Dink's day in the aeroplanemuseum
Discussion
A day's out with the kiddo's. What better way to spent it than drive off to the Aviodrome: Neherlands biggest plane museum. An impression:
The first Fokker kit 'Spin3' to fly around the Haarlem St. Bavo church: augustus 31th 1911.
Love those big radial plane-engines. There's so much to see. Here's an early one.
It's really amazing only a few years after the Wright bros had their first take-off WW1 gave us such wonderfull planes, with guns shooting through the blades and all that. A Fokker invention BTW.
Wonderfull nice wooden prop.
Dunno what this one is but it looks nice. Just a box with an engine in, a bit of canvas and some rope . . .
Famous Wright R-1820 Cyclone engine as in the Dakota planes. Some phat 890 horses from 1823 cubic inch.
Wiki says: "The R-1820 was at the heart of many famous aircraft including the early Douglas airliners (prototype DC-1, the DC-2, earliest civilian versions of the DC-3, and the limited-production DC-5), B-17 Flying Fortress and SBD Dauntless bombers. The R-1820 also found limited use in armored vehicles in two forms. The G-200 was a 9-cylinder gas-burning radial that developed 900 hp @ 2,300 rpm and powered the M6 Heavy Tank. The Wright RD-1820 was converted to a diesel by Caterpillar Inc. as the D-200 and produced 450 hp @ 2,000 rpm in the M4A6 Sherman."
Cool stuff.
Look at this nice Fokker freighterplane engine. Jets are so . . . dull compared to this
There's more for next time.
The first Fokker kit 'Spin3' to fly around the Haarlem St. Bavo church: augustus 31th 1911.
Love those big radial plane-engines. There's so much to see. Here's an early one.
It's really amazing only a few years after the Wright bros had their first take-off WW1 gave us such wonderfull planes, with guns shooting through the blades and all that. A Fokker invention BTW.
Wonderfull nice wooden prop.
Dunno what this one is but it looks nice. Just a box with an engine in, a bit of canvas and some rope . . .
Famous Wright R-1820 Cyclone engine as in the Dakota planes. Some phat 890 horses from 1823 cubic inch.
Wiki says: "The R-1820 was at the heart of many famous aircraft including the early Douglas airliners (prototype DC-1, the DC-2, earliest civilian versions of the DC-3, and the limited-production DC-5), B-17 Flying Fortress and SBD Dauntless bombers. The R-1820 also found limited use in armored vehicles in two forms. The G-200 was a 9-cylinder gas-burning radial that developed 900 hp @ 2,300 rpm and powered the M6 Heavy Tank. The Wright RD-1820 was converted to a diesel by Caterpillar Inc. as the D-200 and produced 450 hp @ 2,000 rpm in the M4A6 Sherman."
Cool stuff.
Look at this nice Fokker freighterplane engine. Jets are so . . . dull compared to this
There's more for next time.
dinkel said:
A day's out with the kiddo's. What better way to spent it than drive off to the Aviodrome: Neherlands biggest plane museum. An impression:
The first Fokker kit 'Spin3' to fly around the Haarlem St. Bavo church: augustus 31th 1911.
Love those big radial plane-engines. There's so much to see. Here's an early one.
Good photo's Dink! Tecnically this is a rotary engine yes it is radial but it differs in that the crank is static and the prop is connected to the crankcase which rotates.The first Fokker kit 'Spin3' to fly around the Haarlem St. Bavo church: augustus 31th 1911.
Love those big radial plane-engines. There's so much to see. Here's an early one.
dinkel said:
dinkel said:
It's really amazing only a few years after the Wright bros had their first take-off WW1 gave us such wonderfull planes, with guns shooting through the blades and all that. A Fokker invention BTW.
Dink it was a Frenchman who first fired a machine gun through the prop, but he used steel wedges to deflect the bullets from the prop blades (very dodgy!). As you say Fokker developed a interupter system based on the position of the prop which stopped the machine gun firing when a blade came close to the 12 O'clock position.dinkel said:
Dunno what this one is but it looks nice. Just a box with an engine in, a bit of canvas and some rope . . .
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So you are a plane-buff as well Graeme? That's even more to talk about when at SpaF then.
Oh yes, more planeporn.
Very nice cut-up. While the girls were playing - running around and playing hide 'n seek between the big planes - dad could admire craftmenship and shoot some.
There's your turbo-prop, Fokker 27 friendship if I'm correct. First glued together metalplated plane.
Dakota's are famous over here. They dropped all the goodies back in spring '45 you know.
A famous name in dutch aviation history on the side of this trainer: Fokkers last pres.
Love those box-letters. They make great micro-livery.
Next: there's way more. Some outside stuff as well
Wallpapers:
Antonov An-2
Catalina
Connie and Uiver DC3
Uiver
Oh yes, more planeporn.
Very nice cut-up. While the girls were playing - running around and playing hide 'n seek between the big planes - dad could admire craftmenship and shoot some.
