RE: Audi R8 European first drive

RE: Audi R8 European first drive

Thursday 26th April 2007

Audi R8 European first drive

We drive Audi's new supercar in the south of France



“Damn,” I think. “I really must get some of those noise-cancelling headphones.” I’m on a plane, you see, desperately trying to watch – and listen to – Audi’s hard disk-based presentation on the R8. And then I realise the problem: the otherwise-slick vid, all 11 minutes of it, actually contains only one sweep past the camera without voiceover or soundtrack. Just one. Which means a total of, ooh, three seconds of engine noise?

It makes me suspicious, for we like the R8’s engine. At least, we like it in the RS4. So the prospect of something which looks this good with that 4.2-litre V8 mid-mounted has made us quite excited; impatient, even. I hand back the Archos box and resign myself to another hour of waiting.

R8 generates plenty of lateral grip
R8 generates plenty of lateral grip
This is our first chance to sample Audi’s supercar on European terrain, and the deserted D- and N-roads around Le Castellet are a pretty fair representation of what a British B would throw at the R8. There are bumps, broken asphalt, even Irish-style gravel at junctions.

This would normally pose a problem for Audi, because while it has a fair history of making belting engines, its chassis have frequently fallen short of their potential. The S-Line range, in particular, seems to be devoted to people with no liking for suspension whatsoever. So if the R8 is to succeed – if it is to stand any chance against Porsche’s 911 (at which it is squarely aimed, let’s face it) – then Audi has to prove that it can produce a chassis that’s both pliable and exploitable.

The engine certainly deserves that. Barely an hour and five seconds after my mid-flight drama, I get the chance to open up that V8 and the result is… just a little underwhelming. Cue another panic attack: I’m not saying the in-cabin sounds aren’t delightful, it’s just that they’re a little, well, refined. And we don’t want refinement, in that area at least. We want the R8 to be the defining moment of this engine. We want kids in the Bogota School for the Hard of Hearing to ask what all the noise is when you find a stretch of empty road. In Yorkshire.

V8 is dry sumped - unlike RS4
V8 is dry sumped - unlike RS4
It’s time to open the windows, then feel the noise. And it works. Somehow, a bit of exhaust reverb makes all the difference here. There’s no doubt that Audi has made the V8 a little peaky to extract that 414bhp, and the engine– aurally and in performance terms – feels a tad sleepy beneath 4000rpm. Thereafter, however, it becomes visceral - a thudding, angry brute screaming for the red line with force, but never losing the oily smoothness its cutting edge technology affords it. It’s great, in other words.

And the handling? Think ‘safe’ and you won’t go far wrong. I guess that while the 911 has a history of being a bit of an animal, and therefore has to deliver at least part of that to live up to its reputation and to excite its core fans, the R8 can fall back on Audi’s motorsport history, which to most of us is based on Quattros running rings around two-wheel-drive cars. Accordingly, don’t expect to squeeze the throttle and bring the rear around to aid turn-in, because this is a car that prefers to grip solidly – mightily in fact - and simply go where it’s pointed. The steering is direct and the R8 certainly finds apexes better than any front-engined Audi (perish the thought that it wouldn’t) but it doesn’t offer much in the way of genuine feel as to what’s happening down at road-level. Overall, the interaction and sense of adjustability found in the most exploitable and rewarding sportscars is not quite there, but at the same time, what considerable fun there is to be had is easily accessible.

Another superb Audi interior
Another superb Audi interior
Is that a problem? For the 1200 people who’ve pre-ordered the R8, clearly not. At least the ride is on a par with the RS4: even with the magnetic ride option set to ‘sport’, it’s comfortable enough to cruise along on motorways, yet agile and pliable enough for fairly bumpy B-roads.

The whole process is helped by a decent manual ‘gate’ six-speed gearbox which is a little notchy, perhaps, but quick enough, once you get your bearings. And if the thought of heeling and toeing fills you with dread (and a warning, the Audi’s brake pedal is so aggressively servo-ed that even a mid-eighties F1 driver would struggle), the R-tronic sequential automatic gearbox will make equally rapid (if slightly more brutal) upchanges, then blip for you on the way back down.

