How long does F1 Clutch last?

How long does F1 Clutch last?

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dsgv6

Original Poster:

138 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Guys,

I know this has been discussed a few times but i'm trying to establish how long the clutch lasts on the 360 F1 on average.

I've heard all sorts of numbers from as high as 18000 miles down to just 1500 for those who abuse it.

Can you give me the benefit of your experience?

DSG

andy355

1,341 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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about 2000 miles then you have to throw the car away and buy a new one

seriously tho - i would suggest between 6 and 10k from what ive read. there are some which have lasted much longer. however, this would depend on drving style, amount of town driving etc. also there were different ecu's as the car developed. early 360 f1 clutches were supposed to be awkward to say the least.

i had a 355 f1 and enjoyed the f1 box. you do have to adapt your driving style tho, it has to be learned. i was always a bit worried about an actuator failure heading my way tho, thats a pretty exensive part

Big T

1,337 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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dsgv6 said:
I've heard all sorts of numbers.....down to just 1500 for those who abuse it
Whoever told you that had a manual

I've done approx 25K Mls in 2 years and had 2 clutches fitted....the first one was pretty close after picking it up and the second not that long ago..work it out...But I drive like Miss Daisy's older sister

They're 'bout one and a half a shot so don't worry about it..

dsgv6

Original Poster:

138 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Thanks guys, quite encouraging feedback really. Although i'd prefer a manual i shouldn't rule out a good F1 example in that case.

Now, colour combinations - Rosso/Crema for me i think. Dealer told me the other day that there are so many Red with Nero because normally customer's wives 'advise' that lighter colours will be harder to keep clean!

DSG

hosedoctor

664 posts

218 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Thats true,the light colour seats are a nightmare to keep clean,i had a Range Rover with parchment seats,never again!! My 360 is Grigio alloy with very dark blue,much easier to keep clean.

ferrari355gtb

1,867 posts

251 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Mine's done over 12k since it was last replaced (not all miles by myself) and it's still going strong. F1 is definately the way forward - the blip on the down change is worth it alone.

360stimo

701 posts

229 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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dsgv6 said:
Guys,

I know this has been discussed a few times but i'm trying to establish how long the clutch lasts on the 360 F1 on average.

I've heard all sorts of numbers from as high as 18000 miles down to just 1500 for those who abuse it.

Can you give me the benefit of your experience?

DSG


I changed mine after 15,000 miles !!!

Big T

1,337 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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ferrari355gtb said:
the blip on the down change is worth it alone.
..obviously with the SPORT button firmly pressed on

I have never driven in NON-SPORT mode though!!

>> Edited by Big T on Thursday 4th May 12:36

hosedoctor

664 posts

218 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Have you got Tubi`s fitted to your 360 tony??

porschedriver

50 posts

221 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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I heard that to get the best value out of the clutch you should keep it in sport (for quicker changes and so less slip) and avoid the automatic mode. Also selecting neutral as you approach lights and not selecting first until you pull away. Can anyone confirm?

Another tip when buying is that some garages can check the % wear on the clutch and so let you know how long it's going to be before you need to start thinking about it. I'm picking up a 360 F1 in 3 weeks time and it has 78% wear left.

weepee

214 posts

218 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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i,ve 12500 miles on mine and still going, best to stay in neutral at the lights. Also Sport mode only. its more forgiving the clutch.

weepee

214 posts

218 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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i,ve 12500 miles on mine and still going, best to stay in neutral at the lights. Also Sport mode only. its more forgiving on the clutch.

Big T

1,337 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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hosedoctor said:
Have you got Tubi`s fitted to your 360 tony??
And the rest

Big T

1,337 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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porschedriver said:
I heard that to get the best value out of the clutch you should keep it in sport (for quicker changes and so less slip) and avoid the automatic mode. Also selecting neutral as you approach lights and not selecting first until you pull away. Can anyone confirm?