There's your turbo-prop, Fokker 27 friendship if I'm correct. First glued together metalplated plane.
Dakota's are famous over here. They dropped all the goodies back in spring '45 you know.
A famous name in dutch aviation history on the side of this trainer: Fokkers last pres.
Love those box-letters. They make great micro-livery.
Next: there's way more. Some outside stuff as well
Wallpapers:
Antonov An-2
Catalina
Connie and Uiver DC3
Uiver
Edited by dinkel on Monday 6th August 21:53
VetteG said:
Love those big radial plane-engines. There's so much to see. Here's an early one.
Despite reading up on them a little bit I still can't quite get my head around rotary engines (I believe the Gnome is an example, yes?). Whilst it's not too difficult to grasp the idea that in a conventional engine only the crank rotates, therefore in a rotary only the crank stays still, I can't get my head around how the fuelling system works if the cylinder heads are whizzing around a stationary crank. Or have I got all that completely arse about tit?
Could anybody please spell it out for me in terms a noddy like me can understand? Ta!
Thanks for the nice pics Dink. I can't wait to go and have another pore over the planes at Duxford
Edited by minimoog on Monday 6th August 22:48
I've been to Hendon-London a few years ago. Great RAF and Luftwaffe stuff. Seeing the Tempest 'n Typhoon and their 24 cilinder mills was a real treat. Those are my WW2 favs along with the FW190.
Nice view on the Friendship and turboprop.
You gotta love Howard Hughes' Constellation. This is the famous Flying Dutchman recreation.
Amazing development started as early as 1939. The military C69-version saw service in '43.
KLM started the Amsterdam-New York flights in 1946. Still 5 Connie's are airborn today.
This Dutch Constellation is a VC-121A (46-0612) and originally a military L-749A
It was operational from '49 to '67 and bought from a Canadian company in 1993. The cockpit is not yet original.
Beautifull tailwing with nice livery as in the 50's.
Luverly small Kolibri chopper. The prop has a jet to propel it
Next: more outside stuff and WW2.
Nice view on the Friendship and turboprop.
You gotta love Howard Hughes' Constellation. This is the famous Flying Dutchman recreation.
Amazing development started as early as 1939. The military C69-version saw service in '43.
KLM started the Amsterdam-New York flights in 1946. Still 5 Connie's are airborn today.
This Dutch Constellation is a VC-121A (46-0612) and originally a military L-749A
It was operational from '49 to '67 and bought from a Canadian company in 1993. The cockpit is not yet original.Beautifull tailwing with nice livery as in the 50's.
Luverly small Kolibri chopper. The prop has a jet to propel it
Next: more outside stuff and WW2.
Did you check my Merlin-engined Bentley-topic a few months ago Graeme?
I'm drinking a perfect mild '86 Malt at the moment BTW. Will you smuggle some straight casks to Spa? Small samples will do No pubs around the track you know 
Big Antonov:
This Antonov An-2 is the biggest single engined plane. From 1947 to 1991 18.000 were built. Take-off run: 170 m, landing run: 215 m (these may vary depending on weight).
This big bi-plane is powered by a 1000-horsepower 9-cylinder Shvetsov ASh-62 radial engine, which was developed from the Wright R-1820. Nice orange Dakota in the background BTW.
Some exhaust! A 30 mins flight in this 12-seater costs 75 euro's. Next time I'll bring friends and have some airtime
I'm drinking a perfect mild '86 Malt at the moment BTW. Will you smuggle some straight casks to Spa? Small samples will do
No pubs around the track you know Big Antonov:
This Antonov An-2 is the biggest single engined plane. From 1947 to 1991 18.000 were built. Take-off run: 170 m, landing run: 215 m (these may vary depending on weight).
This big bi-plane is powered by a 1000-horsepower 9-cylinder Shvetsov ASh-62 radial engine, which was developed from the Wright R-1820. Nice orange Dakota in the background BTW.
Some exhaust! A 30 mins flight in this 12-seater costs 75 euro's. Next time I'll bring friends and have some airtime
Edited by dinkel on Thursday 9th August 20:44
There's the nice orange Dakota again.
Petite Cessna was young Dinks dreamflight . . .
. . . untill the Spit came along. Cannons!
Big alu Alied transporter . . .
. . . can't match the presence of . . .
. . . big Dzjerman transporter
Kids playing all the time. Dad snapping . . .
There's more . . . Saab Viggen and Jumbo to come.
Heidi (my wife) and I were offered a flight over Winterswijk today!
The owner of a Jag XJS who took part on the Klassiekerrally last year wanted to thank us that way. We couldn't resist!
Check here
All looks so neat and tidy from up there. And you have no clue about the speed: 180 km/h doesn't look that fast in a plane.
Winterswijk and the surrounding area is pretty green too...
I put circles 'round my kids waving at us (not a very sharp pic), our house and car and arrows pointing at the meadow on which the KR will take place.
