RE: Land Rover launches new Classic Defender V8
RE: Land Rover launches new Classic Defender V8
Wednesday 28th August 2024

Land Rover launches new Classic Defender V8

Meet the 'next chapter' in Land Rover's money-spinning efforts to keep selling restored 405hp Defenders


You have to wonder, given Land Rover’s years-long looting of Defenders produced between 2012 and 2016, precisely how deep the pool of suitable secondhand cars is for it to keep dipping into. Back in 2018, when it first came up with the idea of remaking old Defenders as ‘new’ Classic Works-issued V8s, the firm boasted about carefully sourcing the cream of a nearly-new crop. Now, six years later, it makes only passing reference to how the donor cars appear at the top of the funnel - and none at all about the condition they are in when they do. Probably it hardly matters when a box-fresh V8 and top-to-bottom ‘re-engineering’ beckons. Certainly, it has put off none of the people clamouring to buy one. 

Evidently, the vociferousness of this clamouring has not died down. The newly instituted (at the time) Classic Works division had already sold every example of its first limited run when they were revealed, and it seemed like the final curtain on the original Defender. But since then we’ve had a brace of homages to the Trophy cars, as well as something called the Islay Edition which cost from £230k for one of 30 models. The follow-up, officially unveiled today but making its public debut at Goodwood Revival next month, is called the Classic Defender V8 by Works Bespoke - and appears to jettison entirely the idea that it is a limited series concept. Land Rover simply describes it as ‘a unique new commissioning service’. 

The basic idea though is familiar enough. In return for a substantial amount of money (prices start at £190,000 for a 90, £199,000 for a five-seat 110 and £204,000 for a seven-seat - all before VAT) Land Rover will build you the ‘fully remastered’ Defender of your dreams - assuming those dreams included the installation of a naturally aspirated 5.0-litre V8 and a thoroughly modern eight-speed ZF automatic transmission. There is a new digital configurator to help you do this, although you can expect plenty of ‘personalised support’ from the Classic Works team in Coventry, and now, apparently, Essen in Germany, too. 

Needless to say, this process includes selecting virtually any colour you’d like, but there are also said to be a multitude of exterior details to choose from, including a Heritage, Standard or Adventure grille and a choice of 16-inch ‘Wolf’ wheels or the 18-inch ‘Sawtooth’ alloys that have typically marked out the Works V8 cars. You get LED headlights as a matter of course, although there’s nothing to stop you supplementing them with roof-mounted spotlights or even a full LED light bar. We haven’t seen many buyers go the whole hog in terms of off-road accessories, but if you absolutely must have an expedition cage or a roof rack or a winch, then those are available, too. 

Tellingly, Land Rover expects customers to lean in the other direction with the interior. It pretty much assumes you’re going to want ‘luxurious leather’ on the seats, side trim, doors, roof lining and dashboard, finished in one of five monotone or eight duotone options. There is a choice between ‘Premium’ seats or the much more supportive Recaro-made alternative. Naturally, you get the dinky, 3.5-inch Land Rover Classic Infotainment System touchscreen (which adds sat-nav and DAB radio) as standard - but for anyone really pushing the boat out, there is also the option of a Ply Guys Camper conversion if you want to add bespoke living quarters. 

The latter would likely impinge on the quoted 6.1-second-to-60mph performance Land Rover says you can expect from the 405hp V8 in the 110 (it's 5.6 seconds in the 90) - but you’d probably have fun trying. Otherwise, the conversion work extends marrow-deep into the chassis, where you benefit from the Eibach coil springs, Bilstein dampers and uprated anti-roll bars that make up the established Suspension Upgrade Kit, not to mention the significantly chunkier four-piston Alcon brakes. Distant experience of the Works V8 suggests that the result will be suitably and singularly lovely (assuming you like old Defenders going in) although with Land Rover showing no sign of stopping, you’ll obviously need to make your peace with the idea that you won’t be the only person handing over a quarter of a million quid to own one. We'd expect a queue to form almost immediately. 


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loudlashadjuster

Original Poster:

6,420 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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That green 110 looks brilliant, but I'll leave it to the more well-heeled/gullible to actually buy one.

alscar

9,785 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Assuming you had the donor 90 what would one of the specialist garages charge for a reworked version ie V8 install / brakes / suspension / seats etal - half or less ?

Bobupndown

2,952 posts

72 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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If I had the money I'd buy one in a heart beat.

thepritch

1,564 posts

194 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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I assume they will still rust and fall apart as authentically?

I’m a big fan and owner of a Defender, and these look superb and I’d love one.

But given the …. um…. unique character of a Defender. I just can’t understand why someone would part with that sort of money for one? I know there’s little logic in buying one, and they are now emotional purchases, but well into 6 figures is a heck of a stretch.

