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LondonPorker

Original Poster:

51 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Hello,

I have been directed here from general gassing, just brought a 996 so thought it was about time I logged onto this site properly. Any tips/advice for a new owner, cheap servicing in London etc (not that i am a cheapskate)

thanks in advance for your help

sleep envy

62,260 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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You've found the site now you're doomed, doomed I tell ya!

nervous

24,050 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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hey enjoy your car

911nutter

204 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Im a new boy too. Bought my cab from John at specialist cars direct last November. Seems to know his stuff.

LondonPorker

Original Poster:

51 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Hi mate, glad I'm not the only newbie on here!!!

911nutter

204 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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LondonPorker said:
Hi mate, glad I'm not the only newbie on here!!!


New to this site but i've had porsches for a few years now. Have you tried specialist cars for your service work? The mechanic there races porsches so knows what hes doing. Their rate is reasonable.

LondonPorker

Original Poster:

51 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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911nutter said:

LondonPorker said:
Hi mate, glad I'm not the only newbie on here!!!



New to this site but i've had porsches for a few years now. Have you tried specialist cars for your service work? The mechanic there races porsches so knows what hes doing. Their rate is reasonable.


No mate, new to Porsche ownership, after coveting them for so so long.My dad was dead set against 996's till he saw mine, he advised me not to buy a Porsche at all, but I went ahead anyway. It must be the no.1 supercar ever in my book, nothing to touch it really in all its different guises.

911nutter

204 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Yorkie997S said:
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I suppose every dealers got stories - good and bad. Been nothing but fair with me.

>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 13th October 21:40

Rob_T

1,916 posts

278 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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oi 911nutter - you're in trouble now.... that used to be my name until i sold (see profile)... i upset a lot of people with that name... you'd better run for cover!!!

rob05

1,194 posts

255 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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yorkie997s I,m in agreement with you with regards to your comments about that dealer my mate was handed the same treatment.Anyway long way to travel from london for a service.Ps good choice of car.

911nutter

204 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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Rob_T said:
oi 911nutter - you're in trouble now.... that used to be my name until i sold (see profile)... i upset a lot of people with that name... you'd better run for cover!!!


I was suprised that the name hadn't gone!!!

rob05

1,194 posts

255 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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I know its ridiculous,i've read a thread similar to this about these guys on phers anyway best stop here with this one i think.

LondonPorker

Original Poster:

51 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th October 2005
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you guys have lost me.....

supersport

4,609 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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Londonporker, I think the long and the short of it is that we have been waffling on about a dealer in XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, so somewhat out of the way for your local/cheap servicing query.

Am sure that there must be loads of em around you though.

Not particularly helpful, oops

>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 13th October 21:39

danww

6,914 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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supersport said:
... so somewhat out of the way for your local/cheap servicing query.

Am sure that there must be loads of em around you though.



Try RGA in Vauxhall - 7793 1447. Not "cheap" in absolute terms but half the price of an OPC and really good and helpful. They looked after my 944 beautifully and have my slightly bent 993 for repair at the moment.

Dan

dazren

22,612 posts

288 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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REMINDER

Can I just take this opportunity to remind people that we have a "no naming and shaming" rule on the site. It's in Section 2(iv) of the rules if you want to check it. (Link to the site rules can be found when you next post a message via the link to the right of the text entry box)

This rule is in place to protect this site from potential litigation rather than to protect any company you may have concerns about. If someone wishes to pass on negative experiences of any dealings that they may have had, will they please do so away from these forums.

thanks

DAZ
(A few postings on this thread have been amended/deleted to comply with the site rules)

>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 13th October 21:40

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

252 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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so what Daz is saying is - this is not a site for unbiased opinion, like it was originally intended for, if we have had a bad experience with a company be it service or sales, you cant post it here, only good comments are welcome.

Any negative views from past experience cant be posted here. True or not

The original concept of pistonheads being a “source of unbiast knowledge” are no more…… …. … …

ban me if you dont like my unbiased opinion, I couldn’t care less but I don’t agree to this.

And yes I get paid lots of money for digging up crap like this so if you don’t ban me, expect more if you keep spouting it! ban me and expect the legal team!

dazren

22,612 posts

288 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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Gary if you are not happy with the site rules then please feel free to take it up with the person who owns the site and sets them out. Either press the abuse report link or email him via his profile.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=65&t=212117&h=0

The normal way to get around the rule and keep the site out of it (aim of the no naming and shaming rule) is to just make a short post mentioning you've had dealings with X company and anyone who wants details should email you via your profile.

DucatiGary said:
And yes I get paid lots of money for digging up crap like this so if you don’t ban me, expect more if you keep spouting it! ban me and expect the legal team!

I'm quaking.

DAZ

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

330 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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Gary,

From my FAQ on the subject:



Ted said:

Why can't 'bad dealers' be outed etc?

Well, there are a number of reasons. Firstly it's simply a matter of fairness. All too often I've heard a 'horror' story about a dealer only to later talk to the dealer involved and find that there are considerably different views on what actually took place.

There are bad customers out there as well as bad dealers. Some people expect too much, distort the facts in their favour, etc. etc.

Who am I to act as judge and jury when someone posts something bad about a business? I can't verify the 'facts' as presented. If the dealer doesn't even know that the message has been posted then it's very unfair on their business to be slated in public with no opportunity to respond.

Even if the dealer does frequent this site, is it right that a dispute should be argued out in public? That's no way to resolve matters sensibly.

PistonHeads then becomes involved as a 'publisher' of what may be libelous, making matters even more complex.

Disputes are best dealt with in the real world through normal channels. Doing it online merely opens a can of worms for the person posting the message, for PistonHeads and for the business being discussed.

I've no desire to become embroiled in disputes and start providing transcripts of threads to solicitors (yes, it has happened).

Many people do not realise that they are opening themselves up to accusations of libel too. "But what I posted was true" is a frequent retort. That's as may be, but all too often emotions creeps into messages and people end up stepping over the line, putting themselves in a position where they could invite a whole heap of trouble.

So, the answer is that I ask people not to indulge in 'name and shame' discussions. It's the simplest solution I've found.




We've had the rule in place for some years now and it works very effectively. People's bad experiences with certain garages are effectively communicated via email resulting in owners getting the information they want without allegations that PH can't substantiate being made in the public domain.

I will also remind everyone that all users of PH are here by my invitation. This is a privately owned website on which I invite you to participate (subject to agreeing with our rules).

Should I wish to exclude anyone in the interests of maintaining fair and decent discussions or because someone is breaching our rules (which are legally sound) then I am perfectly entitled to do so.

So please let's all calm down and enjoy the site like the other thousands of members do.

Thank you.

verysideways

10,268 posts

299 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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DucatiGary,

We DO appreciate opinions (good or bad) - but if you want to say something bad simply say "i haven't had good experiences with them - mail me for details".

If you name and shame, and the dealer finds out, and takes PH (and Ted) to court, and shuts down PH as a result, we all lose a very valuable resource...