HELP !!! Key out & engine still running !!!! BMW 330cd
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Hi , help needed ASAP !!!!
Last friday , was driving my BMW 2006 330cd , yes diesel and it nearly killed me .. ended up in A&E with bad chest/throat and numb lips .
The car threw out black smoke and flames thru the exhaust and it filled with a yellowy acrid smoke .
Had to be plucked out by a passing motorist as i had to get it from 70mph to the kerb so i was pretty overcome with fumes !
Trouble is that i pulled the key out of the ignition and the engine was still revving !
I NEED TO KNOW IF THERES ANYTHING SIMILAR ON THE INTERNET ????
Any past cases with similarities , or any serious incidents , as i dont really want the car back when its fixed as i wont feel safe in it . (could have killed me!)
Trouble is its on finance and im stuck for another 18 months
Whispers
Last friday , was driving my BMW 2006 330cd , yes diesel and it nearly killed me .. ended up in A&E with bad chest/throat and numb lips .
The car threw out black smoke and flames thru the exhaust and it filled with a yellowy acrid smoke .
Had to be plucked out by a passing motorist as i had to get it from 70mph to the kerb so i was pretty overcome with fumes !
Trouble is that i pulled the key out of the ignition and the engine was still revving !
I NEED TO KNOW IF THERES ANYTHING SIMILAR ON THE INTERNET ????
Any past cases with similarities , or any serious incidents , as i dont really want the car back when its fixed as i wont feel safe in it . (could have killed me!)
Trouble is its on finance and im stuck for another 18 months
Whispers
Wish there was the button to do that !!!!!
.... its the cabriolet , so the model is really a 2005 (204bhp) as the ragtops only come out late on .
When i got it last March 2006 the new 234bhp diesel 330 was out in the 3 series saloon , whereas the cab' wasnt due with that engine for at least 12 months we were told .
.... its the cabriolet , so the model is really a 2005 (204bhp) as the ragtops only come out late on .
When i got it last March 2006 the new 234bhp diesel 330 was out in the 3 series saloon , whereas the cab' wasnt due with that engine for at least 12 months we were told .
Sounds like an oil issue, a diesel will quite happily run on oil fumes & rev its nads off with everything else switched off. Was a common problem on some other cars can't remember which though.
Could be a blown turbo oil seal, headgasket but most likely a blocked breather system that allowing a crank case to vent into the intake.
Could be a blown turbo oil seal, headgasket but most likely a blocked breather system that allowing a crank case to vent into the intake.
Turbo seals have gone and its running on the engine oil, if you have stalled the engine with the cluch to stop it reving its nuts off you may get away with just a new turbo (aprox 2k fitted) if not the the engine will rev till its run out off sump oil NOT GOOD
Not a uncommon fault and normally caused by bad servicing the BMW has a fillter/oil trap fitted inside the rocker cover if its not changed when serviced it causes uneven presure in the engine and that leads to turbo oil seals going !
Not a uncommon fault and normally caused by bad servicing the BMW has a fillter/oil trap fitted inside the rocker cover if its not changed when serviced it causes uneven presure in the engine and that leads to turbo oil seals going !
I'd suggest removal of soft intake hoses first, look for traces of oil in the tracts, a little would be normal, if there are pools of it or obvious mass contamination that'll be the problem. Next is to find the cause which could be a combination of things...
First: Check the breather system thoroughly, if a breather is blocked crank case pressure has to go somewhere. If no obvious blockage check for excessive crank case pressure caused by piston blow by (worn or broken piston rings) or a holed piston worst case. Did your dipstick ever pop out?
Did the car smoke at all before, did it use oil? if so when & under what circumstances
First: Check the breather system thoroughly, if a breather is blocked crank case pressure has to go somewhere. If no obvious blockage check for excessive crank case pressure caused by piston blow by (worn or broken piston rings) or a holed piston worst case. Did your dipstick ever pop out?
Did the car smoke at all before, did it use oil? if so when & under what circumstances
Google said:
split crankcase breather hose or split diaphragm in cyclone separator on earlier cars
Hi ,
Thanks for the replies , i now understand what has happened .
