Who's a good UK LS7 Engine Builder
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I do want a new one, I want a turnkey LS7 + cam-change that'll drop straight in, ie: it's got all the ancillaries.
I would like to deal with a UK company for geographical reasons, providing the extra cost isn't too much. I guess it's a case of weighing up the US $$$ savings against the conveniece of having a local builder should anything go wrong.
I'm meeting Peter Knight of Knight Racing Services on Friday - looking forward to it!
I would like to deal with a UK company for geographical reasons, providing the extra cost isn't too much. I guess it's a case of weighing up the US $$$ savings against the conveniece of having a local builder should anything go wrong.
I'm meeting Peter Knight of Knight Racing Services on Friday - looking forward to it!
Peter built my last engine and did a good job, always happy to give help and advice. Great person to deal with.
I chose to use Jeff Schwartz for my LS7 as I wanted a standard crate engine with forged pistons and the saving was significant. Jeff has been helpful and informative.
If you want to deal with a UK builder you won't go wrong with Peter.
I chose to use Jeff Schwartz for my LS7 as I wanted a standard crate engine with forged pistons and the saving was significant. Jeff has been helpful and informative.
If you want to deal with a UK builder you won't go wrong with Peter.
SlackBlevens said:
.......I'm meeting Peter Knight of Knight Racing Services on Friday - looking forward to it!
Peter would be my choice.If you do buy from Peter make sure you are there for the dyno session, very impressive.
I built my own engine and Peter dynoed it for me which is rather nerve racking standing beside your engine as it thrashes its nuts off.
Steve
Ramthorne said:
Peter built my last engine and did a good job, always happy to give help and advice. Great person to deal with.
I chose to use Jeff Schwartz for my LS7 as I wanted a standard crate engine with forged pistons and the saving was significant. Jeff has been helpful and informative.
If you want to deal with a UK builder you won't go wrong with Peter.
depends how deep your pockets are!!!!I chose to use Jeff Schwartz for my LS7 as I wanted a standard crate engine with forged pistons and the saving was significant. Jeff has been helpful and informative.
If you want to deal with a UK builder you won't go wrong with Peter.
I sourced my LS7 engine through Jeff Schwartz in the US. Jeff has a GTR himself. The engine was a turnkey package with gbx adaptor, clutch, mounts, starter, oil tank, ECU and special loom for the Ultima as well as mods like alternator reposition and intake reversal. It all just dropped in and fired up off the button...
I'd definately give him a call....
I'd definately give him a call....
Ramthorne said:
kylemrushall said:
depends how deep your pockets are!!!!
Not very, but my gen 1 motor provided in excess of what I had asked for at a pre agreed reasonable cost with comprehensive local back up. That seems to be what the op is looking for.My fears with LS were if it goes wrong who is going to fix it??
I can repair/tune my sbc myself, will i be able to do that with a LS unit....... no
My new SBC has made good figures , better than a standard Ls7 but not as good as a tuned one.
I have had some prices for tuning LS engines in the uk and it was pricey, but the beauty of Ultima ownership is we are all different much like our cars!!!
I think a LS will be a future event.
I would defo use Jeff in the States he is a nice guy and knows his onions.
kylemrushall said:
Ramthorne said:
kylemrushall said:
depends how deep your pockets are!!!!
Not very, but my gen 1 motor provided in excess of what I had asked for at a pre agreed reasonable cost with comprehensive local back up. That seems to be what the op is looking for.My fears with LS were if it goes wrong who is going to fix it??
I can repair/tune my sbc myself, will i be able to do that with a LS unit....... no
My new SBC has made good figures , better than a standard Ls7 but not as good as a tuned one.
I have had some prices for tuning LS engines in the uk and it was pricey, but the beauty of Ultima ownership is we are all different much like our cars!!!
I think a LS will be a future event.
I would defo use Jeff in the States he is a nice guy and knows his onions.
I thought they were relatively simple....
They imo are much more complex than the SBC that most of us have because they are controlled by computers and require several/many sensors
if the engine stops working(it will, nothing is 100% reliable) or is not working 100% how do you find out which sensor has gone down ..... you will need diagnostic equipment which will require a trip to a main dealer if you can find one or a specialist (tends to be pricey)
I can control my efi on my SBC with my laptop i cant do that with a LS currently but in time i think it will be possible???
I think at the mo a LS is not enough of a DIY motor for me
these are just my opinions so dont shout at me!!!!!
i have spoken to a very well respected engine builder in the states and he says he is doing quite a few rebuilds on LS motors (they are not unbustable) he thinks, bear in mind he works on both that the SBC is still currently a better option for component cars as there is an endless market for tuning/repairing etc etc
if the engine stops working(it will, nothing is 100% reliable) or is not working 100% how do you find out which sensor has gone down ..... you will need diagnostic equipment which will require a trip to a main dealer if you can find one or a specialist (tends to be pricey)
I can control my efi on my SBC with my laptop i cant do that with a LS currently but in time i think it will be possible???
