993 clutch/fire thread- can't find it

993 clutch/fire thread- can't find it

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RichS

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351 posts

216 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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Evening all,

Was I dreaming or did someone start/comment on a thread about some poor chap's 911 (I think it was a 993) which had become a smouldering wreck on the hard shoulder of the motorway. The gist of the posts were that (a) someone suggested that we should all check whether some recall work had been done as the fire could have been occasioned by not so having done the work; (b) someone else said that when you get the recall work done you might as well get them to change the clutch as well as I think it wouldn't add much to the cost of doing the recall work, which would be covered by Porsche; and (c) then someone else said we were daft to link the fire to the recall work as it could have been a result of something completely different; then there was the comment that we thought it was at least a timely reminder to check we'd all had the work done. EXCEPT that it wasn't because I can't remember what the flippin' work was. And my 993's going into Camtune on Thursday for a service. Any help gratefully appreciated....

If I DID dream all this then please forgive me.

R

Pork_n_Beem

1,164 posts

227 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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Thoguht it was the engine wiring harness that caught fire

RichS

Original Poster:

351 posts

216 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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Ooh yes- just found this- thanks.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=279935&f=48&h=0&hw=engine+wiring+harness

But is there a connection between getting this replaced (don't think mine ever has been but will check with Porsche) and a discount to work on a new clutch? My clutch has (according to Peter Morgan who did the (very thorough) PPI) never been changed, and I'm at 82k miles.

Pickled Piper

6,349 posts

237 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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OK here are the facts;

Early 993s were the subject of a recall to replace the engine compartment wireharness. Said harness could become brittle and fail with the potential of causing a fire. The recall is still in operation and if you email your chassis number to your local OPC they will confirm if your vehicle needs it. Also, your handbook will have a stamp if it has been done. The wireharness change is FOC so no worries if your car needs it.

Someone started the rumour that if you were having the wireharness changed you may as well have the clutch changed as the engine will have to be removed. I believe this part to be a forum myth. However, I would be happy to be corrected if someone knows otherwise.

pp

verysideways

10,240 posts

274 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Well if they are taking the engine out anyway to do the wiring harness then they may as well have a look at your clutch, if it's more than half worn i'd suggest getting it changed because the additional labour will probably be negligible and hence FOC - all you'd need to pay for is a clutch pack.

Always worth asking if you're in that situation, right?

RichS

Original Poster:

351 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Sounds about right to me. Though the question is whether an indie will do the recall work. If not, the costs equation is whether a clutch pack plus fitting time at an OPC (with a discount because the engine is out anyway) is going to be more than getting the recall work done at the OPC and then, as a separate job, getting the indie to put in a relacement clutch. You'd like to think an OPC wouldn't be THAT much...

david hype

2,296 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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verysideways said:
Well if they are taking the engine out anyway to do the wiring harness then they may as well have a look at your clutch, if it's more than half worn i'd suggest getting it changed because the additional labour will probably be negligible and hence FOC - all you'd need to pay for is a clutch pack.

Always worth asking if you're in that situation, right?


VS. Now you`ve got me worried...

IIRC when I took mine in to the OPC following the recall they did it there and then. It took less than an hour and I am pretty sure the engine stayed in the car.

Can anyone verify if the engine must to come out to do this work?

phelix

4,449 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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david hype said:

IIRC when I took mine in to the OPC following the recall they did it there and then. It took less than an hour and I am pretty sure the engine stayed in the car.

Can anyone verify if the engine must to come out to do this work?


Did they actually change the harness or just check that the recall didn't apply to your car?

Porsche allocates 30 minutes to check the harness and 4-5 hours to swap it depending on with or without vario-ram and with or without AC.

Engine removal is not required.

david hype

2,296 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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phelix said:
david hype said:

IIRC when I took mine in to the OPC following the recall they did it there and then. It took less than an hour and I am pretty sure the engine stayed in the car.

Can anyone verify if the engine must to come out to do this work?


Did they actually change the harness or just check that the recall didn't apply to your car?

Porsche allocates 30 minutes to check the harness and 4-5 hours to swap it depending on with or without vario-ram and with or without AC.

Engine removal is not required.


That`s interesting...AFN (as it was) recalled my car via a personal letter in 2000, the letter contained all the correct numbers and details of the vehicle. I guess they did this as I am the second registered keeper and I had sent the new owner card to PCGB when I bought it.

Having been told it would take around an hour, I made an appointment to take it in and wait while the work was done. My car is pre Vario-ram and has no AC, they inspected and carried out the work in that glass booth to side of the reception. I understand that a cetain section of the loom was replaced, the engine stayed in the car and the whole job took as long as they said it would.

I thought that was all that was needed...Am I wrong?

Pickled Piper

6,349 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Ok so who started the engine out rumour? Go on own up.

pp

MauriceC2S

230 posts

257 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Pickled Piper said:
Ok so who started the engine out rumour? Go on own up.

pp


No, its just a rumour .. nobody owns rumours ... cheers, Maurice