Are they destined to just gather dust in someone’s garage - to protect their investment?

Edited by thepritch on Wednesday 28th August 09:57

Morganboy

40 posts

81 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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I like the fact that I can take the kids to the beach in my 2009 90XS.
Paddle board on the roof rack and sand and sea salt to sweep out of the back when I get home without me stressing about the condition of the Landie.
I don’t want to pamper a Landie.

Jon_S_Rally

4,451 posts

117 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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That green 110 with the cream roof looks lovely. I can't imagine ever spending that much on a Defender personally but, if you have the means, I'm sure it would be a lot of fun speccing your own car.

alscar said:
Assuming you had the donor 90 what would one of the specialist garages charge for a reworked version ie V8 install / brakes / suspension / seats etal - half or less ?
I'm sure it would be a good saving, but plenty would be willing to pay the premium for something done by LR themselves.

Glenn63

3,922 posts

113 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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They look good, but do they drive any better than original? No doubt they’ll be quicker but would I want to do couple 100 motorway miles in one.

Decky_Q

2,084 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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alscar said:
Assuming you had the donor 90 what would one of the specialist garages charge for a reworked version ie V8 install / brakes / suspension / seats etal - half or less ?
Far less, £20k for new 4.6 crate engine and fitting including custom pipework and mounts from Rpi that wont break down.

£10k for a respray 'in any colour you want' from your local body shop.

Galvanised chassis for £2.5k, galv bulkhead for £1.5k,

£5k Full retrim in your choice of material.

£2k for LED versions of headlights, indicators etc.



DaveEvs

409 posts

131 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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The 110 on steels does it for me. Call me old fashioned, but I think these look better without the “overlanding to Waitrose” accessories.

Pleased to see Marina column stalks present and correct.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,741 posts

127 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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What drives people to pay this sort of money for one of these has always been one of the greater mysteries of the car world.....

C5_Steve

8,871 posts

132 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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They look lovely but my word that price is punchy.

W12AAM

143 posts

110 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Makes you wonder why they stopped making them, in the 1st place?... They could have kept them going - (all be it on a smaller scale)
They didn't want to sell rights to Jim Ratcliff..and now as he has the Grenadier, they are now churning these out again, to catch up.
Basically a stupid decision for LR to stop making them.

Panamax

9,665 posts

63 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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That white interior is horrid and completely out of place in one of these. But since most will end up on the school run in Knightsbridge (parked between a couple of black G-wagens on chrome wheels) it hardly matters.

MisanoPayments

600 posts

71 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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They look quite good but if I had the dosh and the want for a car just for the dog, I'd probably save myself five grand and buy a Jimny biggrin

AngryPartsBloke

1,439 posts

180 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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W12AAM said:
Makes you wonder why they stopped making them, in the 1st place?... They could have kept them going - (all be it on a smaller scale)
They didn't want to sell rights to Jim Ratcliff..and now as he has the Grenadier, they are now churning these out again, to catch up.
Basically a stupid decision for LR to stop making them.
Catch up?

New defender was on sale well before the Ineos and will always sell superior numbers globally.

Meanwhile they can and have sold these works v8s at a huge premium. Which they also announced a year before Ineos announced the Grenadier

Bobupndown

2,952 posts

72 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Are they being sold as 'new' cars or do they retain the identity of the donor?, they had to stop original Defender production in 2016 because they couldn't meed crash test / emissions requirements of new cars any longer.

Jon_S_Rally

4,451 posts

117 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
What drives people to pay this sort of money for one of these has always been one of the greater mysteries of the car world.....
It's not a mystery at all. Some people can afford it and like the idea of a car that's been rebuilt to their preference by Land Rover. It's really not any more complicated than that.

alscar

9,785 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Jon_S_Rally said:
It's not a mystery at all. Some people can afford it and like the idea of a car that's been rebuilt to their preference by Land Rover. It's really not any more complicated than that.
Very fair although in isolation their prices seem ott.
Although I still prefer Decky’s reply as slightly more justifiable to my wife in monetary terms.

Angelo1985

796 posts

55 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Interesting, but in the end I wouldn’t use that off road after spending all that money.
Better to buy an old rusty one and use it like a farm vehicle with little regard for it, if you need an off road camper. Although, given how much people ask for rusty old defenders, I’d probably look for something else at a better price

bobthemonkey

4,206 posts

245 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Glenn63 said:
They look good, but do they drive any better than original? No doubt they’ll be quicker but would I want to do couple 100 motorway miles in one.
When it came out last time, a lot of the reviews were saying the suspension setup was significantly improved over that of the standard Defender.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/land-ro...


Edited by bobthemonkey on Wednesday 28th August 12:23