Does that sound like a kop-out? Perhaps it is. And yet, an ‘easy’ way of looking good is exactly what this car is all about. The R8 is a creation that successfully breaches the gap between head-turning, street-stopping supercar looks, and the usability and dependability of the 911. Which is no small achievement. Combine that with an exquisite interior which feels like it could survive an assault from the Brentford ASBO Society, and the case for the R8 gets ever stronger.

R8 has decent ride quality too
R8 has decent ride quality too
When all’s said and done, this is probably the best Audi since the original ur-Quattro, which means ever. Does it match a 911 for tactile driving brilliance? Probably not. But it runs in a damn close second, and the rest of the package – those looks, a bizarre amount of practicality and an interior that Stuttgart simply can’t match – make a very persuasive argument over the old stager. It surprises me not one jot that Audi cannot keep up with initial demand.

Indeed, my only real gripe is that the R8 suffers from a bit of a self-consciousness complex, as if someone in Ingolstadt felt it had a little too much going for it in the looks department and decided not to make 100 per cent use of that engine’s aural brilliance, so as not to appear cocky.

Personally, I think it should stand up and shout about it. Something this good deserves to be seen and heard. By everyone, if possible.





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Author
Discussion

dodgey_rog

Original Poster:

1,986 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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I want one!!!! Now!!!!

mafioso

2,353 posts

216 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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The white one looks the best!

bad_roo

5,187 posts

239 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Do I look happy? Oh yes.

mc_blue

2,548 posts

220 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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That interior looks simply superb - slightly like an 80s BMW interior.

kieran2006

5,986 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Seems like a decent car and all that but it doesn't fill me with any desire to own one. Whenever I see it I just think 'over grown TT'.

mc_blue

2,548 posts

220 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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kieran2006 said:
Seems like a decent car and all that but it doesn't fill me with any desire to own one. Whenever I see it I just think 'over grown TT'.


Until I see one my opinion is very similar.

jman

4 posts

285 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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I've just seen my second r-8 on the road. I didn't know that they are on the road. They look really cool in the flesh.

Mr Whippy

29,159 posts

243 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Love the outside, but that interior around the driver. Looks a bit droopy and as if the designer fell asleep the further from the dash he got.

That driver centric swoopy look worked ok in the NSX but only just. Here it looks really naff next to the nice form of the S8 and RS4 interiors for example...

Dave

ravell

1,181 posts

214 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Love the look of the car, especialy the interior. Bit of a shame the engine is so silent. Nothing a good sport exhaust won't fix though.

bob1179

14,108 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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I love the interior of that car! Why don't BMW make driver focused consoles anymore? I also like the rest of the package, although I don't think I would buy one. It just doesn't quite do it for me, though I may change my mind when I finally see one in the flesh...

mvm

25 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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I have seen the R8 only once yet and although I liked it, it did not impress me as much as I first thought it would. The car does have a distinct 'presence' but it doesn't look all that much different from the regular Audi TT.

When reading about the design philosphy off the R8, the resemblance with that of the Honda NSX is striking. Aluminum body, mid-engined, naturally aspirated engine with high specific output, double wishbone suspension, easy to drive and use, high daily practicality. And even dimensionally, the R8 is very close to the NSX. However, whereas the NSX set new marks in exotic sportscar upon its introduction, the R8 seems to fall short. Despite its aluminum body, the R8 is quite heavy and the V8 engine simply is needed to get the required performance.
So in the end, the R8 for me doesn't really show 15 years of development of automative technology. It certainly is a nice addition to the current line of high-performance sportscars but also nothing more.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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kieran2006 said:
Seems like a decent car and all that but it doesn't fill me with any desire to own one. Whenever I see it I just think 'over grown TT'.
IMO you are spot on. Having driven the car twice that is exactly what it felt like - absolutely no involvement or 'soul'. Good but nothing to tug the heart strings and make me want to go for 'just another blast'. My car was due to be one of the first but I cancelled my order.

I also have to say I don't know why PH bother with these 'Reviews' they always seem lightweight and leave me wondering if the guy actually drove the car. They're not helped by being accompanied by Audi press shots rather than actual pictures of the supposed test either. IMO they read like the sort of thing you get in the 'motoring section' of one of the tabloids. Much better to read about it in one of the heavyweight car mags IMO.



