Test drove 3 TVR's!
Discussion
Gone and done the deed, I test drove a Tuscan S and a Sagaris and a Cerbera RR.
Firstly I have to honestly say, there isnt a way in heaven or earth these cars come close to my porscha's off the line traction, how in fred's name do they get their 0-60 times? 3.9 for 0-60 is wishful thinking, the Tuscan and Sagaris vibrated like an old transit van, the cerbera felt more planted but blipp the throttle and it was like opening a door and with king kong poking through, humungously (if the word exists) scary stuff.
I'm going to have to rethink this, these TVR's are not something to be taken lightly, I cant understand how people can drive these coffins on wheels on a daily basis, hat down to them I say.
If I do go for it, I will have to keep the porscha, its the only sensible route.
Out of the 3 I drove, I preferred the cerbera by a margin, felt tight and well planted, but the delivery of power was simply undriveable and traction just blatently wanders off on vacation the moment you push the throttle to the floor.
The Tuscan interior looked too bland, and the sitting position felt naff, the sagaris has a perfect seating position but the steering did not feel smooth, too twitchy for my liking and the bonnet was vibrating every chance it got, the tuscan sounded the sweetest at 6000rpms+, the cerbera sounded sublime at idle and quite easily popped and banged, to be honest it popped and banged all the time, you'd probably need an account with shell with all the unburnt fuel thrown out the rear.
British is brasher than ever.
Yes, I loved them all.
Now to convince the wife we need both, any volunteers?
Firstly I have to honestly say, there isnt a way in heaven or earth these cars come close to my porscha's off the line traction, how in fred's name do they get their 0-60 times? 3.9 for 0-60 is wishful thinking, the Tuscan and Sagaris vibrated like an old transit van, the cerbera felt more planted but blipp the throttle and it was like opening a door and with king kong poking through, humungously (if the word exists) scary stuff.
I'm going to have to rethink this, these TVR's are not something to be taken lightly, I cant understand how people can drive these coffins on wheels on a daily basis, hat down to them I say.
If I do go for it, I will have to keep the porscha, its the only sensible route.
Out of the 3 I drove, I preferred the cerbera by a margin, felt tight and well planted, but the delivery of power was simply undriveable and traction just blatently wanders off on vacation the moment you push the throttle to the floor.
The Tuscan interior looked too bland, and the sitting position felt naff, the sagaris has a perfect seating position but the steering did not feel smooth, too twitchy for my liking and the bonnet was vibrating every chance it got, the tuscan sounded the sweetest at 6000rpms+, the cerbera sounded sublime at idle and quite easily popped and banged, to be honest it popped and banged all the time, you'd probably need an account with shell with all the unburnt fuel thrown out the rear.
British is brasher than ever.
Yes, I loved them all.
Now to convince the wife we need both, any volunteers?
John-G said:
..and a Cerbera RR.
I preferred the cerbera by a margin,
Ditto
. The Cerb is tricky to put all the power down, but it's fun. Did you know you don't have to use full power the whole time? 
As you get used to it (quite a long process), you'd be surprised just how much power you get to put down. Still, 0-30 I would have been quicker in my old 3.2 Carrera, but 30-100 is a very different story: Unless you're in a 996TT or gt3, it's goodbye from him...
I guess a great combination is a 993/996 for everyday, and a Cerb for track/hooning/French trips.
John-G said:
Gone and done the deed, I test drove a Tuscan S and a Sagaris and a Cerbera RR.
Firstly I have to honestly say, there isnt a way in heaven or earth these cars come close to my porscha's off the line traction, how in fred's name do they get their 0-60 times? 3.9 for 0-60 is wishful thinking, the Tuscan and Sagaris vibrated like an old transit van, the cerbera felt more planted but blipp the throttle and it was like opening a door and with king kong poking through, humungously (if the word exists) scary stuff.
I'm going to have to rethink this, these TVR's are not something to be taken lightly, I cant understand how people can drive these coffins on wheels on a daily basis, hat down to them I say.
If I do go for it, I will have to keep the porscha, its the only sensible route.
Out of the 3 I drove, I preferred the cerbera by a margin, felt tight and well planted, but the delivery of power was simply undriveable and traction just blatently wanders off on vacation the moment you push the throttle to the floor.
