Has my partner killed it?
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Several years ago following the death of her father my partner was given a rose by her best friend. For the first few years it flowered and appeared to thrive.
She decided that hard pruning was better than getting a larger pot and since then it has been moribund with a few tiny leaves and not much else.
I've noticed these markings on the stems, is it beyond saving?
Obviously due to the intense sentimental value we would like to resurrect it if possible.
SD.
She decided that hard pruning was better than getting a larger pot and since then it has been moribund with a few tiny leaves and not much else.
I've noticed these markings on the stems, is it beyond saving?
Obviously due to the intense sentimental value we would like to resurrect it if possible.
SD.
I don’t get Roses.
Essentially they are brambles, yet they seem awfully difficult to grow well. My wife is the gardener here & she has a policy of if in doubt hack it back, if it thrives then it stays.
Not very scientific but it’s surprising how many plant’s actually respond well to it.
Almost like a hard re-set.
Once you’ve tried TLC and are considering binning it I’d try a hard prune & some neglect.
You never know.
Essentially they are brambles, yet they seem awfully difficult to grow well. My wife is the gardener here & she has a policy of if in doubt hack it back, if it thrives then it stays.
Not very scientific but it’s surprising how many plant’s actually respond well to it.
Almost like a hard re-set.
Once you’ve tried TLC and are considering binning it I’d try a hard prune & some neglect.
You never know.
Stick Legs said:
I don’t get Roses.
Essentially they are brambles, yet they seem awfully difficult to grow well. My wife is the gardener here & she has a policy of if in doubt hack it back, if it thrives then it stays.
Not very scientific but it’s surprising how many plant’s actually respond well to it.
Almost like a hard re-set.
Once you’ve tried TLC and are considering binning it I’d try a hard prune & some neglect.
You never know.
It has huge sentimental value it seems so I'll say again - take cuttings now.Essentially they are brambles, yet they seem awfully difficult to grow well. My wife is the gardener here & she has a policy of if in doubt hack it back, if it thrives then it stays.
Not very scientific but it’s surprising how many plant’s actually respond well to it.
Almost like a hard re-set.
Once you’ve tried TLC and are considering binning it I’d try a hard prune & some neglect.
You never know.
Do you know what rose it is?
They are hungry plants. Strongly suspect it’s exhausted all the nutrition in the soil and is struggling. Repot into next pot up trimming the roots a bit in the process. Use a John innes loan based compost and mix in some well rotted manure. Be ready to do this every other year or two in my experience.
Also roses want generally as big a pot as you can manage.
More info on the David Austin website.
Yes take cuttings but it may well be grafted so possibility it will grow differently if you do as it may behave differently on its own rootstock
They are hungry plants. Strongly suspect it’s exhausted all the nutrition in the soil and is struggling. Repot into next pot up trimming the roots a bit in the process. Use a John innes loan based compost and mix in some well rotted manure. Be ready to do this every other year or two in my experience.
Also roses want generally as big a pot as you can manage.
More info on the David Austin website.
Yes take cuttings but it may well be grafted so possibility it will grow differently if you do as it may behave differently on its own rootstock
I'm no gardening expert but I would suggest if possible to put it into the ground properly instead of a pot.
I have a rose in my front garden that my parents bought for me when I lost a child in 2016, I cut a hole into the centre of the lawn and planted it and other than cutting it back once a year and deadheading it when it flowers in the warmer months it needs very little maintenance and keeps going
I have a rose in my front garden that my parents bought for me when I lost a child in 2016, I cut a hole into the centre of the lawn and planted it and other than cutting it back once a year and deadheading it when it flowers in the warmer months it needs very little maintenance and keeps going
Accoring to this: http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/Portals/0/G...
- it's rose canker.
'Cankers may be caused by many different organisms, including Botrytis blight mentioned earlier. A canker may appear as a localized lesion on a stem (e.g., Coniothyrium, brand canker, top image) or as a larger discolored or distorted area (e.g., Leptosphaeria, middle image). In other cases, cankers can appear similar to normal tissue, but show up as flat patches on branches. They commonly enlarge to girdle stems, killing the water-conducting tissues and causing the death of upper branches or terminal growth. This form of dieback can also be caused by root rot fungal pathogens that have invaded the roots or the crown of the plant at the soil line.
Certain cankers cause symptoms late in the season that include small, dark, wartlike fruiting bodies that are lined up in rows (e.g., Phomopsis, bottom image). The canes will wilt and die back above the canker. Other symptoms occur below the union. The bark darkens into a water-soaked, black region. Canes may not die but will produce fewer flowers. Canes can be pruned as soon as be pruned as soon as you notice symptoms. Fungicides may be used on newly cut areas.'
My guess is that it either got in to a cut after the harsh pruning, and/or the harsh pruning stressed the rose so much it got a hold that way.
Either way, it will be happier in the ground not a pot.
- it's rose canker.
'Cankers may be caused by many different organisms, including Botrytis blight mentioned earlier. A canker may appear as a localized lesion on a stem (e.g., Coniothyrium, brand canker, top image) or as a larger discolored or distorted area (e.g., Leptosphaeria, middle image). In other cases, cankers can appear similar to normal tissue, but show up as flat patches on branches. They commonly enlarge to girdle stems, killing the water-conducting tissues and causing the death of upper branches or terminal growth. This form of dieback can also be caused by root rot fungal pathogens that have invaded the roots or the crown of the plant at the soil line.
Certain cankers cause symptoms late in the season that include small, dark, wartlike fruiting bodies that are lined up in rows (e.g., Phomopsis, bottom image). The canes will wilt and die back above the canker. Other symptoms occur below the union. The bark darkens into a water-soaked, black region. Canes may not die but will produce fewer flowers. Canes can be pruned as soon as be pruned as soon as you notice symptoms. Fungicides may be used on newly cut areas.'
My guess is that it either got in to a cut after the harsh pruning, and/or the harsh pruning stressed the rose so much it got a hold that way.
Either way, it will be happier in the ground not a pot.
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