Thoughts: Canon EF100-400 L vs Sigma 135-400?

Thoughts: Canon EF100-400 L vs Sigma 135-400?

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tertius

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Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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So I have more or less decided that my new years present to myself will be a replacement for my rather ordinary Canon 75-300 4.0-5.6 USM III lens

I'd like something a bit longer and higher quality so considering these two.

Any thoughts on relative merits of these two lenses? Obivously the Canon is more than twice the price, but will I, as a pretty average picture taker, notice/benefit from the difference?

For reference:

Canon is: EF100-400mm f4.5-5.6 L IS USM; £1042 eek at Warehouse Express
Sigma is: 135-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG APO; £427.99 at Warehouse Express



monkeyhanger

9,241 posts

255 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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If you can afford the Canon, go for it.

My first long zoom was the 135-400 and whilst it's a decent lens for the price, i suspect you will be disappointed in the long term. If you want a better alternative look at the Sigma 100-300 F4, a 1.4x Convertor and a good monopod.

I've had the 100-400L for just over a year and it's a superb lens but bear in mind it's not a low-light lens (f4.5-5.6) which is why i also have the Sigma 120-300 f2.8

Some 100-400 examples (Click on the pic to remove the PH "Squish" effect)

On a dull day at Snetterton last March...



Brands Hatch BTCC final round 2005. This was the first time i used the 100-400L..



Something from last Saturday at Croft...








Edited by monkeyhanger on Tuesday 2nd January 21:37

tertius

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Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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That pic of the bike is awesome ... convinced I think.

Gemm

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228 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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Do try the zoom of the Canon 100-400 before you buy as I know quite a few people who felt/feel uncomfortable with push/pull zoom action. But the quality of the glass is excellent. You could also consider Canon 400mm f5.6L too?

V6GTO

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255 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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£1042? Bloody bargain!
It's my main lens, I have it on the camera 90% of the time and I have several other good lenses. All this talk of being heavy makes me laugh...get some muscles you whimps! hehe

Martin.

Martin.

tertius

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Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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V6GTO said:
£1042? Bloody bargain!
It's my main lens, I have it on the camera 90% of the time and I have several other good lenses. All this talk of being heavy makes me laugh...get some muscles you whimps! hehe

Martin.

Martin.


Well its $1400 at J&R in New York, and I have a couple of trips coming up ... and its darn near two to the pound so ...


LongQ

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246 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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tertius said:

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Canon is: EF100-400mm f4.5-5.6 L IS USM; £1042 eek at Warehouse Express
Sigma is: 135-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG APO; £427.99 at Warehouse Express





iirc I saw the Canon advertised somewhere on line in the UK for just under a grand a week or so before xmas. Surprised me at the time.

The Canon-Outlet on eBay had a "refurb" going before xmas. They usually will have 12 months warranty from Canon but you don't see them often. It went for £795 as I recall.

Here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dl


te51cle

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261 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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monkeyhanger said:
I also have the Sigma 120-300 f2.8

How do you find that lens ? Is the quality sufficient for the price ? I was thinking of adding that and a 1.4x convertor to my collection.

anonymous-user

67 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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I second the 100-400.

Had mine for nearly two years now





A crop from the above pic

tertius

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Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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LongQ said:
tertius said:

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Canon is: EF100-400mm f4.5-5.6 L IS USM; £1042 eek at Warehouse Express
Sigma is: 135-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG APO; £427.99 at Warehouse Express





iirc I saw the Canon advertised somewhere on line in the UK for just under a grand a week or so before xmas. Surprised me at the time.

The Canon-Outlet on eBay had a "refurb" going before xmas. They usually will have 12 months warranty from Canon but you don't see them often. It went for £795 as I recall.

Here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dl




Know anything about these guys; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Digital-4-U

They have it for £900. New, in the UK.

monkeyhanger

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Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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te51cle said:
monkeyhanger said:
I also have the Sigma 120-300 f2.8

How do you find that lens ? Is the quality sufficient for the price ? I was thinking of adding that and a 1.4x convertor to my collection.


Put it this way..

The 100-400L is excellent. The Sigma is better

I have a 2x TC and the images need a little bit more sharpening but i've got some nice shots with it. I know a couple of people who use it with the 1.4x and they say the TC hardly affects image quality or AF speed at all.

vanman

133 posts

248 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2007
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I would use kerso on ebay(shop name flashcamera)If you dont go through ebay I think his price is £880.I just got a 24-70 2.8L from him,super service and very quick delivery.

tertius

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Wednesday 3rd January 2007
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Thanks for all the advice.

It turns out someone who works for me has the Canon which I'm going to borrow for a few days to see if I get on with it, before taking the plunge.

hab1966

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225 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2007
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Latest price ive seen from Kerso on the 100-400L is £860. P&P is about £10.

cannedheat

953 posts

288 months

Sunday 7th January 2007
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tertius said:
V6GTO said:
£1042? Bloody bargain!
It's my main lens, I have it on the camera 90% of the time and I have several other good lenses. All this talk of being heavy makes me laugh...get some muscles you whimps! hehe

Martin.

Martin.


Well its $1400 at J&R in New York, and I have a couple of trips coming up ... and its darn near two to the pound so ...




Don't forget the ~8% New York sales tax though. I picked up a 70-200 F4L IS over there at christmas and got hit by it. They don't include it in the sticker price and only tell you about it when you go to pay and it's too late to back down. Still, tax included everything is still vastly cheaper!!

crmcatee

5,761 posts

240 months

Sunday 7th January 2007
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But remember if you're visiting someone elsewhere in the States - buy it in NY and get them to ship out of state to where you're visiting - that way you don't pay the state tax..

tertius

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Wednesday 7th March 2007
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OK, so resurrecting this thread ...

As mentioned I borrowed the Canon 100-400 and to be honest was a bit underwhelmed by it. Took a fair few pics, but very few really grabbed me, and generally they didn't seem that sharp (user error no dount).

So, its put me off the Canon a bit (OK a lot).

SO I'm back to considering the Sigma 135-400 or even the 50-500.

Somehow I can't believe that the 50-500 can actually be good across that huge range but it does seem to be well reviewed.

Any further thoughts anyone would like to share?

V6GTO

11,579 posts

255 months

Wednesday 7th March 2007
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I'll stick my neck out...I havn't used those Sigmas but there's no way they'll be as good as the Canon. Not sharp?





Martin.

Famous Graham

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238 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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The 100-400 is a stonker for a zoom but I'm STILL in two minds about replacing my 400L

I'm tempted with the 300 and a pair of TCs....

RobDickinson

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267 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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How about the 70-200F2.8L and the 2.0 tele convertor?