However this car is is only 15 months old from new , it has the remainder of the 3 year uk warranty left on it , so it will be fixed FOC by BMW .
I'd like to know how to go about asking to exchange it for another vehicle from BMW as i'll never feel 'safe' in it again ..... It has a 3 year finance deal with BMW UK and there is no way to change or get out unless i sell it and pay off the balance or i p/x it for a more expensive BMW .
I dont want to shell out anymore money , really i dont want it back at all ... Rather they kept it , i had a different Bmw , kept the payments the same (or less of course!) and let the finance package run its course , another 21 months .
ANY IDEAS PLEASE ?????
Thanks for the replies , i now understand what has happened .
However this car is is only 15 months old from new , it has the remainder of the 3 year uk warranty left on it , so it will be fixed FOC by BMW .
I'd like to know how to go about asking to exchange it for another vehicle from BMW as i'll never feel 'safe' in it again ..... It has a 3 year finance deal with BMW UK and there is no way to change or get out unless i sell it and pay off the balance or i p/x it for a more expensive BMW .
I dont want to shell out anymore money , really i dont want it back at all ... Rather they kept it , i had a different Bmw , kept the payments the same (or less of course!) and let the finance package run its course , another 21 months .
ANY IDEAS PLEASE ?????
Hi ,
Thanks for that , i know its an uphill one !!!
Its just that if it had fully caught fire , or someone hadnt pulled me out then id have either fried in there or choked to death .
I just dont want it back incase it does happen again !
BMW must know the seriousness of it as Friday evening the out of hours car replacement offered us a Micra or Corsa which we courtiously declined ..... Then 9am Saturday we had a call to say a brand new '3' series was on its way from Manchester to us and as soon as they could they'd send a coupe as that was the closest to the convertable we have .
Thanks for that , i know its an uphill one !!!
Its just that if it had fully caught fire , or someone hadnt pulled me out then id have either fried in there or choked to death .
I just dont want it back incase it does happen again !
BMW must know the seriousness of it as Friday evening the out of hours car replacement offered us a Micra or Corsa which we courtiously declined ..... Then 9am Saturday we had a call to say a brand new '3' series was on its way from Manchester to us and as soon as they could they'd send a coupe as that was the closest to the convertable we have .
Similar thing happend to my Dads Mondeo TDI. The gasket went I think and huge amounts of black smoke came out of the exhaust and the engine went mental and wouldnt turn off even with the key out.
I was in my car and he was following, it was quite a scary event. We just got my Mum and the dog out and legged it. It stopped in the end.
I was in my car and he was following, it was quite a scary event. We just got my Mum and the dog out and legged it. It stopped in the end.
Ford Escort and early Mondeo diesels were reknowned for such behavior.
As above, stop the car, handbrake and footbrake on, stick it in top gear and dump the clutch and it should stall stopping the problem.
All very easy to say with the calm air that being sat at a key board rather than a smoking car brings!
Sounds like a right nasty one, the smoke filling the cabin would make me very nervous in said car even once repaired. That's not something I've come across in situations of "oiling" before.
As above, stop the car, handbrake and footbrake on, stick it in top gear and dump the clutch and it should stall stopping the problem.
All very easy to say with the calm air that being sat at a key board rather than a smoking car brings!
Sounds like a right nasty one, the smoke filling the cabin would make me very nervous in said car even once repaired. That's not something I've come across in situations of "oiling" before.
Andrew D said:
emicen said:
As above, stop the car, handbrake and footbrake on, stick it in top gear and dump the clutch and it should stall stopping the problem.
Aha! A cunning plan...But what should you do if it's an automatic? Proceed straight to Stage 3: running?
They probably mean that the damage to the fuel pump facilitated the oil leak that allowed the engine to run on oil once it had stopped injecting diesel.
I assume it's an approved used car, and that you haven't put any petrol in it; in which case I'd tell them that I hadn't put any petrol in it, must be a previous owner.
I assume it's an approved used car, and that you haven't put any petrol in it; in which case I'd tell them that I hadn't put any petrol in it, must be a previous owner.
Edited by Andrew D on Wednesday 27th June 16:54
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