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rfisher

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5,024 posts

285 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Trying to get an old IBM laptop (thinkpad 380ED) running Win98 to access the internet via my WGT624 Netgear router and Zyxel broadband modem.

I've got a 3com pcmcia ethernet card and lots of ethernet cable but I can't get it to work.

Is there some setup I need to do on the laptop once the ethernet card software has loaded?

Ta.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

237 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Ohh bloody hell... erm...
Start > Control Panel > Network? Sorry it's been a while for Win98, but basically you need to go in to the properties of TCP/IP for that network card and tell it to "Assigned Automatically" on everything to do with the first tab.

Actually, if the little two computers icon is down the bottom by the clock, double click that for instant shortcut goodness.

After it's finished faffing around, it should try to pull an IP from the router, I belive Start > Run > command will get you a prompt and ifconfig should work (hopefully). If it says 169.blah something is up with either the network card, the drivers, the port on the router or the cable.
Make sure you're getting a link light on both ends and that the router is set to do dhcp.

If you're getting 192.168.blah then the router is issuing the IP's properly and you need to look at the configuration of it so it'll talk to your modem.

rednotdead

1,216 posts

228 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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You need Start-Run-winipcfg not ipconfig

Apart from that, wot he said above...........

Edited by rednotdead on Sunday 10th June 16:22

detchibe

471 posts

224 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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rednotdead said:
Apart from that, wot he said above...........

Edited by rednotdead on Sunday 10th June 16:22
He?! hehe

rfisher

Original Poster:

5,024 posts

285 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Thanks.

No lights either on the card adapter cable thing that tells you if it's 10 or 100mbs or the router.

Think the card and slot may be 16 bit not 32 so maybe it's time for the bin?

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

237 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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detchibe said:
rednotdead said:
Apart from that, wot he said above...........

Edited by rednotdead on Sunday 10th June 16:22
He?! hehe
I swear to god I should change my nick on here to titsnarse... MEN! GRRR! hehe

rfisher said:
Thanks.

No lights either on the card adapter cable thing that tells you if it's 10 or 100mbs or the router.

Think the card and slot may be 16 bit not 32 so maybe it's time for the bin?
Try a different length of cable and make sure Windows is detecting the card properly.


Edited by ThePassenger on Monday 11th June 01:40

GreenV8S

30,270 posts

286 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Do your router or PC have lights to show when the ethernet is connected? If they have and neither of them are showing signs of life, it may be you have got a crossover cable instead of straight, or vice versa.

rfisher

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285 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Yes there are lights to show connection and I was wondering if I've got the correct cable.

I'm using cat5 straight (twisted pair) cable.

I use the same type to connect the modem and router.

Should I be using a crossover cable?

GreenV8S

30,270 posts

286 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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rfisher said:
Yes there are lights to show connection and I was wondering if I've got the correct cable.
Well, do the lights show that you do have a connection?

rfisher

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285 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Errr just to clarify.

There are lights present but they are not lit indicating no connection.

GreenV8S

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286 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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rfisher said:
Errr just to clarify.

There are lights present but they are not lit indicating no connection.
Cable not working then, so perhaps it's the wrong spec (crossed instead of uncrossed, or vice versa).

K77-widow maker

910 posts

261 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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how about from a command prompt, pinging 127.0.0.1 and seeing if you get a reply.

If you do then your nic is working and the problem is further down the line.

The Griffalo

72,857 posts

241 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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K77-widow maker said:
how about from a command prompt, pinging 127.0.0.1 and seeing if you get a reply.

If you do then your nic is working and the problem is further down the line.
Not quite... You know your IP stack is alive but the HW can still have a problem....

rfisher

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5,024 posts

285 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Still confused about the ethernet cable - crossover or straight?

As it's all old gear, including the 3com card, I presume it won't automatically switch the cable connection itself if it's the wrong cable type as newer hardware can.

K77-widow maker

910 posts

261 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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The Griffalo said:
K77-widow maker said:
how about from a command prompt, pinging 127.0.0.1 and seeing if you get a reply.

If you do then your nic is working and the problem is further down the line.
Not quite... You know your IP stack is alive but the HW can still have a problem....
Hi Rob, long time no see......(BTAP 2005)

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

237 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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rfisher said:
Still confused about the ethernet cable - crossover or straight?

As it's all old gear, including the 3com card, I presume it won't automatically switch the cable connection itself if it's the wrong cable type as newer hardware can.
Exactly. Old n' busted. You'll need to give it a helping hand.

SneakyNeil

9,243 posts

239 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Do the start/run/winipcfg thing above, if the 3com card isn't listed in the drop down box at the top then the drivers aren't working/installed properly. If it is, the problem is elsewhere. If you list everything thats listed in control pannel/network I might be able to make some suggestions.

The Griffalo

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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K77-widow maker said:
The Griffalo said:
K77-widow maker said:
how about from a command prompt, pinging 127.0.0.1 and seeing if you get a reply.

If you do then your nic is working and the problem is further down the line.
Not quite... You know your IP stack is alive but the HW can still have a problem....
Hi Rob, long time no see......(BTAP 2005)
wavey