RE: Must-have manual misfits | Six of the Best
RE: Must-have manual misfits | Six of the Best
Saturday 1st November

Must-have manual misfits | Six of the Best

Some cars were born with great manual gearboxes, some have greatness thrust upon them...


BMW M3 (F80), 2015, 77k, PH Auctions

The manual gearbox is enjoying a strange kind of renaissance of late. Superseded as the default transmission in so many cars now by more efficient autos (or battery power), they’re becoming the preserve of the upper echelons - where a value is being placed on tactility and involvement. Great news for those that can, if less encouraging for the average enthusiast. Thank goodness, then, for those who embraced three pedals and a stick in days gone by (even when it wasn’t fashionable) because it means some great opportunities secondhand. This M3 is exactly the kind of thing we’re talking about. The DCT so comprehensively outsold the manual that BMW dropped the six-speed option for the current car. Which means this is the last era of M3 ever to offer DIY gearchanges, as well as - let’s be honest - a much smarter look than the latest model. Which sounds pretty cool to us. Bidding starts on Tuesday… 

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Audi S5, 2011, 82k, £8,495

An easy one to forget about, the S5, yet a very easy one to like. Not only was there the contemporary 8,250rpm RS5 to divert attention away from this car, the original A5 facelift totally changed the mechanical makeup of the S model. Gone was the V8, replaced by a supercharged V6 that was just as fast and used less fuel. That update also removed the manual gearbox, meaning only a few years of manual, V8 S5s. Years when the auto would have outsold the three-pedal car, perhaps a more natural fit for its GT nature. But now the first S5 is one of the most affordable ways into a manual V8 - and that appeal shouldn’t need very much explaining on PH, especially given the 350-odd horsepower and 7,000rpm available. This 2011 car must be one of the last made, and costs just £8,495. A manual misfit that surely can’t get much cheaper. 

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Aston Martin Vantage, 2021, 15k, £79,995

Make a limited edition, manual Aston Martin wild to look at and collectors will flock to it - see cars like the Valour and Valiant for evidence. But when Aston offered up a gearlever and a clutch for its ‘ordinary’ sports cars, those models like the Vantage that cost hundreds of thousands less, buyers weren’t all that bothered. Strange. Considerable effort was expended on getting an AMG turbo V8 to work with a manual that it was never really designed for, a new diff was fitted and an AMR halo model introduced, but to little avail - the manual Vantage never really captured the public's imagination (or their deposits). As an everyday sports car, the auto was a better fit - but as something to saunter around in at the weekend, a manual Vantage still seems deeply appealing. Particularly with a new manual Vantage unlikely to return anytime soon - unless, that is, for a super duper limited edition that’ll cost an awful lot more…  

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Porsche 928 S4 SE, 1988, 128k, £66,000 

Manual 928s are very hard to come by, because as the GT of the Porsche line-up, an auto made total sense. But with its favourable weight distribution thanks to the transaxle and a fabulous V8 up front, one or two did take a punt on the manual, which must have made for an awesome experience. This one isn’t just any old manual 928, either, as it’s an S4 Sport Equipment, a slightly plusher version of the Clubsport offered in Europe. Just 42 were sold here, a pre-GTS flagship that boasted 320hp from the 5.0 V8, shorter ratios, a limited-slip diff and sports suspension. A proper hot rod that must have had limited appeal back in the '80s, yet looks hugely desirable these days. With the auto 928s commonplace by comparison, the manuals are in high demand, none more so than the spicier 5.0 and 5.4-litre models. The misfit has never looked quite so cool.  

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Jaguar XJR, 1995, 158k, £19,950

And you thought a Porsche 928 was a rare manual! Think straight-six, rear-drive, manual sports saloon and BMW is the first brand that comes to mind, of course, and that must have been the rival Jaguar was targeting when the X300 XJR was launched with its supercharged 4.0 AJ16 and five-speed manual. Obviously, most went for the auto, because it was a traditional Jaguar four-door whatever its maker intended, but what a fascinating classic prospect the three-pedal XJR now looks. Once the V8 arrived this transmission option was gone for the flagship XJ, never to return, and it’s reckoned just 102 RHD cars were ever made without the J-gate in the centre console. They’re much more valuable than the auto as a result, and this looks like a corker, with 30 years of main dealer history behind it. The perfect thing to practice your heel and toe in (hopefully). 

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Renaultsport Megane 280, 2019, 87k, PH Auctions

Is this a contentious one? The fact that Renault dropped the manual for the final facelift of the R.S. Megane would certainly suggest that the dual-clutch auto was favoured by customers. And even the most devout fan would have to concede the manual wasn’t the best available. All that being said, things have changed enormously in the six years since this Megane 280 was registered: the manual gearbox went, then the Renaultsport name entirely, then the combustion engine. Fast Renaults as we knew them are dead, replaced by electric Alpines; which are off to an auspicious start, albeit offering up a very different French and front-drive experience. So it’s easy to see why the variant that wasn’t as desirable not long ago might appeal now. A bit like the M3, in fact, the combination of a modern, safe, efficient performance car with a manual to play with sounds like fun. If only more folk thought so when they were new… 

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Author
Discussion

m62tu

Original Poster:

111 posts

58 months

Saturday 1st November
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Great selection, but I feel like the 928 is overpriced. Aston 7 speeder is tempting and the Jag is unique so why not.

Pablo16v

2,494 posts

216 months

Saturday 1st November
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The S5 is the affordable one for me, and I'm sure I would be very happy with it, but the XJR .....cloud9

Billy_Whizzzz

2,402 posts

162 months

Saturday 1st November
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Everything is better with a manual.

juniorbox

89 posts

163 months

Saturday 1st November
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It's gotta be that 928 for me - if only I had a garage!

