Open wheelers

[srob]

I was wondering what the policy was with running open wheeled cars at trackdays?

Can you run them at most events or are there specialist days that you would have to go to?

Was thinking an old Formula Ford or simlilar would be good fun.

[BertBert]

most events (basically all commercial track days) preclude open-wheelers as they are too dangerous.
Bert

[LocoBlade]

Yep not many allow them at all, and those that do will generally only run them in seperate sessions to everything else. Not sure about this, but I think its mostly down to the insurance companies dictating that they won't offer insurance to the TDO with single seaters on track.

[BertBert]

the open-wheel-ness is a big cause of up and overs (cue Eddie Waring) when open wheels come together.
Bert

[Kubica]

There was this thing at Donnington last friday that looked like a formula Renault or something (it had wings) but had little cycle guard covers over the wheels. Don't know what it was but it definitely had a Yamaha engine and was yellow. I'll see if I've got any pics of it, but it was allowed to run in the open pit lane session with all the tin-tops.

[Kubica]

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[BertBert]

in anorak mode, that looks like a very rare and desirable Radical Clubsport with a two-seat conversion at the back there!

Bert

[LocoBlade]

Kubica, that's an MK Sprint R which is a road legal BEC and therefore is allowed on trackdays regardless, even though its a single seater. The same wouldnt apply to a converted FFord etc even if it had the same cycle wings unless you could make it road legal

[BertBert]

LocoBlade said:

Kubica, that's an MK Sprint R which is a road legal BEC and therefore is allowed on trackdays regardless, even though its a single seater. The same wouldnt apply to a converted FFord etc even if it had the same cycle wings unless you could make it road legal

I am not sure that is the case. Non-road legal cars are allowed at most regular track days (strangely not airfields in the main though). So I think that a suitably be-mudguarded FF would be allowed. I have seen exactly that at Donington (either BaT or the other lot IIRC).

Bert

[Kubica]

LocoBlade said:

Kubica, that's an MK Sprint R which is a road legal BEC and therefore is allowed on trackdays regardless, even though its a single seater. The same wouldnt apply to a converted FFord etc even if it had the same cycle wings unless you could make it road legal

Thanks for that Chris!

[Kubica]

MK Sprint R website said:

turn key cars from £11500, kits from £5500

(goes to check down the back of the sofa)

[LocoBlade]

BertBert said:

LocoBlade said:

Kubica, that's an MK Sprint R which is a road legal BEC and therefore is allowed on trackdays regardless, even though its a single seater. The same wouldnt apply to a converted FFord etc even if it had the same cycle wings unless you could make it road legal

I am not sure that is the case. Non-road legal cars are allowed at most regular track days (strangely not airfields in the main though). So I think that a suitably be-mudguarded FF would be allowed. I have seen exactly that at Donington (either BaT or the other lot IIRC).

Bert

Yep non road legal cars are allowed, but non road legal open wheeled cars generally aren't. If its road legal I don't think there can be any argument at all though, regardless of how many seats or how flimsy the cycle wings are.

I guess you could turn up with a FFord with cycle wings on and I agree in essense it wouldn't be a lot different to the above MK or even a Caterfield in that the wheels are fairly exposed and only covered with weak GRP guards, but I have a feeling that the TDO could be sailing into uncharted waters if there was an insurance claim involving such a car if the cover does indeed stipulate about open wheelers / single seaters.