RE: Oof: there's a Caterham Levante V8 for sale
RE: Oof: there's a Caterham Levante V8 for sale
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Oof: there's a Caterham Levante V8 for sale

Sevens are sprightly when powered by a Jimny engine; imagine one with a 550hp V8...


Don’t judge a book by its cover is one of the stranger sayings, given the outside of a book is there precisely to tell you about its contents. But it most definitely still applies to cars; the most innocuous of family estates might have a huge V8 lurking under the bonnet, a humble saloon could have received a very spicy tune, or a classic SUV may have been treated to a total overhaul of its running gear. Usually you can tell, but not always - and under the radar performance cars are some of the most likeable out there. 

Nobody would call a Caterham Seven a discreet sports car, given the sound and the spectacle of any drive in one. There’ll be the moans and groans of a driver attempting to get in for one thing, before even thinking about side exit exhausts, individual throttle bodies and shrieking sequentials. This one, however, almost qualifies as a Caterham Q-car, if such a thing could ever exist. To most intents and purposes, it looks like a common-or-garden Sigma or Duractec-engined Seven: there’s a windscreen in place, the wheels look normal and the roll cage is entirely reasonable. It’s extreme because all Caterhams are extreme, seemingly no more so than usual. 

Maybe the rear end hints that this is something a little different, with four exhausts and a different light design. But again, it’s hardly drastically different, and it’s only under the bonnet where the reality is uncovered: this is a V8 Caterham, one of the precious few Levantes built at the end of the '00s. And where every other V8 Seven we’ve seen has looked like something out of the Marvel universe, this one looks positively ordinary given its performance potential. And that’s very cool. 

Precise details about the Levante are hard to come by, given there were both V8 and later V6 models carrying the name. Plus it was launched at the worst time possible for such a thing (financial crises really hurt Sunday morning sports cars) and very few people ever drove one. There were originally intended to be eight Levantes with the 2.4-litre V8, a unit created by mating a pair of 1.2-litre superbike four-cylinder units on a custom crank (and then supercharging it for good measure), but the ad for this one suggests only five were ever made. Perhaps understandable at more than £100,000 in 2008. The V6 follow-up was believed to add only seven more cars to the tally. Whatever the engine, the pool of 550hp Caterhams (or 600hp, allegedly, in the case of the V6) is tiny. 

This one is of additional interest as it was bought new by ‘a Le Mans race winner’ and put in their personal collection, never registered or driven. Of all the people who could probably take advantage of such a car, an actual racing driver sounds like just the person, but for whatever reason they didn’t. The next owner added just a handful before also stuffing it away; it looks as good as new because it basically is. The Levante will go to specialist Geoff Page for fettling before reaching its next owner, too, so it drives as intended.  

What the heck 550hp of supercharged V8 Caterham with a Sadev sequential is actually like we’re not sure, but it must be on the wild side of outrageous based on the feral nature of Sevens with 300hp or so. Even the selling dealer, one that features predominantly Caterhams in its rolling stock, won’t offer a warranty due to the ‘extreme specialist nature of this car’. Just imagine what parts for a bespoke V8 like this might cost. Even against conventionally crazy Caterhams, this is another level again - and that’s fantastic. A Levante is patently going to require very careful care just in terms of maintenance given its unique nature, before even thinking about driving a c.1000hp-per-tonne Seven. But ownership surely promises to redefine what ‘unforgettable’ means to the next keeper. For just £50k, too - there are mere 360s around at not much less. And as we started with an old adage, let’s end with one as well, which you can probably all guess: fortune favours the brave. Just maybe save that first drive until we’re back in British Summer Time, though…


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Familymad

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235 months

Yesterday (07:39)
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Can t deny I have looked at this ad a huge amount of times, reviewed the scant info on the engine, its maker (sadly deceased I believe) and reliability stories including some YouTube. This one has been up for a while and there is also a yellow one with Sevens&Classics, which is the V6 turbo and more BHP - https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16762334

I d throw in an offer, if I knew it would be at least as reliable as a 620 at similar money. These aren t as pretty, to my eyes, but I can t deny the engineering that s gone into it. Don t they always say a modified car always brings issues .

Turn 7 are a great firm and, through their YouTube vids, have done more for the Caterham brand than Caterham. I d love to buy a vehicle off them but none of what has come in has tickled my fancy yet

A two year warranty and I ll give this a go with a blog too !!!

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Edited by Familymad on Thursday 30th October 08:22


Edited by Familymad on Thursday 30th October 08:45

Niffty951

2,378 posts

246 months

Yesterday (07:55)
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Might be the perfect daily driver

GreatScott2016

2,016 posts

106 months

Yesterday (07:55)
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Familymad said:
Can t deny I have looked at this ad a huge amount of times, reviewed the scant info on the engine, its maker (sadly deceased I believe) and reliability stories including some YouTube. This one has been up for a while and there is also a yellow one with GP Sevens which is the V6 turbo and more BHP - https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16762334

I d throw in an offer, if I knew it would be at least as reliable as a 620 at similar money. These aren t as pretty to my eyes, but I can t deny the engineering that s gone into it. Don t they always say a modified car always brings issues .

