous conduct, but they don't sack him!