RE: Hot hatches for £20k | Six of the Best

RE: Hot hatches for £20k | Six of the Best

Saturday 25th May

Hot hatches for £20k | Six of the Best

New hot hatches are an endangered species. Thank goodness for brilliant old ones...


Peugeot 308 GTI, 2020, 15k, £18,734

The 308 GTI always felt like a car that deserved more recognition than it ever received. Here was a properly light (c. 1,300kg), front-wheel drive hot hatch, offered exclusively with an aggressively turbocharged 1.6 turbo and six-speed manual gearbox. There was a tonne of serious hardware to support 270hp in the flagship version (250hp otherwise), including a Torsen diff, Alcon brakes and properly sorted passive suspension. There was five-door practicality, smart yet subtle styling, and being light ensured both agility and efficiency. But the 308 never really succeeded over here, selling in small numbers. That does at least make for an absolute bargain secondhand: this 2020 ‘260’ model (the two-model line-up was dropped in 2017, then the 270 became a 260 because of emissions in 2018) must be one of the last made. After just 15,000 miles, it’s little more than £18k. The bargain of the group, and with far more than just good value in its favour.

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Ford Focus ST, 2019, 33k, £19,995

Even when the Ford Focus ST could call on more rivals, it was a hugely impressive hot hatch. Not one that was immediately approachable thanks to hyperactive steering and mismatched drive modes (seemingly too aggressive, or not aggressive enough), but shot through with that modern fast Ford quality that’s produced so many greats. The chassis was brilliant, willing to play fast and neat or a little looser as required; the burly, big hearted 2.3 Ecoboost was the perfect partner, a glut of extra torque over rivals (310lb ft) ensuring it always felt properly punchy. Yet, crucially, not to the extent that it threatened to overwhelm the car. The ST was (and remains, for a little while at least) a characterful hot hatch in the best way, where that personality hasn’t come at the expense of ability. Get an Edition or Track Pack if possible, because they’re even better, but expect many happy miles motoring behind the wheel of a standard car like this, too.

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BMW M140i, 2017, 39k, £19,886

The hot rod hatch that’s becoming cooler by the month, the BMW M135i (and the later M140i, as this is), was always a very easy car to rub along with. Oh sure, things could go a bit awry with an open diff and not-quite-perfect suspension - plus it was far from the most practical hatch around - but a great big turbo six in a small BMW for not very much money ensured the M Performance models a lot of fans during seven years on sale. The later 40is, powered by the B58 engine that’s still in use elsewhere (and is very tuneable), are abundant: choose from five-door, three-door, manual, auto and all the colours. Popularity new means used buyers can be very particular, and our budget means getting one of the best: this Estoril Blue five-door auto has accrued fewer than 40,000 miles, the Harmon/Kardon upgrade and looks fresh inside and out. Big boots are overrated, anyway - big engines aren’t. 

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SEAT Leon Cupra, 2020, 33k, £19,999

The wild child Cupra only looks more interesting now its maker has decided to focus on EVs. Its chassis wasn’t as sorted as a Type R’s, and the overall package not quite as polished as the Golf GTI with which it shared a lot, but the fast Leons were flippin' fast - they’re sometimes used as unmarked police cars, in fact - smartly styled and good fun in a vaguely old school way. Wheels would spin, axles would tramp and revs would flare as the front tyres inevitably lost their battle with anything up to 300hp. But with more measured inputs the Cupra made a decent fist of things - so long as you remembered to put good tyres on it. This is one of the last (note the copper badges that showed where the brand was heading) and super subtle in black. All the better for catching everyone else unawares.

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Hyundai i30 N, 2019, 49k, £20,495

If you've ever wondered how well-regarded Hyundai is right now, just look at the strength of i30 N residuals. Here’s a car that launched in 2017 at significantly less than £30k that’s still very hard to find at less than £20,000. Some of that is down to the bizarre vicissitudes of the used car market over the past few years, but even in a group comprised of its close rivals the Hyundai has performed well. Shouldn’t be a surprise, really; from a standing start, N created a hot hatch hero, the i30 brimming with attitude, enthusiasm and purpose. It never felt better than being driven hard, just like all the great hot hatches. The fuel economy was nothing to write home about and the N mode was crazy stiff, but no hot hatch is perfect. Expect a whole lot of fun for many more years yet. Be nice if this depreciation curve continued, too…

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Renaultsport Megane Trophy, 2014, 48k, PH Auction

Hopes are high for the future of the French hot hatch, given what Alpine has divulged so far about the A290. But if it’s only the back catalogue that’s of interest, then the old Renaults don't come much greater than the Megane 275 Trophy, the car that took lots of the Trophy-R’s ‘ring record hardware and combined it with a few everyday luxuries. Like seats. The limited edition was an instant hit over in the UK, and has remained highly prized ever since. Vibrant in Liquid Yellow, this PH Auctions car has fewer than 50,000 miles and benefits from an Akrpaovic exhaust, uprated Brembo brakes and more than 300hp. Owned and loved by the current owner since 2021, it’s expected to fetch between £18,000 and £20,000. Which doesn’t sound crazy for one of the all-time hot hatch legends.

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Author
Discussion

pacdes

Original Poster:

524 posts

163 months

Saturday 25th May
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Not one 0-60 time... If journalists can't even be bothered why should the buying public.

Hippea

1,919 posts

71 months

Saturday 25th May
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No mk7.5 Golf GTi?

leef44

4,568 posts

155 months

Saturday 25th May
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I do really like the Ford. The interior controls are self explanatory and logically laid out. I always have a soft spot for fast ford lairiness.