Edited by Pugsey on Thursday 26th April 09:06

johng1

3,474 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Since VW owns Lamborghini could they shoe horn the Gallardo V10 into one of these for a more aurally challenging vehicle??

Looks pretty though apart from the panel in front of the rear wheels. I would think about buying a V10 version, but for the moment I will stick with the 997 C2S...

mc_blue

2,548 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Good point, I think they are making a V10 and a diesel version.

Diverted

56 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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kieran2006 said:
Seems like a decent car and all that but it doesn't fill me with any desire to own one. Whenever I see it I just think 'over grown TT'.


I agree. Also creates a bad association with the product placement in the film 'I, Robot', both of which I really didn't like. The R8 seems to divide opinion, wonder where it'll settle. It wouldn't be the first car to get rave reviews at press launch and then sink when faced with a wet British B road...

adam towler

62 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Pugsey said:


I also have to say I don't know why PH bother with these 'Reviews' they always seem lightweight and leave me wondering if the guy actually drove the car. They're not helped by being accompanied by Audi press shots rather than actual pictures of the supposed test either. IMO they read like the sort of thing you get in the 'motoring section' of one of the tabloids. Much better to read about it in one of the heavyweight car mags IMO.


Sorry to hear you weren't a fan of the test Pugsey. To be fair, the piece was billed as a 'first drive' and not a full 'road test', and therefore the 1000 word type article you read here is typical of what most mags/websites will generate from a launch event. I can assure you we did drive the car in France . Sadly, it's not always possible for us to take our own photographs.
Interesting comments though. As the new Editor, I'm reviewing everything we do, so I'd love to hear any thoughts you - or anyone else out there for that matter - have on how we can improve what we offer. Just PM me and tell me what you'd like to see.idea

best regards,

AT
Ed

xtr2turbo

1,533 posts

233 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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I'm not too sure where this car is being placed.

It's too tame and compromised to be knocking at the enthusiasts door but probably too expensive for someone looking to move on from their TT.

I bet the deposits are largely misplaced speculators and can't see there being a deep rooted demand for this car.

David

bad_roo

5,187 posts

239 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Two squashy bags will fit in the front

Pugsey

5,813 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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bad roo - blimey, that's the first time I've had a road test published just for me!! Bit like Harrods opening privately for the queen. Good stuff too. I think you've pretty much summed up how I felt after driving the car and why I cancelled my order. The comparisons you make a particularly relevant to me also as my previous cars were M3, then 997S, AMV8 and finally 997GT3. You and I have dicussed this before and as you know I think if I was a 997tt customer I'd go for the R8 over the Porsche - although with the forthcoming V10 lump. The Audi's interior alone makes the Porker look a bit sad for the money.

Anyway thanks for that mate - although I guess a few people other than me might read it though!

er, since posting above your write up seems to have disappeared - perhaps the original writer DID take offence!


Edited by Pugsey on Thursday 26th April 12:10

Pugsey

5,813 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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adam towler said:
Pugsey said:


I also have to say I don't know why PH bother with these 'Reviews' they always seem lightweight and leave me wondering if the guy actually drove the car. They're not helped by being accompanied by Audi press shots rather than actual pictures of the supposed test either. IMO they read like the sort of thing you get in the 'motoring section' of one of the tabloids. Much better to read about it in one of the heavyweight car mags IMO.


Sorry to hear you weren't a fan of the test Pugsey. To be fair, the piece was billed as a 'first drive' and not a full 'road test', and therefore the 1000 word type article you read here is typical of what most mags/websites will generate from a launch event. I can assure you we did drive the car in France . Sadly, it's not always possible for us to take our own photographs.
Interesting comments though. As the new Editor, I'm reviewing everything we do, so I'd love to hear any thoughts you - or anyone else out there for that matter - have on how we can improve what we offer. Just PM me and tell me what you'd like to see.idea

best regards,

AT
Ed
Cheers AT and probably fair comment. Brave man asking for further comment - you know there's an army of 'experts' out here!