The Tuscan interior looked too bland, and the sitting position felt naff, the sagaris has a perfect seating position but the steering did not feel smooth, too twitchy for my liking and the bonnet was vibrating every chance it got, the tuscan sounded the sweetest at 6000rpms+, the cerbera sounded sublime at idle and quite easily popped and banged, to be honest it popped and banged all the time, you'd probably need an account with shell with all the unburnt fuel thrown out the rear.
British is brasher than ever.
Yes, I loved them all.
Now to convince the wife we need both, any volunteers?
Well I dont know what you drove, but it wasnt a sorted Sagaris.
Off the line traction, no, none of them will keep with a 911 to 25mph ish. 3.9, isnt wishful thinking though, it is brutal clutch work and its 3.7 with a close ration box, with no need to change to 2nd.
The Sagaris shouldnt vibrate, mine certainly doesnt. I drive the Sagaris every day, to work and back and she is fine, a complete pussy cat. Only ever got the back squiggling twice, once was when I gave it the full works on a semi greasy road in 2nd for a friend in the passenger seat and the other time was over a small hillock in 2nd again on a greasy road earlier this week. Both times nothing scary. In terms of steering & handling, the Sagaris is a country mile ahead of the Cerby and the Tuscan, there is no comparison. The suspension geom. is in a different league to the Cerb and Tuscan 1. The Mk2 is better, but the only Tuscan that actually handles properly and is truly planted is the S.
Agree with you about the steering though, I think it is over assisted on the Sagaris, but apparently I am in a minority of one on that issue.
I a currently doing the opposite to you...questioning whether I need to keep my 997tt order on the basis of how good the Sagaris is.
DJC said:
Gone and done the deed, I test drove a Tuscan S and a Sagaris and a Cerbera RR.
Firstly I have to honestly say, there isnt a way in heaven or earth these cars come close to my porscha's off the line traction, how in fred's name do they get their 0-60 times? 3.9 for 0-60 is wishful thinking, the Tuscan and Sagaris vibrated like an old transit van, the cerbera felt more planted but blipp the throttle and it was like opening a door and with king kong poking through, humungously (if the word exists) scary stuff.
I'm going to have to rethink this, these TVR's are not something to be taken lightly, I cant understand how people can drive these coffins on wheels on a daily basis, hat down to them I say.
If I do go for it, I will have to keep the porscha, its the only sensible route.
Out of the 3 I drove, I preferred the cerbera by a margin, felt tight and well planted, but the delivery of power was simply undriveable and traction just blatently wanders off on vacation the moment you push the throttle to the floor.
The Tuscan interior looked too bland, and the sitting position felt naff, the sagaris has a perfect seating position but the steering did not feel smooth, too twitchy for my liking and the bonnet was vibrating every chance it got, the tuscan sounded the sweetest at 6000rpms+, the cerbera sounded sublime at idle and quite easily popped and banged, to be honest it popped and banged all the time, you'd probably need an account with shell with all the unburnt fuel thrown out the rear.
British is brasher than ever.
Yes, I loved them all.
Now to convince the wife we need both, any volunteers?
Well I dont know what you drove, but it wasnt a sorted Sagaris.
Off the line traction, no, none of them will keep with a 911 to 25mph ish. 3.9, isnt wishful thinking though, it is brutal clutch work and its 3.7 with a close ration box, with no need to change to 2nd.
The Sagaris shouldnt vibrate, mine certainly doesnt. I drive the Sagaris every day, to work and back and she is fine, a complete pussy cat. Only ever got the back squiggling twice, once was when I gave it the full works on a semi greasy road in 2nd for a friend in the passenger seat and the other time was over a small hillock in 2nd again on a greasy road earlier this week. Both times nothing scary. In terms of steering & handling, the Sagaris is a country mile ahead of the Cerby and the Tuscan, there is no comparison. The suspension geom. is in a different league to the Cerb and Tuscan 1. The Mk2 is better, but the only Tuscan that actually handles properly and is truly planted is the S.
Agree with you about the steering though, I think it is over assisted on the Sagaris, but apparently I am in a minority of one on that issue.
I a currently doing the opposite to you...questioning whether I need to keep my 997tt order on the basis of how good the Sagaris is.
I did not say the sagaris was a bad handler DJC, on the contrary, but the Cerbera felt a lot more solid, but I was told the cerbera was one of the last RR's so I'm assuming it was at an advantage of being meticulously put together? Being hand-built I would assume each one would have its own character?