Turn 7 are a great firm and, through their YouTube vids, have done more for the Caterham brand than Caterham. I d love to buy a vehicle off them but none of what has come in has tickled my fancy yet

A two year warranty and I ll give this a go with a blog too !!!

Edited by Familymad on Thursday 30th October 07:42
Good post. Can’t help but think that a lowered powered model would produce similar thrills smile. IF reliable, sounds like a bargain.

Gecko1978

11,964 posts

175 months

Yesterday (07:59)
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Is the engine not thr one hotshot racing build so I assume they can make all the parts etc needed for it.

Wonder if 1000bhp per ton just overwhelms every other part of the car an thus it's just not that good

Gary C

14,156 posts

197 months

Yesterday (08:00)
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Always remember seeing a V8 in a Caterham on a ferry.

We were giving it the once over when my friend said, "there's a turbo on this side", I looked closer "there's one on this side too"

Rover V8 twin turbo, must have been fun.

Familymad

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Yesterday (08:23)
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Gecko1978 said:
Is the engine not thr one hotshot racing build so I assume they can make all the parts etc needed for it.

Wonder if 1000bhp per ton just overwhelms every other part of the car an thus it's just not that good
I’m not sure it is the holeshot one? Someone will know on here tho!

MK3 Dan

337 posts

163 months

Yesterday (08:44)
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Familymad said:
Gecko1978 said:
Is the engine not thr one hotshot racing build so I assume they can make all the parts etc needed for it.

Wonder if 1000bhp per ton just overwhelms every other part of the car an thus it's just not that good
I m not sure it is the holeshot one? Someone will know on here tho!
No, its not the Holeshot one. Holeshot built the Hartley V8 from the USA which is based on the Hayabusa engine - we have built a few of them at work.

Radical did its own version based on the Hayabusa too with a different angle to the V.

I don't know much about this one, can only assume it is based on something like the Kawasaki ZX12R engine?

If I needed help with this engine I would talking to TKD who have made a few different bike engine based V8 engines in recent years, mostly used in Hillclimb.

S600BSB

6,877 posts

124 months

Yesterday (08:48)
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Want to add a Caterham to my garage, but this one is just a bit OTT!

DaveK-S1

294 posts

219 months

Yesterday (08:49)
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The engines were built originally by Russell Savory RST Performance, iirc they are now maintained/built by Mountune

i always thought the 2.4ltr V6 na engine @ 380bhp would be enough in a 7, supercharging just seem to be a exercise in excess

Master Bean

4,659 posts

138 months

Yesterday (09:19)
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None of these silly high powered Seven's are actually used. They're just a physical Top Trumps.

cerb4.5lee

39,282 posts

198 months

Yesterday (09:29)
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I bet that is mental to drive at that power to weight. Getting it off the line quickly would take some skill as well I'd imagine.

Terminator X

18,569 posts

222 months

Yesterday (09:33)
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550hp?! That is insane in something so small.

TX.

Gecko1978

11,964 posts

175 months

Yesterday (09:39)
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I always wondered why the westfield XTR was not more successful and engine like this would have fit much better

Geoffcapes

1,021 posts

182 months

Yesterday (09:45)
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Keeping that thing in a straight line on a warm sunny, dry day, must be as difficult as keeping a Mk2 Escort RS2000 in a straight line on a wet Welsh rally stage!

The slightest wrong move and you're in a ditch!

AndySheff

6,791 posts

225 months

Yesterday (09:48)
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Wow ! Bet that's fun.

ben5575

7,091 posts

239 months

Yesterday (09:56)
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Having owned a 230bhp seven, I cannot imagine what 550bhp must be like biggrin

I had a Ferrari Titanium Superlight as well, so the colour is hitting the nostalgic feels.

So much want for this car cloud9

Familymad

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1,484 posts

235 months

Yesterday (10:00)
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Good previous thread on the Levante and engine history

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Cryssys

725 posts

56 months

Yesterday (10:03)
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550hp?

What would happen to your teeth if you floored it?

Om

2,098 posts

96 months

Yesterday (10:07)
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ISTR an issue with the Westfield V8 wasn't so much coping with the outright power but with the amount of engine braking in such a light car. You had to be wary of transitioning from throttle on to off especially in the wet as the shift in weight combined with the compression of the engine could lock the rear wheels up in such a light car so left foot braking is the order of the day. Do these have a similar issue or are they more manageable I wonder?

Familymad

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