Youngsters in business...
Discussion
Just wondering how many of the younger PH crowd have started their own business?
Has anyone found that their age can hinder their progress at all?
On the other side do older business people take youngsters more seriously these days or do people not feel comfortable parting with a lots of money to a kid?
I think that its changing and more people are happy to deal with younsters (obviously it depends on what the individual is like and what the business is) but sometimes I feel that it is a disadvantage.
Young to me is 18 - 25 year olds.
Has anyone found that their age can hinder their progress at all?
On the other side do older business people take youngsters more seriously these days or do people not feel comfortable parting with a lots of money to a kid?
I think that its changing and more people are happy to deal with younsters (obviously it depends on what the individual is like and what the business is) but sometimes I feel that it is a disadvantage.
Young to me is 18 - 25 year olds.
Yep i'm 23 and find it had to make my voice heard and that s after 6 years in the busness. just be right a few times and make your point they soo learn you're not an idiot. it is tricky though. i've worked with people who don't think you know anything untill your nose hair joins up with your ear hair and i'm a long way form that age.
I spent my twenties pretending I was in my thirties when it came to some customers...
The good news is, chaps, that when you get to 40 in IT you are the grand old man who's been around a bit and "knows". Trust me - I'd rather be 18-25 again - but there you go.
Speaking as an older IT businessman (by now) I am very happy to deal with "youngsters". Its what they know, what they can achieve and whether or not the (smaller) amount of experience is directly relevant to what I want done that matters.
The good news is, chaps, that when you get to 40 in IT you are the grand old man who's been around a bit and "knows". Trust me - I'd rather be 18-25 again - but there you go.
Speaking as an older IT businessman (by now) I am very happy to deal with "youngsters". Its what they know, what they can achieve and whether or not the (smaller) amount of experience is directly relevant to what I want done that matters.
I started when I was 25 and the first customer that I won was Motorola (still a customer) so it can be done.
I didn't think it was a problem back then but at 25 you're usually pretty cocky anyway. Looking back it may have been an issue but you don't know because customers don't say I didn't give you the work because you are too young.
I didn't think it was a problem back then but at 25 you're usually pretty cocky anyway. Looking back it may have been an issue but you don't know because customers don't say I didn't give you the work because you are too young.
One of my first clients are big although I just cant help to think that the old bat on the other end of the phone doesnt want to know as i'm young. (very few cases)
I have been in sales for some years now and my telephone manner I think is very good - it does annoy me though that some do seem to not like/trust/want to listen to us younsters.
It isnt really hindering the business just one of those things that bug me
Although only 21 I think that times have changed (I cant really speak for years ago) but what with the internet etc it is easyier to make money young i think...
What do you think?
I have been in sales for some years now and my telephone manner I think is very good - it does annoy me though that some do seem to not like/trust/want to listen to us younsters.
It isnt really hindering the business just one of those things that bug me
Although only 21 I think that times have changed (I cant really speak for years ago) but what with the internet etc it is easyier to make money young i think...
What do you think?
SAM_R said:
Although only 21 I think that times have changed (I cant really speak for years ago) but what with the internet etc it is easyier to make money young i think...
What do you think?
Naah. Its the same as ever it was. Gates wasn't exactly and old biffer when he convinced firm after firm to take Microsoft's BASIC Interpreter as the language and operating environment of their new PC. When he blagged IBM that he could PC-DOS for 'em...the rest is history.What do you think?
SAM_R said:
One of my first clients are big although I just cant help to think that the old bat on the other end of the phone doesnt want to know as i'm young. (very few cases)
I have been in sales for some years now and my telephone manner I think is very good - it does annoy me though that some do seem to not like/trust/want to listen to us younsters.
It isnt really hindering the business just one of those things that bug me
Although only 21 I think that times have changed (I cant really speak for years ago) but what with the internet etc it is easyier to make money young i think...
What do you think?
To an extent. Ebay etc have allowed people to create business online, whereas without it they would not have. Also, affliation has generated large sums of money for people. But, quick .com opportunities are running out. Unless its your unique product or business, where online sales will always be rife, as long as people want it!I have been in sales for some years now and my telephone manner I think is very good - it does annoy me though that some do seem to not like/trust/want to listen to us younsters.
It isnt really hindering the business just one of those things that bug me
Although only 21 I think that times have changed (I cant really speak for years ago) but what with the internet etc it is easyier to make money young i think...
What do you think?
SAM_R said:
One of my first clients are big although I just cant help to think that the old bat on the other end of the phone doesnt want to know as i'm young. (very few cases)
I have been in sales for some years now and my telephone manner I think is very good - it does annoy me though that some do seem to not like/trust/want to listen to us younsters.
It isnt really hindering the business just one of those things that bug me
Although only 21 I think that times have changed (I cant really speak for years ago) but what with the internet etc it is easyier to make money young i think...
What do you think?
Hey, this might be of interest to you BBC2 7pm :I have been in sales for some years now and my telephone manner I think is very good - it does annoy me though that some do seem to not like/trust/want to listen to us younsters.
It isnt really hindering the business just one of those things that bug me
Although only 21 I think that times have changed (I cant really speak for years ago) but what with the internet etc it is easyier to make money young i think...
What do you think?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/programme.sht...
I started my business when I was 22 and am still going strong over six years later.
I started with virtually no experience or contacts, but on the other hand I had no mortgage, no kids, no wife etc. depending on me.
The point the OP makes about any problems with people not wanting to pay youngsters is offset by going Limited and being VAT registered from the off. It creates the impression that you're taking it more seriously than just a sole trader.
I started with virtually no experience or contacts, but on the other hand I had no mortgage, no kids, no wife etc. depending on me.
The point the OP makes about any problems with people not wanting to pay youngsters is offset by going Limited and being VAT registered from the off. It creates the impression that you're taking it more seriously than just a sole trader.
chas100 said:
detchibe said:
I'm 19 and have been trading for a year
I decided to go Ltd, partly to show that I'm not a fly-by-night as there are many in IT.
Nice one. Hows it going?I decided to go Ltd, partly to show that I'm not a fly-by-night as there are many in IT.
Edited by detchibe on Friday 1st June 18:37
As I take no money out of the company I do half a week + evenings of private work vs. half a week of part-time work. Luckily jobs such as web design, programming, installs are fairly flexible, so it works out okay!
V8 EOL - Rich said:
My customers are mostly over 50. I am 29 and grow a beard to make my self look older! How sad is that?
Same here, I'm currently cultivating an abundance of facial hair Edited by detchibe on Friday 1st June 20:22
detchibe said:
chas100 said:
detchibe said:
I'm 19 and have been trading for a year
I decided to go Ltd, partly to show that I'm not a fly-by-night as there are many in IT.
Nice one. Hows it going?I decided to go Ltd, partly to show that I'm not a fly-by-night as there are many in IT.
Edited by detchibe on Friday 1st June 18:37
As I take no money out of the company I do half a week + evenings of private work vs. half a week of part-time work. Luckily jobs such as web design, programming, installs are fairly flexible, so it works out okay!
Edited by detchibe on Friday 1st June 20:19
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