Car Finance... PCP / HP / Car loan ??

Car Finance... PCP / HP / Car loan ??

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blackscooby

Original Poster:

346 posts

292 months

Hello,

Never have I ever had car finance. I've always been in a situation where I can buy cars outright. Admittedly they've never been new.
However, our aging 1 series is now 21 years old and very much past its best.

My other half want something more reliable, and to be fair so do I. We already have a a 2010 BMW 5 series that is our main car.

Anyway, we are looking at spending about £15000, with say £3000 to put down leaving the finance requirement of £12000.

Not being up on this sort of thing... what do we do ??
Looking at something that is a few years old she wants a Mercedes GLA....not my choice but heyho.

So what do we do ?
I think PCP is out, so it's HP or bank style car loan. Money Supermarket gives much better rates than HP.

Thank you...
BS (and Mrs BS)

Deep Thought

37,384 posts

209 months

blackscooby said:
Hello,

Never have I ever had car finance. I've always been in a situation where I can buy cars outright. Admittedly they've never been new.
However, our aging 1 series is now 21 years old and very much past its best.

My other half want something more reliable, and to be fair so do I. We already have a a 2010 BMW 5 series that is our main car.

Anyway, we are looking at spending about £15000, with say £3000 to put down leaving the finance requirement of £12000.

Not being up on this sort of thing... what do we do ??
Looking at something that is a few years old she wants a Mercedes GLA....not my choice but heyho.

So what do we do ?
I think PCP is out, so it's HP or bank style car loan. Money Supermarket gives much better rates than HP.

Thank you...
BS (and Mrs BS)
I'd be going for a cheap bank loan. Try Money Saving Expert - they've a loan rate finder

devnull

3,832 posts

169 months

For the PCP, depends on the rates really. A PCP is just loan with a different structure and options to return the car. I wouldn't dismiss it if the rates are OK.

James_33

617 posts

78 months

Whatever you do don't PCP, biggest mistake i ever made and now stuck with it for the next 3 years after a year in already.

interstellar

4,208 posts

158 months

James_33 said:
Whatever you do don't PCP, biggest mistake i ever made and now stuck with it for the next 3 years after a year in already.
Why are you stuck with it? You can sell it or px it ?

All pcps will be upside down financially in the first year so if that’s the reason that’s a fairly normal position?

Deep Thought

37,384 posts

209 months

devnull said:
For the PCP, depends on the rates really. A PCP is just loan with a different structure and options to return the car. I wouldn't dismiss it if the rates are OK.
PCP rates on used cars are almost invariably horrible.

Best avoided.

James_33

617 posts

78 months

interstellar said:
James_33 said:
Whatever you do don't PCP, biggest mistake i ever made and now stuck with it for the next 3 years after a year in already.
Why are you stuck with it? You can sell it or px it ?

All pcps will be upside down financially in the first year so if that’s the reason that’s a fairly normal position?
Have no problems admitting that i well and truly had my pants pulled down with this "deal" i got on the car i have, paid more than i should have, and would probably get £5k less than i owe on the car itself.

Stupid and naive, this was my first PCP deal i ever took and wish i had actually got something for much less money that i had more interest in rather than an appliance, but thought more about the needs of the family rather than including myself in what i may want too seen as I'm the only one who can drive in the household.

interstellar

4,208 posts

158 months

James_33 said:
interstellar said:
James_33 said:
Whatever you do don't PCP, biggest mistake i ever made and now stuck with it for the next 3 years after a year in already.
Why are you stuck with it? You can sell it or px it ?

All pcps will be upside down financially in the first year so if that’s the reason that’s a fairly normal position?
Have no problems admitting that i well and truly had my pants pulled down with this "deal" i got on the car i have, paid more than i should have, and would probably get £5k less than i owe on the car itself.

Stupid and naive, this was my first PCP deal i ever took and wish i had actually got something for much less money that i had more interest in rather than an appliance, but thought more about the needs of the family rather than including myself in what i may want too seen as I'm the only one who can drive in the household.
I wouldn’t feel too bad that doesn’t sound unusual. The pcp is set up to end up with equity at the end in most instances (depending on the market conditions).

