RE: Out of the Compact, into a Clio | PH Fleet
RE: Out of the Compact, into a Clio | PH Fleet
Thursday 13th August

Out of the Compact, into a Clio | PH Fleet

The PH Fleet has been without something fast and French for ages - time for Matt's first Renault to sort that


You might remember that this definitely wasn’t the plan at all. Money had been spent jazzing up the Japanrot Compact explicitly to stave off any temptation to replace it. For a while, it worked, too, the Alcantara wheel and gold rims a real treat on every trip. 

But plans change, and sometimes much sooner than expected. We found ourselves in a situation where a little bit of cash - little being the operative word - would be useful. A friend had always wanted first refusal on the BMW and, true to his promise, handed me £3,250 less than two days after I said I was thinking of selling. It was a great two years with the E46, and it’s gone to an even better home. I don’t miss it too much - yet. 

Then there was the fun bit: working out the replacement. Using a bit of Compact cash for the pot, I would top the rest up with a loan, hoping to spend around £10k. Four or five doors were essential, with two child seats now in the equation; an auto was a must also, to make my wife a little comfier behind the wheel (to be fair, an old BMW manual would put a lot of people off).

Beyond that, the requirements were fairly minimal: something a bit newer and still fun, basically. Working out what wouldn’t fit was a lot easier than figuring out what would; another BMW would be boring, as would a VW DSG - if a manual was going, I at least wanted a lever and paddles that were fun to use. Four-wheel drive was out of the question, too, a feature I don’t need and which just seemed like something else to go wrong.

Temptation lingered for a while on a big V8 saloon, but I’m just not brave enough for the moment. There’s enough stress with a newborn and a pre-schooler to be thinking about 20mpg and cylinder liners. Soon after was when Renaultsport came to mind, having enjoyed some time with a Megane LTer pre-pandemic. Sadly, those 280/300 era cars remain a bit out of budget, but the Clio - also the last of its kind - was definitely in reach. 

I’d always liked the 220 Trophy in period; it couldn’t match the Fiesta ST for sheer hooligan charm, but there was some real quality to the chassis and the gearbox changes usefully improved the experience over the standard 200 EDC. That made it more expensive, however, and ultimately quite rare: HowManyLeft puts the peak of Trophys at 770 in the UK. Even before the introduction of the Mk8 Fiesta, the same source shows 12,000 Fiesta ST-3s registered. 

So finding one wasn’t simple, made harder by selling the BMW so swiftly (thus making viewings harder). Plus, as anyone with young kids will tell you, there’s never enough time for car shopping. So when this one popped up not too far away, with the wheels I wanted, a good colour, the optional seats and some useful bits recently replaced, it was the right Clio Trophy for me. 

While there are a few bits and bobs to sort - a coolant leak being the main thing - I’m really chuffed so far. I think this era of Clio still looks great, a big buggy fits in the boot, and our four-year-old likes the upshift burps as much as me. My wife has already driven it more than in two years of having the old car, so that’s something. Whether it’s really as good as I remember can come next time - but the early signs are encouraging… 


FACT SHEET 

Car: 2016 Clio 220 Trophy
Run by: Matt Bird
On fleet since: July 2026
Bought for: £9,000
Mileage: 85,112
Last month at a glance: New car!

Author
Discussion

tramart50

Original Poster:

48 posts

69 months

Thursday
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I owned a 200 that turned out to be the UK Press launch car and did over 100k in it. Very under rated car and deceptively quick. Brakes and oil was all that ever needed changing. Id have another if I didn't now have a Megane 275.

mjspencer348

109 posts

3 months

Thursday
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Great choice. If they offered them new today then I dare say they'd sell like hot cakes, but that's a discussion for another day... hope it works out well for you.

cerb4.5lee

43,857 posts

208 months

Thursday
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Enjoy it Matt! driving

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The Rotrex Kid

34,556 posts

188 months

Thursday
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Trophy is the one to have. I sold quite a few 200/220 in this generation. Launch control is hilarious if you haven’t tried it out yet thumbup

Radio/nav is a bit clunky but great except that.

S600BSB

8,125 posts

134 months

Thursday
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Much better.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,905 posts

71 months

Thursday
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Need to free up cash, so sell the car and buy one nearly times the price?

croyde

26,180 posts

258 months

Thursday
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Same shifter paddles as my Alpine A110 biggrin

The Rotrex Kid

34,556 posts

188 months

Thursday
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LightweightLouisDanvers said:
Need to free up cash, so sell the car and buy one nearly times the price?
‘Using a bit of Compact cash for the pot, I would top the rest up with a loan’

Grand in, bit of finance, newer car with a monthly payment and a few grand in his pocket.