J77wck

322 posts

26 months

Saturday 1st November
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The aston does it for me.

MikeM6

5,672 posts

121 months

Saturday 1st November
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Everything is better with a manual.
I used to think this (and was a die hard manual only chap), but having owned a manual BMW 335i it isn't always true. I spent so long looking for one and over paid for it... But after a couple of years of ownership it was just didn't work as well as it should. All normal cars with manuals are so rubbish (terrible rev hang and ultra long gearing) that for anything mundane, I'd have automatics.

Anything meant for driving pleasure first and foremost (e.g. MX5) does benefit from a good manual box though. It just feels right if you are driving a car hard to change gears manually. On this list I would be intrigued by the Aston and how that works, or even the M3 and see if the shift quality was better than usual BMW.

el romeral

1,792 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st November
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The Audi looks pretty good value I think.

Robertb

2,978 posts

257 months

Saturday 1st November
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What a great list!

That S5 looks good for the money, design still looks very fresh today.

Its Just Adz

16,908 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st November
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I'd be choosing the M3 from that list normally, but a white car with the non comp wheels just doesn't look quite right.

The Jag and Aston don't interest me one bit.

Porsche looks great, even suits white paint from the era.

Not bothered about the S5 either really so that leaves the Megane, that's my choice this week.

SkinnyPete

1,703 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st November
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That S5 advert has just had me looking at them on YouTube, they sound better than everything else made today.

Taz73

313 posts

31 months

Saturday 1st November
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928’s are gorgeous, yes please, I do like the S5 as well, A5’s are, to my eyes, great looking cars in all variants.

GreatScott2016

2,024 posts

107 months

Saturday 1st November
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The M3 (F80) is a very good looking car, and just highlights how poor the modern M car equivalent design is, imho smile. The Vantage is tempting, but design wise, not as pretty as its predecessor or the latest Vantage. Despite its rarity, the 928 “looks” overpriced. Good list, but the BMW would be my pick. As for manual cars, I love them and still have one, but we have a couple of BMW autos too that are brilliant, so I can certainly see an argument for both for sure (no pun intended Lee smile ).

Kawasicki

13,866 posts

254 months

Saturday 1st November
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MikeM6 said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
Everything is better with a manual.
I used to think this (and was a die hard manual only chap), but having owned a manual BMW 335i it isn't always true. I spent so long looking for one and over paid for it... But after a couple of years of ownership it was just didn't work as well as it should. All normal cars with manuals are so rubbish (terrible rev hang and ultra long gearing) that for anything mundane, I'd have automatics.

Anything meant for driving pleasure first and foremost (e.g. MX5) does benefit from a good manual box though. It just feels right if you are driving a car hard to change gears manually. On this list I would be intrigued by the Aston and how that works, or even the M3 and see if the shift quality was better than usual BMW.
A change of strategy occurred at BMW between the E36 and E46, so in the mid 90’s, from my experience. The E36 manual gearbox was pleasant to use… and the E46 was friggin terrible, not because of the gearbox itself, but because they introduced a clutch delay valve into the system, with the aim of protecting the driveline from drivers that just sidestep the clutch. It ruined the modulation of the clutch… later they introduced rev hang, probably for emission reasons. Both together? Poor.

Baldchap

9,285 posts

111 months

Saturday 1st November
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The XJR is the real outlier for me.

If it's not crispy and bendy (like mine was), I bet it's almost as good as the auto. laugh

J4CKO

45,024 posts

219 months

Saturday 1st November
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Everything is better with a manual.
Some cars suit a manual, some suit an auto, I wouldn’t want my Jag XJ as a manual, wouldn’t want my Fiesta ST with an auto.

That S5 looks stunning in white, such a handsome car the A5 coupe of that era.

valiant

12,766 posts

179 months

Saturday 1st November
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A manual box in that Jag just seems…..a bit wrong.

Still. At least we had the choice.


Cryssys

731 posts

57 months

Saturday 1st November
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Always liked the look of the S5 but white doesn't do it any favours. It is surprisingly cheap though.

M3 looks tempting.

Leon R

3,582 posts

115 months

Saturday 1st November
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Definitely rather have that generation of M3 with a manual.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,402 posts

162 months

Saturday 1st November
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Kawasicki said:
MikeM6 said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
Everything is better with a manual.
I used to think this (and was a die hard manual only chap), but having owned a manual BMW 335i it isn't always true. I spent so long looking for one and over paid for it... But after a couple of years of ownership it was just didn't work as well as it should. All normal cars with manuals are so rubbish (terrible rev hang and ultra long gearing) that for anything mundane, I'd have automatics.

Anything meant for driving pleasure first and foremost (e.g. MX5) does benefit from a good manual box though. It just feels right if you are driving a car hard to change gears manually. On this list I would be intrigued by the Aston and how that works, or even the M3 and see if the shift quality was better than usual BMW.
A change of strategy occurred at BMW between the E36 and E46, so in the mid 90 s, from my experience. The E36 manual gearbox was pleasant to use and the E46 was friggin terrible, not because of the gearbox itself, but because they introduced a clutch delay valve into the system, with the aim of protecting the driveline from drivers that just sidestep the clutch. It ruined the modulation of the clutch later they introduced rev hang, probably for emission reasons. Both together? Poor.
I never have had the sense that the manuals are rubbish tho - be it in an M2/3 or whatever. Whereas the ZF8 Auto in my G31 530d really is rubbish, despite being revered

NigelCayless

225 posts

174 months

Saturday 1st November
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928 for me. Always loved Chase HQ