RE: For sale: a flock of Birds BMW demonstrators
RE: For sale: a flock of Birds BMW demonstrators
Friday 27th February

For sale: a flock of Birds BMW demonstrators

Famed tuner is selling its 4 Series and Z4, plus an M240i - don't delay!


Though certainly improved for the current cars, there was a time not so very long ago when the M Performance BMWs - all the powerful straight-six stuff, really - didn’t quite have the chassis quality to match their superb powertrains. Traction was iffy, the damping not really good enough, and the steering a bit mushy. There was huge potential, yet it was not totally fulfilled by the factory. 

One solution was to raid the M Performance catalogue for accessories - or for those who didn’t want to give BMW any more money, it was well worth giving Birds a call. For decades, it has offered a range of parts to bring the best out of non-M BMWs, and still does to this day. And as BMW began introducing turbocharged engines to its core models, without necessarily uprating the rest of the car to match, the Birds tweaks became more appealing than ever. Think better springs and dampers to tie down the body control, Quaife LSDs to improve traction, then perhaps a little more power just because. The overhauled cars were noticeably nicer to drive than standard, without the intensity or stiffness of M cars. Or the expense of Alpinas. 

Of course, a Birds BMW was always a pretty niche prospect. Most folk will be happy with the standard BMW offering, the M cachet is undeniable, and we all know that money spent modifying is seldom recouped when sold. So to find one of its demonstrators for sale is pretty significant. You might recognise the manual 435i, complete with its ‘B18 RDS’ numberplate, featuring on PH way back when, impressing with its more sophisticated manners and connected feel. It was a significant spend - the power, diff, springs and dampers, anti-roll bars and short shift - coming in at almost £8,000, but deemed money very well spent on an underwhelming standard car. 

Here it is once more, a dozen years later, for sale with just 11,000 miles on it. And boasting plenty more than just the aforementioned bits, with an Alcon brake upgrade and 20-inch Hartge wheels as well. With the mileage and the modifications, it really is a 4 Series like no other. And a whole lot cooler than an M4. 

The B4-35i has been listed at a dealer next door to Birds, along with three other very intriguing BMWs. The second is another F32 4 Series, a B4-35d that also benefits from suspension, engine and differential work. Unsurprisingly, given how good the prospect of a 380hp straight-six diesel with a proper LSD sounds, this 4 Series has been driven a bit more, with almost 50k under its forged alloy wheels. Again, it’s a very interesting two-door BMW, the ultimate motorway express. And it doesn’t even have tinted windows… 

The Z4 you see here is really cool, benefitting from a host of Hartge parts (including the wheels and exhaust) plus extra power, a limited-slip diff and Birds-fettled suspension. As the Z4 generation that sat between a fully fledged M car and the later M40is, a proper performance-focused take on the platform is interesting if nothing else. Moreover, it is an immaculately presented BMW convertible, driven fewer than 30,000 miles in 17 years. 

Finally, the M240i. Less modified than the rest, with just the Birds suspension work, but also with even less mileage at just 8,600. As a 70-plate car, it’s one of the last of a much-loved baby BMW, and benefits from a lovely Long Beach Blue over Oyster colour combo. It doesn’t look far off new, in fact, so it’s easy to imagine someone spending £30k on it - even with later xDrive cars almost down to that money now. 

The other Birds BMWs for sale might take a more dedicated enthusiast, given at least £25k is needed (for the 435d). The Z4 has gone up for sale at £28,950 and the B4 3.5 at £32,950. And when a 20,000-mile M4 of the same era costs similar money, that might be a tough sell. But then you’ll be doing very well indeed to find a manual M4, and it wouldn’t be a surprise to find the red car much nicer to drive on the road. Birds BMWs really are that good. There seems no better time to find out what the fuss is all about...


See the original advert (B4-35i)

See the original advert (B4-35d)

See the original advert (Z4)

See the original advert (M240i)

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GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

2,232 posts

111 months

Yesterday (07:45)
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Some nice cars there, I’d have the M240i but not a fan of light interiors in general frown

Billy_Whizzzz

2,534 posts

166 months

Yesterday (07:53)
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Most overpriced by about 50%…?

yme402

599 posts

125 months

Yesterday (07:54)
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Those early Z4 roadsters are starting to look really cool as they age.

TerryFarquit

109 posts

150 months

Yesterday (08:28)
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The Birds suspension is a stunning improvement to my 435 i on its own and is a must have.

Before I had this, the suspension (M Power) was hard, crashy and not nice to drive. (The standard SE suspension is a much nicer ride, but can bottom out when pressing on)

I ended up getting their whole package with the Quaife differential and the power upgrade and it has been well worth it. I didn’t have to have the diff but when you are traversing Milton Keynes at night and feel it locking up and the power going down as you exit the roundabouts it always brings a smile to my face. Beautiful bit of British engineering as well.

911Spanker

2,981 posts

39 months

Yesterday (08:51)
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Same here. I bought a 130i but couldn't drive it as standard as dynamically the shortfalls were obvious.

Went to Birds, spent a load of money (as much as the car was worth) and got their full B1 Dynamics Package.

The ride it a bit hard but it's great fun. It rotates with ease, particularly in the wet and has transformed it as a driver's car. I don't think there will be many hot hatches which are anywhere near as much fun.

Got rid of the ridiculous fat M Sport steering wheel for one out of a 320d which has also increased steering feel.