BUG4LIFE

2,512 posts

246 months

Thursday
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I really like these. Good chance I’ll replace my R55 Cooper S with a facelift Trophy (yellow please), when they hit £10k(ish). I’ll be very interested in hearing how you get on.

Spidermoor

124 posts

35 months

Thursday
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No. Just no. 🤨

pb8g09

3,186 posts

97 months

Thursday
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Using a bit of Compact cash for the pot, I would top the rest up with a loan

Grand in, bit of finance, newer car with a monthly payment and a few grand in his pocket.
What’s the monthlies on a £8/9k loan in today’s interest rates? Can’t be far out from £150 a month over 5 years - and we know he won’t keep it that long- so there’s definitely a lot of man maths at play here….

Mr Tidy

30,989 posts

155 months

Thursday
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Shame the Compact has gone Matt, but the Clio probably suits your requirements a bit better.

Although I'd have been looking for a BMW 130i. laugh

fantheman80

2,554 posts

77 months

Yesterday (06:46)
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mjspencer348 said:
Great choice. If they offered them new today then I dare say they'd sell like hot cakes, but that's a discussion for another day... hope it works out well for you.
Trophy one to have for sure, They got a fair bit of a kicking at the time coming off the great 172-200, (gearbox, looks, and you could make it sound like a Clio V6 or GTR through the speakers ) but there was plenty of competition about of course. Now its near zilch so agree with you.

Edited by fantheman80 on Friday 14th August 06:53

Donovfarm

37 posts

68 months

Yesterday (07:39)
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Highly emotional purchase made using questionable man maths. Article then written knowing full well that the VP responsible for household finances and fun would be reading it at some point. Love it, top job!

S600BSB

8,125 posts

134 months

Yesterday (08:15)
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croyde said:
Same shifter paddles as my Alpine A110 biggrin
I was thinking the same! I think the audio control stalk thingy is the same too..

framerateuk

2,919 posts

212 months

Yesterday (08:37)
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S600BSB said:
I was thinking the same! I think the audio control stalk thingy is the same too..
Lots of the dash components are shared too, along with the air vents.

I did 24k in my Clio 220T over 2 years. It did a good job on the motorway stuff back and fore to work, and it was properly exciting to drive when you stuck it in manual/race and really drove it.

I had a few minor gripes - grabby brakes (I assume Renault compensating for the the lack of Brembos with a larger servo), very hard ride, and occasionally dimwitted gear choices in 'normal' mode. Sport improved things but it did tend to hang on too long. The car felt like it needed a "Normal+" in between the two.

It was however the car that made me realise that automatics are not for me. No slight on the gearbox itself, it was super fast, but I always felt I could make better gear choices than the car (not just this car, any auto) and went back to a manual Megane Cup afterwards.

Enjoy it though! If you're into the dual clutch/paddles thing then it's a properly fun car.

croyde

26,180 posts

258 months

Yesterday (09:43)
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S600BSB said:
croyde said:
Same shifter paddles as my Alpine A110 biggrin
I was thinking the same! I think the audio control stalk thingy is the same too..
As it was in my 1996 Megane 1.6e Coupe and my 2021 Dacia Duster. A slightly different one was in my 2025 Bigster.

I think they are genius and very intuitive.

I really miss that little module now that I'm in a MX5.

cw200

50 posts

177 months

Yesterday (10:03)
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croyde said:
S600BSB said:
croyde said:
Same shifter paddles as my Alpine A110 biggrin
I was thinking the same! I think the audio control stalk thingy is the same too..
As it was in my 1996 Megane 1.6e Coupe and my 2021 Dacia Duster. A slightly different one was in my 2025 Bigster.

I think they are genius and very intuitive.

I really miss that little module now that I'm in a MX5.
I've had 4 Renault's over the years (19, Laguna, 200 Cup, Meg E-Tech) and, as you say, I swear they have all had that exact same radio controller behind the steering wheel. Great bit of design and zero reason to change it.

smilo996

3,762 posts

198 months

Yesterday (10:27)
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85k on the clock, going to interesting to see how reliable it is. I reckon it will be fine. Renault have made some great cars in the past decade.

jonindorset

1,081 posts

272 months

Yesterday (10:59)
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All those naysayers! Good to see you also turned a little profit on the Compact. Ha!
I still have a few more bits floating around if the new owner is interested...
I get the Clio itch, I've never owned a French car but don't think I could go this recent, in spite of the risks.

Drive safe and enjoy. Jon