Drove a 997 C4S yesterday
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Porsche offered me a 24-hour test drive on a C4S yesterday. Went down to Porsche East London, salesman virtually handed me the keys and said enjoy! So i did...
Took it around London and on some A roads... first impressions were that the car was significantly improved over my 996 C2 - suspension was softer and smoother, the extra 55 horses certainly were more audible and equally the application to the wheels more noticeable. The seats were very supportive and the interior looked like a 60k car should. All in all the car a little too perfect. It lacked driver involvement with all the electronic aids like PSM etc and the car just felt a bit numb in terms of experience.
Conclusion: I wouldn't buy one. As perfect as it was in every respect, an M3 would be just as good. The 997 seems to have been watered down, I guess abit like the 996 but even more so. Ok i didn't take it down any twisty B roads but my preference for my next Porsche would definitely be the 997 GT3. Gonna start saving now! On a side note, there was stunning orange 997 GT3RS in the showroom waiting to be picked up by it's new owner today - WOW - is all I can say.
? Yeah I think Porsche are obviously appealing to the masses now. It's like mah people say on here - the 911 is no longer an enthusiast's car - it's a car that will is driven by city exec's that uses it for daily commuting etc. If you want to get close the real 911 experience, the GT3 is the only all-round car to go for IMO.
type-r said:
Yeah I think Porsche are obviously appealing to the masses now. It's like mah people say on here - the 911 is no longer an enthusiast's car - it's a car that will is driven by city exec's that uses it for daily commuting etc. If you want to get close the real 911 experience, the GT3 is the only all-round car to go for IMO.
you forgot to add the RS on the end of GT3.
If you can drive my 997 2s to the limit then go for a gt3, its the next level of full on performance.
The point I am making is that if you turn all the driver aids off, how many pilots can take the 997 2s to the next level ie the gt3.
Ive done this time and again with bikes, I have a Ducati 748 and I consider mtself fast, but not the fastest, so I can bin riders on better/more powerful machines, but not the realy fast guys.
I am sure peole buy the top end gt3/rs without a hope in the world of touching the top of its performance.....You know the programme "all the gear and no idea"!!!
I have pi$$ed on 911s in my old elise..honest.
Better to spend the dosh difference on driver tuiton than waste a bucket load and only see 75%of the cars performance..it happens a lot.. Just my opinion thats all..
The point I am making is that if you turn all the driver aids off, how many pilots can take the 997 2s to the next level ie the gt3.
Ive done this time and again with bikes, I have a Ducati 748 and I consider mtself fast, but not the fastest, so I can bin riders on better/more powerful machines, but not the realy fast guys.
I am sure peole buy the top end gt3/rs without a hope in the world of touching the top of its performance.....You know the programme "all the gear and no idea"!!!
I have pi$$ed on 911s in my old elise..honest.
Better to spend the dosh difference on driver tuiton than waste a bucket load and only see 75%of the cars performance..it happens a lot.. Just my opinion thats all..
The 993 was for the mases..75000 units is hardly a rare motor, 996 at about 160000 units.
Most people are average thats why they make what they make, apart from gt3/rs, and for every 100 of them about 10% can drive to the level they were made for!!
Just feel like sticking my 2 pennys in today chaps.......
Most people are average thats why they make what they make, apart from gt3/rs, and for every 100 of them about 10% can drive to the level they were made for!!
Just feel like sticking my 2 pennys in today chaps.......
Steering on the 997C2 and 997C2S I have driven is definately a step back in terms of feel / involvement compared to a 996, or the Boxster 987S i drove straight afterwards. Feels light and a little numb. Having said that, very accurate and still damm nice by other manufacturers standards!
Never driven a 997C4S.
Never driven a 997C4S.
9hellheaven said:
If you can drive my 997 2s to the limit then go for a gt3, its the next level of full on performance.
The point I am making is that if you turn all the driver aids off, how many pilots can take the 997 2s to the next level ie the gt3.
Ive done this time and again with bikes, I have a Ducati 748 and I consider mtself fast, but not the fastest, so I can bin riders on better/more powerful machines, but not the realy fast guys.
I am sure peole buy the top end gt3/rs without a hope in the world of touching the top of its performance.....You know the programme "all the gear and no idea"!!!
I have pi$$ed on 911s in my old elise..honest.
Better to spend the dosh difference on driver tuiton than waste a bucket load and only see 75%of the cars performance..it happens a lot.. Just my opinion thats all..
The point I am making is that if you turn all the driver aids off, how many pilots can take the 997 2s to the next level ie the gt3.
Ive done this time and again with bikes, I have a Ducati 748 and I consider mtself fast, but not the fastest, so I can bin riders on better/more powerful machines, but not the realy fast guys.
I am sure peole buy the top end gt3/rs without a hope in the world of touching the top of its performance.....You know the programme "all the gear and no idea"!!!
I have pi$$ed on 911s in my old elise..honest.
Better to spend the dosh difference on driver tuiton than waste a bucket load and only see 75%of the cars performance..it happens a lot.. Just my opinion thats all..
Actually, the beauty of the new GT3 lies in its ability to deliver a really special driving experience at every level, whether on track or on the road at sub-legal limits. The feel and feedback through all of the controls are much more intimate than the mainstream models. You don't need to drive at the limit to appreciate this.
The Elise is similar - every turn and roundabout is fun.
Agree about the benefits of tuition though.
Edited by Geneve on Tuesday 30th January 13:16
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