ISP with Spam Filter

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Patrick's dad

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220 posts

277 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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I'm in the Leeds area and am having shedloads of bother with spam, I've been getting 2-3000 spam e-mails per day for the last year or so. I assume this level of InBox crap is cos' my website attracts mass mailing tossers. Anyroad, my current ISP - Firstnet or Pipex does'nt claim to have a front end spam filter. Do any of the PH'ers out there know of and recommend a new ISP with spam filters??

Dave

Tripps

5,814 posts

273 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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BT/Yahoo! do, although it had a tendency to catch the odd newsletter or work e-mail, more than other filters I've used.

What mail client to you use, as that may junk mail filtering? Or you could install something third-party, I've started using SPAMfighter in the last week to catch the spam that Outlook misses and so far I'm very impressed.

But, with that much mail each day, is there any chance of just dropping the account and using something new?

BTW Are you picking all mail for a domain rather than just one account? I switched off the "catch all" facility for all my domains a few years bad as I was getting messages to randomly generated mailboxes which were a PITA.

zumbruk

7,848 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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Demon run Brightmail, which has cut my spam from several thousand a day to next to none - to the extent that I've stopped maintaining my own spam filters.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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Switch your domain hosting over to Register1, they've got spam handling.

Always best to back it up with a solution on your server as well though.

Patrick's dad

Original Poster:

220 posts

277 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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At the moment I'm using Cloudmark as a spam filter and it's pretty good, putting about 95% of crap in my spam folder. I've started to use an Xda 2 and may want to send and recieve e-mails whilst on site so I need filtering before I download e-mails.

Now I'm not the most techie chap when it comes to this stuff ( fibre optics is my game) but my domain: D-Comm.com maybe the problem as I seem to get junk addressed to all manner of things at D-Comm.com.
Whats this Catch All thing??


Thanks so far.

Dave

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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I do currently what you are planning on doing with your XDA.

If you mean what I think you mean with catchall is that you have a mailbox setup as patricksdad@d-comms.co.uk lets say.

Someone emails xjhg@d-comms.co.uk or thismailaddressdoesntexist@d-comms.co.uk then your mail server is delivering this mail via a catchall to the assigned email account which sounds like its patricksdad@d-comms.co.uk

So setup another email address and call it catchall@d-comms.co.uk and reroute the catchall to deliver unknown mailbox mail to that account.

This leaves patricksdad@d-comms.co.uk free from at least one 'layer' of spam. All spam that hits your mailbox directly from the outside should continue to be handled by Cloudmark.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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I would imagine that 99% of ISP's offer spam/virus filtering these days.

Tripps

5,814 posts

273 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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Plotloss said:
Someone emails xjhg@d-comms.co.uk or thismailaddressdoesntexist@d-comms.co.uk then your mail server is delivering this mail via a catchall to the assigned email account which sounds like its patricksdad@d-comms.co.uk

So setup another email address and call it catchall@d-comms.co.uk and reroute the catchall to deliver unknown mailbox mail to that account.
Depending upon how you receive your e-mail (your own server or collect from a mailbox) it may be possible to just remove the catchall altogether, so all the mail to random addresses is bounced rather than filling up an additional mailbox and possibly going against your storage limits.

The provider I use always provides a catchall faclity which routes to the site's creator, when I saw how much rubbish that could have me receive it got ditched very quickly.

onomatopoeia

3,471 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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I still run my Demon account for email and the optional spam filter is very good. However it does throw away the message from MSN that you are supposed to get to verify your email address for Messenger, so I still appear as "unverified".

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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Tripps said:
Plotloss said:
Someone emails xjhg@d-comms.co.uk or thismailaddressdoesntexist@d-comms.co.uk then your mail server is delivering this mail via a catchall to the assigned email account which sounds like its patricksdad@d-comms.co.uk

So setup another email address and call it catchall@d-comms.co.uk and reroute the catchall to deliver unknown mailbox mail to that account.
Depending upon how you receive your e-mail (your own server or collect from a mailbox) it may be possible to just remove the catchall altogether, so all the mail to random addresses is bounced rather than filling up an additional mailbox and possibly going against your storage limits.

The provider I use always provides a catchall faclity which routes to the site's creator, when I saw how much rubbish that could have me receive it got ditched very quickly.


You can and that is an option, however if a prospect guesses at an email address, which for example he has been referred, in such a system that potential client would be lost.

Tripps

5,814 posts

273 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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Plotloss said:
You can and that is an option, however if a prospect guesses at an email address, which for example he has been referred, in such a system that potential client would be lost.
This was always my worry, as after all we don't want to lose business, but if you get 1000+ spams a day (or 3000 in this case), searching through a mailbox for them is going to me a nightmare task. Hopefully if the e-mail bounces as the catchall doesn't exist the sender will do something like pick-up the phone or double-check the recipient address. Otherwise it may take a few days for you to go through your huge spam mailbox by which time the prospect may have gone cold, or worse still you accidentally delete their message as it sits between ones for viagra and porn.

To aid customers you can setup all likely mis-spellings of your name and pemutations of e-mail addresses (eg. rob@, robd@, rob.dabell@, r.dabell@, dabellr@ etc.) to forward to your main account then hopefully you catch all of these messages, this is especially useful if people often spell your name wrong.