What will be in the budget?
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What do you think the chancellor will do in this week’s budget? I’ve seen reports about how he wants to see ‘only’ low environmental impact cars on the roads in years to come. I guess he likes cars such as the Prius (Pious) – don’t get me started about all that Lithium…
Is it more expense for the likes of those on this forum, to placate some political ideology?
Comments?
Is it more expense for the likes of those on this forum, to placate some political ideology?
Comments?
so all the enjoyable gets more expensive
I thnk that "we" will get shafted by fuel duty and higher car prices under the guise of the green banner, but I don't believe that we are victims of some political ideology - it is simply a case of raking in as much tax revenue as possible and motorists are an easy target by pretending it's all for the good of the planet.
Personally, I believe that governments are just jumping on the green bandwagon to try and justify blatent tax raising measures.
Rant over.
Phil
Personally, I believe that governments are just jumping on the green bandwagon to try and justify blatent tax raising measures.
Rant over.
Phil
Green has nothing to do with it. See rant on previous thread. These chiselers are taking 70% on every litre we use. What's greener, me doing 8k annually on 5.7L OR some guy doing 40k a year in 1.6 or 2.0L? It isn't rocket science. These incompitant fools need more and more of our money to squander on their pissant schemes. If motors ran on air these Labour idiots would find a way of getting their hooks in.
Squirt's gone up what, nearly 20% in the last year. Alistair, bless him, has made I believe £4bn unexpectedly on the back of that. Are they really trying to tell us underlying inflation is on target at around 2.5%, hahahahaha. What a bunch of fools.
Be comfortable with your carbon footprint my happy campers and suck it up.
Squirt's gone up what, nearly 20% in the last year. Alistair, bless him, has made I believe £4bn unexpectedly on the back of that. Are they really trying to tell us underlying inflation is on target at around 2.5%, hahahahaha. What a bunch of fools.
Be comfortable with your carbon footprint my happy campers and suck it up.
Extract from here http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial...
Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius. As already noted, the Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers. The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.
The plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. Dubbed the Superstack, the plague-factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario, becoming every environmentalist’s nightmare.
“The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants and the soil slid down off the hillside,” said Canadian Greenpeace energy-coordinator David Martin during an interview with Mail, a British-based newspaper.
All of this would be bad enough in and of itself; however, the journey to make a hybrid doesn’t end there. The nickel produced by this disastrous plant is shipped via massive container ship to the largest nickel refinery in Europe. From there, the nickel hops over to China to produce ‘nickel foam.’ From there, it goes to Japan. Finally, the completed batteries are shipped to the United States, finalizing the around-the-world trip required to produce a single Prius battery. Are these not sounding less and less like environmentally sound cars and more like a farce?
Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius. As already noted, the Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers. The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.
The plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. Dubbed the Superstack, the plague-factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario, becoming every environmentalist’s nightmare.
“The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants and the soil slid down off the hillside,” said Canadian Greenpeace energy-coordinator David Martin during an interview with Mail, a British-based newspaper.
All of this would be bad enough in and of itself; however, the journey to make a hybrid doesn’t end there. The nickel produced by this disastrous plant is shipped via massive container ship to the largest nickel refinery in Europe. From there, the nickel hops over to China to produce ‘nickel foam.’ From there, it goes to Japan. Finally, the completed batteries are shipped to the United States, finalizing the around-the-world trip required to produce a single Prius battery. Are these not sounding less and less like environmentally sound cars and more like a farce?
So do we think he'll add the 2p/litre (2.35p/litre with VAT)? It would appear as backing down if he doesn't, so I presume he'll go ahead with it.
Plus a "showroom tax" of 2k on band G cars, as well as road tax for Band G going up to £400/annum.
I work hard to try and be able to afford a nicer car. The way things are going, it's never going to happen
Plus a "showroom tax" of 2k on band G cars, as well as road tax for Band G going up to £400/annum.
I work hard to try and be able to afford a nicer car. The way things are going, it's never going to happen
As per The Times ;
Buyers of “gas-guzzlers” in car tax Band G will be confronted with a first-year charge of more than £1,000 in vehicle excise tax, before it reverts to the current level of £400. Mr Darling will also increase the number of bands from the current seven. Drivers in the lower bands will pay less tax than at present. The higher the emissions, the higher the first year excise duty.
Though we hope this is for April 2009 start.
Stu
Buyers of “gas-guzzlers” in car tax Band G will be confronted with a first-year charge of more than £1,000 in vehicle excise tax, before it reverts to the current level of £400. Mr Darling will also increase the number of bands from the current seven. Drivers in the lower bands will pay less tax than at present. The higher the emissions, the higher the first year excise duty.
Though we hope this is for April 2009 start.
Stu
Just had my tax renewal, due on 31 Mar/1 Apr, and I was expecting it to be £400 as my car's a post-Mar 06 Band G jobbie, but......it says the renewal is £300 (which is what I paid last year). When is the £400 effective from? Is it something like April 5th then? In which case, I've got a oner in my pocket I didn't know I had!
Just to add my 2p worth. I think it's scandalous the amount of fuel duty the government charges. The rising cost of fuel (ie. the increased cost from the oil companies) would not be a problem if this country didn't have such massively taxed fuel. Nobody can argue against increased fuel prices - that's the way of the world - but if we take away the tax chunk it would be 36p per litre. Who wouldn't think that was reasonable? Even if the government decided to tax it at 100% that would still only amount to 72p. But no. Our government taxes fuel at (almost) 200%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why we should all go ahead and sign the Prime Ministers petition:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/reducefuel
That's why we should all go ahead and sign the Prime Ministers petition:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/reducefuel
What is the current cost of standard 95RON unleaded and 97RON super unleaded in the UK?
At the moment in Germany (as of today) 95RON is costing 142.9 cents, which equates to just a few digits over 1.09GBP, and 97RON is just on the low side of 1.14GBP (148.9cents)...super always carries a 6 cent extra cost over normal unleaded here...
When I moved here last June the costs were around 120 to 125 cents/litre, so there's been roughly 20cents increase in 10 months here...
At the moment in Germany (as of today) 95RON is costing 142.9 cents, which equates to just a few digits over 1.09GBP, and 97RON is just on the low side of 1.14GBP (148.9cents)...super always carries a 6 cent extra cost over normal unleaded here...
When I moved here last June the costs were around 120 to 125 cents/litre, so there's been roughly 20cents increase in 10 months here...
baz7175 said:
So this would mean that the UK is still 8p cheaper per litre than mainland europe (granted the prices fluctuate from country to country) but it would appear that it's not only the UK government looking to rape users of fuel through duties...
Not here it isnt....Your German prices would be about the same as anywhere here. Was at a Maxol recently...116.9p/l for SUL !!!!!
Others were about 113.9
evenflow said:
So do we think he'll add the 2p/litre (2.35p/litre with VAT)? It would appear as backing down if he doesn't, so I presume he'll go ahead with it.
Plus a "showroom tax" of 2k on band G cars, as well as road tax for Band G going up to £400/annum.
I work hard to try and be able to afford a nicer car. The way things are going, it's never going to happen
Plus a "showroom tax" of 2k on band G cars, as well as road tax for Band G going up to £400/annum.
I work hard to try and be able to afford a nicer car. The way things are going, it's never going to happen
2p rise held back for 6 months is the thinking this morning.
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