Another tip when buying is that some garages can check the % wear on the clutch and so let you know how long it's going to be before you need to start thinking about it. I'm picking up a 360 F1 in 3 weeks time and it has 78% wear left.
Be careful cos I think the value can be tricked, could be wrong though. Best to look at invoices if any. I made this mistake when I picked mine up and I needed a new clutch only a few months after the purchase

Good luck with the purchase, I'm sure you will enjoy.

dsgv6

Original Poster:

138 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Great advice guys, thanks!

Interesting about the mode selection. Sounds like 'Sport' is the only way to drive it.

DSG

dj kam

177 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Big T said:
porschedriver said:
I heard that to get the best value out of the clutch you should keep it in sport (for quicker changes and so less slip) and avoid the automatic mode. Also selecting neutral as you approach lights and not selecting first until you pull away. Can anyone confirm?

Another tip when buying is that some garages can check the % wear on the clutch and so let you know how long it's going to be before you need to start thinking about it. I'm picking up a 360 F1 in 3 weeks time and it has 78% wear left.
Be careful cos I think the value can be tricked, could be wrong though. Best to look at invoices if any. I made this mistake when I picked mine up and I needed a new clutch only a few months after the purchase

Good luck with the purchase, I'm sure you will enjoy.



I don't think you can trick the TCU wear ratio. It does have a +/- tolerance of a couple of perecent but it's normally pretty accurate.

I've got a 360 F1 and main things to note are:

Keeping it in sport will help the clutch life as the changes are quicker with less slip. The downside to this is the suspension stays rock solid and if your going over bumpy surfaces regularly you'll end up replacing suspension bushes, ball joints, etc (common problem on 360)

The reason for sticking it in neutral at the lights is to preserve the life of the release bearing. The clutch only engages when the throttle is pressed.

Be positive when moving off as a slow start means more slip. You can also feel how well and when the clutch is engaging so just be sensible and read the car.

Clutch wear is not linear so you can not use current mileage since last clutch change to workout clutch life.

I would say 15 - 20k is easily achievable if driven well.

mhh

1,558 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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djkam's comments make sense to me. I sold my 04 e-gear Gallaro at 33,000km and the dealer said the clutch wear indicator was suggesting I would have got 50,000km from it - certainly, it was working perfectly. I used to put it in neutral at the lights and avoided feathering the clutch, instead favouring a quick take-up. No launch starts, though!

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

242 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Stupid question from a porky owner; why does the clutch only last c 15K? Do they not put any meat on it from the factory? Sounds like a cheap laser printer; supplied with a 'test toner'. Can't you buy a long life replacement?

ferrari355gtb

1,867 posts

251 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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porschedriver said:
I heard that to get the best value out of the clutch you should keep it in sport (for quicker changes and so less slip) and avoid the automatic mode. Also selecting neutral as you approach lights and not selecting first until you pull away. Can anyone confirm?

Another tip when buying is that some garages can check the % wear on the clutch and so let you know how long it's going to be before you need to start thinking about it. I'm picking up a 360 F1 in 3 weeks time and it has 78% wear left.


Yes. Also Sport mode slackens the traction control too ie more sideways movement.

porschedriver

50 posts

221 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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ferrari355gtb said:
porschedriver said:
I heard that to get the best value out of the clutch you should keep it in sport (for quicker changes and so less slip) and avoid the automatic mode. Also selecting neutral as you approach lights and not selecting first until you pull away. Can anyone confirm?

Another tip when buying is that some garages can check the % wear on the clutch and so let you know how long it's going to be before you need to start thinking about it. I'm picking up a 360 F1 in 3 weeks time and it has 78% wear left.


Yes. Also Sport mode slackens the traction control too ie more sideways movement.


Sideways movement! - I definitly need to get used to 400 BHP first before engaging sports mode then. I'm used to 280 BHP and 4WD (and I managed to spin that once - although, of course, not my fault at all).