Big thanks to mr. Gussinklo!
The owner of a Jag XJS who took part on the Klassiekerrally last year wanted to thank us that way. We couldn't resist!
Check here
All looks so neat and tidy from up there. And you have no clue about the speed: 180 km/h doesn't look that fast in a plane.
Winterswijk and the surrounding area is pretty green too...
I put circles 'round my kids waving at us (not a very sharp pic), our house and car and arrows pointing at the meadow on which the KR will take place.
Big thanks to mr. Gussinklo!
Edited by Klassiekerrally on Saturday 11th August 22:15
The Spit a rep? How can you tell?
Another Annie-2, nice pic by Klassie. We should threat ourselves with a flight in this biggie.
Inside it's huge: packed with kids playing fighterpilots here.
The sky said: come fly into me! Next time for sure.
Saab Viggen at close range.
It's a gorgeous jet, in great livery and dazzle painting this one. Canard wings and all that.
I always preferred the mighty Phantom but the Saab is climbing on my fav-list here.
What's this then? Other than a Roller powered stuntplane . . .
I'm not a huge fan using wide-angle but the Jumbo is so effing huge . . .
. . . you got to use it! The blue is a so well chosen corporate identity colour. Also I don't pay that much attention to a plane when travelling. It's a good thing one can at this aeroplane-museum.
Next: last piccies . . .
Another Annie-2, nice pic by Klassie. We should threat ourselves with a flight in this biggie.
Inside it's huge: packed with kids playing fighterpilots here.
The sky said: come fly into me! Next time for sure.
Saab Viggen at close range.
It's a gorgeous jet, in great livery and dazzle painting this one. Canard wings and all that.
I always preferred the mighty Phantom but the Saab is climbing on my fav-list here.
What's this then? Other than a Roller powered stuntplane . . .
I'm not a huge fan using wide-angle but the Jumbo is so effing huge . . .
. . . you got to use it! The blue is a so well chosen corporate identity colour. Also I don't pay that much attention to a plane when travelling. It's a good thing one can at this aeroplane-museum.
Next: last piccies . . .
Nice pics.
The orange Dakota is actually a DC-3 (the Dakota was a development of the DC-3). When WW2 started, Holland was neutral and it was decided to paint their civilian aircraft in bright orange colours with the word "Holland" in bold letters on the side. Shortly before the war, Fokker had received a licence from Douglas to assemble DC-3s for European customers at their Schiphol factory. The first Aer Lingus DC-3s were actually assembled by Fokker.
That "German Transporter" is, in fact, a Junkers Ju-53/3m. Indeed, it may even be a post war licence built version. They were manufactured by Amiot in France and Casa in Spain.
The silver "Allied Transporter" is a Douglas DC-4 (or motre likely, a military variant called the Douglas C-54).
I don't think that the aircraft referred to as an SE-5A IS an SE-5A, although I'm not really sure what it is.
There was no such aircraft as the Fokker Albatros. Fokker and Albatros were two separate manufacturers who made completely different aircraft. They both, however, supplied aircraft to the Imperial German Air Service.
The "roller powered stuntplane" looks like a YAK-52 or possibly one of its Chinese copies.
The orange Dakota is actually a DC-3 (the Dakota was a development of the DC-3). When WW2 started, Holland was neutral and it was decided to paint their civilian aircraft in bright orange colours with the word "Holland" in bold letters on the side. Shortly before the war, Fokker had received a licence from Douglas to assemble DC-3s for European customers at their Schiphol factory. The first Aer Lingus DC-3s were actually assembled by Fokker.
That "German Transporter" is, in fact, a Junkers Ju-53/3m. Indeed, it may even be a post war licence built version. They were manufactured by Amiot in France and Casa in Spain.
The silver "Allied Transporter" is a Douglas DC-4 (or motre likely, a military variant called the Douglas C-54).
I don't think that the aircraft referred to as an SE-5A IS an SE-5A, although I'm not really sure what it is.
There was no such aircraft as the Fokker Albatros. Fokker and Albatros were two separate manufacturers who made completely different aircraft. They both, however, supplied aircraft to the Imperial German Air Service.
The "roller powered stuntplane" looks like a YAK-52 or possibly one of its Chinese copies.
Edited by Eric Mc on Saturday 11th August 22:58
Eric Mc said:
The "roller powered stuntplane" looks like a YAK-52 or possibly one of its Chinese copies.
I have no idea what it is Eric, but its not a Yak-52 or a Nanchang CJ6 ( aka "Wok-52" )- to be honest it looks like a practical joke - various bits of aircraft welded together by the apprentices in the maintenance shop.For the record - the CJ6 isn't a copy of the Yak-52, its a copy of the Yak-18, the 52's predecessor.
Edited by eharding on Saturday 11th August 23:21
Klassiekerrally said:
FourWheelDrift said:
You do know that one is a replica?
How can you see that? And as what did it start it's life?It started life as a pile of plastic and metal.
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