Second choice would be the refined efficient competent BMW. Again excellent interior layout and immense engine in the group.

It's a different era now where 5 to 10 year old cars hold more than 50% their value in the second hand market.

daqinggregg

1,819 posts

131 months

Saturday 25th May
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Megane for me, while I’m sure the others are very capable, they just look like warmed up shopping cars.

With 3 doors, the Megane looks like a full fat hot hatch.

Xenoous

1,134 posts

60 months

Saturday 25th May
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Ford for me, and I own an RS265.

911Spanker

1,341 posts

18 months

Saturday 25th May
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Mégane or the BMW with a Birds kit.

I can't understand how someone can own a standard 140i.

wistec1

333 posts

43 months

Saturday 25th May
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Has to be the BMW then it would have the AC Schnitzer treatment.

Baddie

654 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th May
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M140 for me, after a passenger ride on track in an M135i. He was sliding it, big loads in the corners, rapid and tuneful down the straights, and stood up to commercial track abuse.

Jonstar

880 posts

193 months

Saturday 25th May
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pacdes said:
Not one 0-60 time... If journalists can't even be bothered why should the buying public.
Stop moaning, no one cares.

Megane for me, proper hot hatch that.

pb8g09

2,445 posts

71 months

Saturday 25th May
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I know it’s a tee-up for the Megane auction listing, but these all feel like they’re a few grand too much. There are people on the M140i forum on Facebook selling these for much less.

As an owner of an M235i, I’d have the 140i on this list. Then probably the Ford or i30N.

But I don’t really lust after any of these for £20k.

200Plus Club

10,856 posts

280 months

Saturday 25th May
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pb8g09 said:
I know it’s a tee-up for the Megane auction listing, but these all feel like they’re a few grand too much. There are people on the M140i forum on Facebook selling these for much less.

As an owner of an M235i, I’d have the 140i on this list. Then probably the Ford or i30N.

But I don’t really lust after any of these for £20k.
Agreed on your comment about valuation and only the megane looks vaguely hot hatch/sporty.

GreatScott2016

1,264 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th May
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200Plus Club said:
pb8g09 said:
I know it’s a tee-up for the Megane auction listing, but these all feel like they’re a few grand too much. There are people on the M140i forum on Facebook selling these for much less.

As an owner of an M235i, I’d have the 140i on this list. Then probably the Ford or i30N.

But I don’t really lust after any of these for £20k.
Agreed on your comment about valuation and only the megane looks vaguely hot hatch/sporty.
My thoughts exactly too!

fantheman80

1,488 posts

51 months

Saturday 25th May
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pacdes said:
Not one 0-60 time... If journalists can't even be bothered why should the buying public.
I have no problem with them omitting as I think most on here would know that a front drive hot hatch would be in the 6s range no matter what the manufacturers try to say as tricky to get off the line but the bmw would monster them all in a straight line at least

I think that shot of the ford does it no favours, looks very bland

Surprised no FK2 civic maybe there a bit more, off to check

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16750426


Edited by fantheman80 on Saturday 25th May 07:19

Vsix and Vtec

715 posts

20 months

Saturday 25th May
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Well, that stole the show didn't it? Type R every time out of that lineup. Begers belief that it was left out in the first place.

MB140

4,145 posts

105 months

Saturday 25th May
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Baddie said:
M140 for me, after a passenger ride on track in an M135i. He was sliding it, big loads in the corners, rapid and tuneful down the straights, and stood up to commercial track abuse.
I’ve got a 2016 m135i, 80,000 since new. Never let me down once.

Returns 38mpg on a motorway run.

Is perfect up to 7/10ths then the open diff and slightly under damped rear becomes a problem. Of course if your doing 8/10ths on plus on public roads your normally travelling at a rapid rate on knots.

Never felt the need to mod mine. It’s perfect for my needs. I’m keep looking at replacing it. But what with.

1) New Yaris Gr, can’t get one and at 45k more than I want to spend.

2) Megan trophy 300. Interior is way to cheap feeling

3) Civic type R, only manual, wife can’t drive manual as she has a bad back.

4) Golf gti clubsport, never been a fan of the golf interior, haven’t driven one though.

5))m140i, too similar to the 135i, especially as mine is the last of the m135i.

6) cupra, not a big fan of the interiors.

So basically stick with what I have.

itcaptainslow

3,726 posts

138 months

Saturday 25th May
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Not sure I’d agree with the BMW being ‘cool’; it seems to have a bit of an image problem for me.

Around these parts it seems the choice of those with a cloud of vape smoke emanating from the driver’s window, said window & others being illegally tinted whilst being horrendously driven in urban areas sporting an anti social remap.

Doesn’t stop them being tempting value for money, mind - I’d certainly have one over a Golf R, for instance.

That Megane looks a proper bit of kit.

Truckosaurus

11,542 posts

286 months

Saturday 25th May
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I notice the '270' version of the 308 are quite good value, with people being put off by the shocking costs of the brake parts, some of the earlier 250s with normal brakes are more expensive.

rossub

4,572 posts

192 months

Saturday 25th May
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daqinggregg said:
Megane for me, while I’m sure the others are very capable, they just look like warmed up shopping cars.

With 3 doors, the Megane looks like a full fat hot hatch.
Agree, the first two just look like anonymous white blobs.

mooseracer

1,962 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th May
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911Spanker said:
BMW with a Birds kit
You called? smile

Andy86GT

367 posts

67 months

Saturday 25th May
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Arguably the Megan isn't a 'hot hatch' as it's a dedicated coupe body.
I agree though, the best of these options