I am still considering the Tuscan S, a cosmetic choice, exterior is absolutely stunning, untouchable. The Sagaris comes across as one of those cars you either like or hate, I cant get my head round all the cuts and cut off rear with chewed away arches, although the flashy dash is quite inspiring, the rest of the car comes across a beta version of something spectacular which jumped the gun into production, the salesman also advised me of the problems with speedbumps where the front diffuser has snapped off on a few. My boys love the Sagaris (a picture of one spread across their bedroom speaks for itself, the one of our porscha is bigger
) but the wife and I do consider our tastes a little more mature, for this reason the Sagaris could never be a car we could see ourselves driving around in, simply too pronounced/in-ur'face.John-G said:
Gone and done the deed, I test drove a Tuscan S and a Sagaris and a Cerbera RR.
Firstly I have to honestly say, there isnt a way in heaven or earth these cars come close to my porscha's off the line traction, how in fred's name do they get their 0-60 times? 3.9 for 0-60 is wishful thinking, the Tuscan and Sagaris vibrated like an old transit van, the cerbera felt more planted but blipp the throttle and it was like opening a door and with king kong poking through, humungously (if the word exists) scary stuff.
I'm going to have to rethink this, these TVR's are not something to be taken lightly, I cant understand how people can drive these coffins on wheels on a daily basis, hat down to them I say.
If I do go for it, I will have to keep the porscha, its the only sensible route.
Out of the 3 I drove, I preferred the cerbera by a margin, felt tight and well planted, but the delivery of power was simply undriveable and traction just blatently wanders off on vacation the moment you push the throttle to the floor.
The Tuscan interior looked too bland, and the sitting position felt naff, the sagaris has a perfect seating position but the steering did not feel smooth, too twitchy for my liking and the bonnet was vibrating every chance it got, the tuscan sounded the sweetest at 6000rpms+, the cerbera sounded sublime at idle and quite easily popped and banged, to be honest it popped and banged all the time, you'd probably need an account with shell with all the unburnt fuel thrown out the rear.
British is brasher than ever.
Yes, I loved them all.
Now to convince the wife we need both, any volunteers?
Well I dont know what you drove, but it wasnt a sorted Sagaris.
Off the line traction, no, none of them will keep with a 911 to 25mph ish. 3.9, isnt wishful thinking though, it is brutal clutch work and its 3.7 with a close ration box, with no need to change to 2nd.
The Sagaris shouldnt vibrate, mine certainly doesnt. I drive the Sagaris every day, to work and back and she is fine, a complete pussy cat. Only ever got the back squiggling twice, once was when I gave it the full works on a semi greasy road in 2nd for a friend in the passenger seat and the other time was over a small hillock in 2nd again on a greasy road earlier this week. Both times nothing scary. In terms of steering & handling, the Sagaris is a country mile ahead of the Cerby and the Tuscan, there is no comparison. The suspension geom. is in a different league to the Cerb and Tuscan 1. The Mk2 is better, but the only Tuscan that actually handles properly and is truly planted is the S.
Agree with you about the steering though, I think it is over assisted on the Sagaris, but apparently I am in a minority of one on that issue.
I a currently doing the opposite to you...questioning whether I need to keep my 997tt order on the basis of how good the Sagaris is.
I did not say the sagaris was a bad handler DJC, on the contrary, but the Cerbera felt a lot more solid, but I was told the cerbera was one of the last RR's so I'm assuming it was at an advantage of being meticulously put together? Being hand-built I would assume each one would have its own character?
I am still considering the Tuscan S, a cosmetic choice, exterior is absolutely stunning, untouchable. The Sagaris comes across as one of those cars you either like or hate, I cant get my head round all the cuts and cut off rear with chewed away arches, although the flashy dash is quite inspiring, the rest of the car comes across a beta version of something spectacular which jumped the gun into production, the salesman also advised me of the problems with speedbumps where the front diffuser has snapped off on a few. My boys love the Sagaris (a picture of one spread across their bedroom speaks for itself, the one of our porscha is bigger
The Cerby shouldnt feel more solid, the Sagaris is a lot more planted than a Cerby ever will be, puer suspension geom sees to that. Speedbumps are not generally a problem either, mine gets over them all (bar 2 really evil viscious nasty buggers, than even my old Mx5 scraped its arse over, behind work). The only Tuscan Id have is the 'vert S, I loathe the rest of the them and given the choice would take a 993 Targa over a Tuscan every time (except a tippytoestronic thingy one).
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