Track days, skid pans, B road thrashing, euro trips, school run etc. It can do it all - a great one car solution.

ex-devonpaul

1,614 posts

160 months

Yesterday (08:55)
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Most overpriced by about 50% ?
Yup - that Z4 seems way optimistic. An £8k car with a few mods up for £20k more - the most expensive Z4M coupe is less than that.

pb8g09

2,994 posts

92 months

Yesterday (09:16)
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Whilst I’d love that M240i- it’s not the best spec, no ProNav for starters.

And the prices are insane. £30k is good M car money.

cerb4.5lee

41,354 posts

203 months

Yesterday (09:19)
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I've always read good things about what Birds do to their cars for sure. Some really nice stuff there I reckon. cool

SweptVolume

1,165 posts

116 months

Yesterday (09:33)
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yme402 said:
Those early Z4 roadsters are starting to look really cool as they age.
Agree. The E89 Z4 was unloved from day one, and it's not the best sports car by all accounts, but I can't help thinking it's becoming a very classy looking machine as it ages, and you can find good examples with a fabulous straight six (either 2.5 or 3.0) for around £8k.

I can't justify a 2 seater roadster at this stage in my life (had a few pre-children), but if I could, I'd snap one up. Ideal spec, a manual 3.0 n/a in dark blue with a light interior and silver wheels that aren't too big (I think 18" is the sweet spot on these).

This is the closet I can find. More miles than I'd expect for the price and those seats are really grubby. Seems prices are going up on these compared to a year ago when I was last looking.

www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602059699537

911Spanker

2,981 posts

39 months

Yesterday (09:38)
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pb8g09 said:
Whilst I d love that M240i- it s not the best spec, no ProNav for starters.

And the prices are insane. £30k is good M car money.
It's probably a better road car than an M car. Also you are likely getting far fresher components i.e. suspension, diff etc

It's only a 9k mile car too - an equivalent M2 will be £10k+ on top.

Should be a manual though.

Baldchap

9,395 posts

115 months

Yesterday (09:39)
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People like me drive demonstrators and they drive them the way I drive them. For that reason alone I wouldn't dream of buying anything remotely interesting that's been a demo.

An aftermarket tuner's ex demo? That's been bouncing off the limiter from cold every time the engine's been run.

Wills2

28,030 posts

198 months

Yesterday (09:54)
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£32.5k for a 16 year old 435i with a remap? I'd take a AUC M4 competition at half that age instead and be happy it had done a few more miles, 11,000 miles suggests it's spent it life doing very short demo runs.

Crazy pricing but if you only need one punter to agree with you.






MyV10BarksAndBites

1,645 posts

72 months

Yesterday (09:59)
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Everything from Birds is overpriced... Never took them se... ever biglaughbeer

s m

24,138 posts

226 months

Yesterday (10:01)
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M240i for me out of the selection there

911Spanker

2,981 posts

39 months

Yesterday (10:10)
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MyV10BarksAndBites said:
Everything from Birds is overpriced... Never took them se... ever biglaughbeer
Anyone else who does anything similar?

The Driving God

113 posts

58 months

Yesterday (10:16)
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911Spanker said:
Same here. I bought a 130i but couldn't drive it as standard as dynamically the shortfalls were obvious.

Went to Birds, spent a load of money (as much as the car was worth) and got their full B1 Dynamics Package.

The ride it a bit hard but it's great fun. It rotates with ease, particularly in the wet and has transformed it as a driver's car. I don't think there will be many hot hatches which are anywhere near as much fun.

Got rid of the ridiculous fat M Sport steering wheel for one out of a 320d which has also increased steering feel.

Track days, skid pans, B road thrashing, euro trips, school run etc. It can do it all - a great one car solution.
That B1 package is under £3.5k fitted, including VAT.
You must have bought one hell of a st box if the car itself was that.

cerb4.5lee

41,354 posts

203 months

Yesterday (10:28)
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SweptVolume said:
yme402 said:
Those early Z4 roadsters are starting to look really cool as they age.
Agree. The E89 Z4 was unloved from day one, and it's not the best sports car by all accounts, but I can't help thinking it's becoming a very classy looking machine as it ages, and you can find good examples with a fabulous straight six (either 2.5 or 3.0) for around £8k.
I've always liked them, even though many don't, and I've liked them since they first came out as well. I didn't like the interior in my Z4M for example, so when the E89 came out, it just looked and felt like a far more classy car to me in comparison. I much prefer the folding metal roof to look at in comparison to a cloth one too.

911Spanker

2,981 posts

39 months

Yesterday (10:30)
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The Driving God said:
911Spanker said:
Same here. I bought a 130i but couldn't drive it as standard as dynamically the shortfalls were obvious.

Went to Birds, spent a load of money (as much as the car was worth) and got their full B1 Dynamics Package.

The ride it a bit hard but it's great fun. It rotates with ease, particularly in the wet and has transformed it as a driver's car. I don't think there will be many hot hatches which are anywhere near as much fun.

Got rid of the ridiculous fat M Sport steering wheel for one out of a 320d which has also increased steering feel.

Track days, skid pans, B road thrashing, euro trips, school run etc. It can do it all - a great one car solution.
That B1 package is under £3.5k fitted, including VAT.
You must have bought one hell of a st box if the car itself was that.
Not really true:

https://www.birdsauto.com/parts/L8731878100

Other bits were done to the car as well. It's far from a stbox believe me as lots of the car have been gone through.

Very happy with the final result thanks.

Frankychops

1,836 posts

32 months

Yesterday (11:17)
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Massively over priced and not really a ‘famed’ tuner.

911Spanker

2,981 posts

39 months

Yesterday (11:36)
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Frankychops said:
Massively over priced and not really a famed tuner.
I'm looking for a BMW specialist to do some engine work. Any recommendations as keen to take it to a 'famed tuner'?