If you are 5k under market value a year in that is quite normal, it will settle month by month.

It’s the most common method of purchasing but if you didn’t want to keep it for 3 years then that’s where it’s an issue.

James_33

617 posts

78 months

interstellar said:
James_33 said:
interstellar said:
James_33 said:
Whatever you do don't PCP, biggest mistake i ever made and now stuck with it for the next 3 years after a year in already.
Why are you stuck with it? You can sell it or px it ?

All pcps will be upside down financially in the first year so if that’s the reason that’s a fairly normal position?
Have no problems admitting that i well and truly had my pants pulled down with this "deal" i got on the car i have, paid more than i should have, and would probably get £5k less than i owe on the car itself.

Stupid and naive, this was my first PCP deal i ever took and wish i had actually got something for much less money that i had more interest in rather than an appliance, but thought more about the needs of the family rather than including myself in what i may want too seen as I'm the only one who can drive in the household.
I wouldn’t feel too bad that doesn’t sound unusual. The pcp is set up to end up with equity at the end in most instances (depending on the market conditions).

If you are 5k under market value a year in that is quite normal, it will settle month by month.

It’s the most common method of purchasing but if you didn’t want to keep it for 3 years then that’s where it’s an issue.
We wanted a car that would be big enough for the family, was relatively new and had spec that we needed in some cases and in others wanted and that car came up, newest car I've ever owned after all my others in the past being at least 6 to 10 years old from time of purchase, I did get a little drawn in by the nice showroom having never had that "experience" before but the main thing for me is that whilst there's nothing wrong with the car itself, the biggest regret is that i have a car that i have very little interest in albeit everyone else liking the car in the family and not really in a position to afford a second car to keep my interests alive until it's financially viable to get rid of this one.

Everything you've said is true in that i know come time it'll level out a bit more, just didn't particularly think I'd get bored as quick as i have but it is what it is.

Mandat

4,162 posts

250 months

James_33 said:
We wanted a car that would be big enough for the family, was relatively new and had spec that we needed in some cases and in others wanted and that car came up, newest car I've ever owned after all my others in the past being at least 6 to 10 years old from time of purchase, I did get a little drawn in by the nice showroom having never had that "experience" before but the main thing for me is that whilst there's nothing wrong with the car itself, the biggest regret is that i have a car that i have very little interest in albeit everyone else liking the car in the family and not really in a position to afford a second car to keep my interests alive until it's financially viable to get rid of this one.

Everything you've said is true in that i know come time it'll level out a bit more, just didn't particularly think I'd get bored as quick as i have but it is what it is.
It sounds like a combination of different factors conspired against you in that situation.

On the point of car finance, you would have been generally in the same position with PCP, HP, bank loan, or even paying cash from savings.

valiant

11,982 posts

172 months

If you intend on replacing every three years then PCP may be for you but watch the interest rates, they can be high.

Otherwise straight HP or personal loan but again watch the rates but you may get a few sweeteners for taking dealer finance but looking around it will in all probability still be cheaper to get a personal loan which are circling around 6% for someone with decent credit history.

blackscooby

Original Poster:

346 posts

292 months

Yesterday (14:14)
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Thanks for all the responses, we are now sorted.

interstellar

4,208 posts

158 months

Yesterday (14:44)
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blackscooby said:
Thanks for all the responses, we are now sorted.
What did you do OP?

Hustle_

25,445 posts

172 months

Yesterday (14:45)
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Why is the answer not a 0% credit card?

blackscooby

Original Poster:

346 posts

292 months

Yesterday (17:20)
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interstellar said:
blackscooby said:
Thanks for all the responses, we are now sorted.
What did you do OP?
A very unexpected 0% loan from the MIL with a somewhat flexible repayment plan.

interstellar

4,208 posts

158 months

Yesterday (17:25)
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blackscooby said:
A very unexpected 0% loan from the MIL with a somewhat flexible repayment plan.
Nice, that will work!