Oh dear - one of you lot?
Oh dear - one of you lot?
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towman

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rpa.janwell

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259 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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Amazing. This was my Sagaris that was crashed on the way to le Mans in June: chassis damage etc etc. I'll post this on that thread, rather than carry it on here.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=281796

towman

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Tuesday 12th September 2006
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Sorry to hear your tal of woe.

Will be interesting to see what it sells for. Certainly from the pictures it doesn`t look as bad as it actually is. I suspect that sooner or later someone will be in touch with you for any service history.

As an aside, any idea why it`s not recorded as a "write off"?

rpa.janwell

1,653 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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It was recorded as a write off: category X if I remember correctly.
The chassis damage is such that a cost effective rebuild could not take place - it would be cheaper to buy a new car. Over 60% of original cost was reached in parts etc without any effort. While it doesn't look much, if you check out the other thread there is a fair assessment of the damage. I don't think anyone who posts on these forums would be too happy about getting into a car that badly damaged and then repaired - the idea of a chassis weld cracking off at speed doesn't bear thinking about.
Having been in the Inspection side offshore and subsea anything we use which has a shunt is cut up and discarded.
If money is not an issue, a bottom up rebuild is of course possible, as per track cars/LEMS/GT cars that are rebuilt on a monotonously regular basis.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

293 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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rpa.janwell said:
It was recorded as a write off: category X if I remember correctly.
The chassis damage is such that a cost effective rebuild could not take place - it would be cheaper to buy a new car. Over 60% of original cost was reached in parts etc without any effort. While it doesn't look much, if you check out the other thread there is a fair assessment of the damage. I don't think anyone who posts on these forums would be too happy about getting into a car that badly damaged and then repaired - the idea of a chassis weld cracking one off at speed doesn't bear thinking about.
Having been in the Inspection side offshore and subsea anything we use which has a shunt is cut up and discarded.
If money is not an issue, a bottom up rebuild is of course possible, as per track cars/LEMS/GT cars that are rebuilt on a monotonously regular basis.


Dangerous occupation... hehe


Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 12th September 10:33

towman

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Tuesday 12th September 2006
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Vesuvius 996 said:
rpa.janwell said:
cracking one off at speed doesn't bear thinking about.


Dangerous occupation... hehe


Mr Coffee, may I introduce you to Mr Keyboard?

towman

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Tuesday 12th September 2006
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rpa.janwell said:
It was recorded as a write off: category X if I remember correctly.


This is the bit I don`t understand. ABI category X is for a vehicle which has been subject to an insurance claim but which has sustained minimal or nil damage or which may have been repaired in accordance to manufacturers specifications, and therefore categorisation as pr the Code of Practice for the Disposal of Motor Vehicle Salvage does not apply.

This is really misleading for the poor sod who ends up buying it. If you were to assess the vehicle just by looking at the pics, it looks like only the bodywork is damaged.

rpa.janwell

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Tuesday 12th September 2006
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The radiator, oil reservoir etc etc were all shoved backwards, the front of the chassis was damaged, the rear damage rippled into the floor/roll cage etc etc. Apart from the cosmetic visible damage, there was a lot of internal damage. None to the occupants.
I am certain that was the category - but will check.

towman

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Tuesday 12th September 2006
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rpa.janwell said:
The radiator, oil reservoir etc etc were all shoved backwards, the front of the chassis was damaged, the rear damage rippled into the floor/roll cage etc etc. Apart from the cosmetic visible damage, there was a lot of internal damage. None to the occupants.
I am certain that was the category - but will check.


It`s given as Cat X on the salvage site. How very, very strange. It`s also shown as "not recorded".

BTW - I am in no way questioning your honesty here - it just seems like your insurers are not playing the game!

bigandclever

14,192 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th September 2006
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Sold for £15930.

rpa.janwell

1,653 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th September 2006
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Damn, could have messed about with that as a mule for a supercharged/intercooled etc etc Sagaris.

towman

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Wednesday 13th September 2006
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bigandclever said:
Sold for £15930.


Not yet it hasn`t !!

DJC

23,563 posts

258 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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towman said:
bigandclever said:
Sold for £15930.


Not yet it hasn`t !!


Rich?!

trackcar

6,453 posts

248 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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there looks nothing wrong with the car .. superficial glancing blows font and rear .. how on earth did that damage the chassis? A saggy chassis is about 3ft shorter than the outside of the car so there's a lot of crumpling of bodywork to do before it reaches anything solid .. very confusing write off.

rpa.janwell

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259 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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As above, plenty of damage: probably best to give HHC a shout if in doubt - they assessed the damage up front prior to the insurance inspection engineer arriving and reaching the same conclusion.

trackcar

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Thursday 14th September 2006
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lol yeh should have read your report first. amazing how the front looks virtually unharmed despite bending the front xmember..

rpa.janwell

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259 months

Wednesday 20th September 2006
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Went for 26K. Wonder where that will show up.
Drawing a very fine line for profitability there I think.