I think at the mo a LS is not enough of a DIY motor for me
these are just my opinions so dont shout at me!!!!!
i have spoken to a very well respected engine builder in the states and he says he is doing quite a few rebuilds on LS motors (they are not unbustable) he thinks, bear in mind he works on both that the SBC is still currently a better option for component cars as there is an endless market for tuning/repairing etc etc
Sorry... but I have to disagree here.
1. If something goes wrong with a sensor, the LS will shut down so the engine will not be damaged.
2. You can buy a diagnostic program and it will tell you what's wrong.
3. Once the LS is set up, you dont need to tune it anyway.
4. The diagnostics, self learn and shutdown functions of the GM ECU are surely its best features.
5. You can take the car to anyone that can tune a Monaro.
6. ALL modern cars run on computers.
7. The repairing is no more complex than any other engine.
The best place for info on the LS is LS1tech.com... you should also look on hptuners.com... HP Tuners is one of the more popular diagnostic programs.
1. If something goes wrong with a sensor, the LS will shut down so the engine will not be damaged.
2. You can buy a diagnostic program and it will tell you what's wrong.
3. Once the LS is set up, you dont need to tune it anyway.
4. The diagnostics, self learn and shutdown functions of the GM ECU are surely its best features.
5. You can take the car to anyone that can tune a Monaro.
6. ALL modern cars run on computers.
7. The repairing is no more complex than any other engine.
The best place for info on the LS is LS1tech.com... you should also look on hptuners.com... HP Tuners is one of the more popular diagnostic programs.
crafty said:
Sorry... but I have to disagree here.
1. If something goes wrong with a sensor, the LS will shut down so the engine will not be damaged.
2. You can buy a diagnostic program and it will tell you what's wrong.
3. Once the LS is set up, you dont need to tune it anyway.
4. The diagnostics, self learn and shutdown functions of the GM ECU are surely its best features.
5. You can take the car to anyone that can tune a Monaro.
6. ALL modern cars run on computers.
7. The repairing is no more complex than any other engine.
The best place for info on the LS is LS1tech.com... you should also look on hptuners.com... HP Tuners is one of the more popular diagnostic programs.
it is definately more complex than a SBC!! it is still difficult to find anyone to work on it in the uk. As i said my opinions
1. If something goes wrong with a sensor, the LS will shut down so the engine will not be damaged.
2. You can buy a diagnostic program and it will tell you what's wrong.
3. Once the LS is set up, you dont need to tune it anyway.
4. The diagnostics, self learn and shutdown functions of the GM ECU are surely its best features.
5. You can take the car to anyone that can tune a Monaro.
6. ALL modern cars run on computers.
7. The repairing is no more complex than any other engine.
The best place for info on the LS is LS1tech.com... you should also look on hptuners.com... HP Tuners is one of the more popular diagnostic programs.
it is definately more complex than a SBC!! it is still difficult to find anyone to work on it in the uk. As i said my opinions
kylemrushall said:
it is definately more complex than a SBC!!
Oh come on now.... you're just being shy....if you can build an Ultima and repair and tune a Small Block with sequential EFI Im sure you'd be fine with an LS. I actually felt exactly the same way about the LS, but I had to go that route because of emissions here in Hong Kong, and after being forced to face my fear of computers in cars I found out that it was actually quite simple. One thing I couldnt get my head around was drive by wire... but if I did it again I'd probably go that way as I understand its an easy way to add traction control.
I did a load of reading on LS1tech and I bought the book below which explained a load.
How to Tune and Modify Engine Management Systems (Motorbooks Workshop)by Jeff Hartman
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760315825/sr=8-1...
crafty said:
kylemrushall said:
it is definately more complex than a SBC!!
Oh come on now.... you're just being shy....if you can build an Ultima and repair and tune a Small Block with sequential EFI Im sure you'd be fine with an LS. I actually felt exactly the same way about the LS, but I had to go that route because of emissions here in Hong Kong, and after being forced to face my fear of computers in cars I found out that it was actually quite simple. One thing I couldnt get my head around was drive by wire... but if I did it again I'd probably go that way as I understand its an easy way to add traction control.
I did a load of reading on LS1tech and I bought the book below which explained a load.
How to Tune and Modify Engine Management Systems (Motorbooks Workshop)by Jeff Hartman
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760315825/sr=8-1...
I dont trust anyone else to sort my car if there are problems
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