Anyone here had a bike stolen from their shed?

Anyone here had a bike stolen from their shed?

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rumpelstiltskin

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2,805 posts

260 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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Can't believe the attitude i've just got asking policemen about this.My bike was stolen from my shed,thieving tt had lifted several things out of the shed which were in the way to get the bike out.Including parts of a plastic tool box,and a large clear plastic container full of white spirit that was covered with oil from my hands when i was using it a lot last week.I can actually very clearly see finger prints on it,clear as day!Scene of crime officer comes out,doesn't even open her bag of tricks.Just stands there going can't get prints of that,or that,or this?I just stood there in disbelief!Police just say oh,so you don't believe the opinion of a trained professional,well,no i sodding don't!Having a bike stolen is upsetting enough without having nothing done about it!

D_I_A_B_L_O

346 posts

209 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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Never had it myself but I feel for you mate, can see by the post you are upset

catso

14,794 posts

268 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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Only ever had a bicycle stolen from my shed many years ago, but I tracked the little fecker down punch and got it back in one piece.

Hope you get this sorted.

beer

freddytin

1,184 posts

228 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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Really sorry about the bike. Have you any pics to post, along with specifics of your machine ?


podman

8,878 posts

241 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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Complete w@nkers the lot of them...i had to retreive both my bike and car myself without the plod doing naff all to help until a complaint was made.The bike theft was never investigated.

The car theft in particular was shocking, they didnt even do the forensics on it despite the tea leaves leaving behind a mobile phone and all the tools of their trade, the car with phone sat in a their own car pound for nigh on a week with the tea leaves ringing and texting it, it even had a text telling them where they was meeting up.

No faith at all in them now.

agent006

12,043 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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rumpelstiltskin said:
Police just say oh,so you don't believe the opinion of a trained professional,well,no i sodding don't!
So how exactly would you go about getting the fingerprints? Feel free to go into as much technical detail as you like.

rumpelstiltskin

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2,805 posts

260 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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I would look at the oil covered plastic bottle with the highly visable fingerprints on it and go oh,there's highly visible fingerprints!and take it away.

agent006

12,043 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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I presume you're fully aware of the implications of submitting fingerprint evidence from a contaminated surface as court evidence? Which part of which relevent legislation would you use to ensure that youre evidence is admissable?

Rubin215

2,084 posts

197 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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rumpelstiltskin said:
I would look at the oil covered plastic bottle with the highly visable fingerprints on it and go oh,there's highly visible fingerprints!and take it away.
Seems obvious to a layman...

agent006 said:
I presume you're fully aware of the implications of submitting fingerprint evidence from a contaminated surface as court evidence? Which part of which relevent legislation would you use to ensure that youre evidence is admissable?
but I get the feeling this chap knows what he's on about!

The T Boy

761 posts

241 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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agent006 said:
I presume you're fully aware of the implications of submitting fingerprint evidence from a contaminated surface as court evidence? Which part of which relevent legislation would you use to ensure that youre evidence is admissable?
It's not about whether there is sufficient evidence to convict just from the fingerprints.

Look at fingerprints, match to known crim, go round his house, find bike in bits in his shed, convict on that evidence is a perfectly feasible scenario but won't happen if no initial action is taken. From the above it sounds as though the OP is just frustrated at the apparent lack of effort from the police and I think that I would be too.

R4PID

1,060 posts

246 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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The T Boy said:
agent006 said:
I presume you're fully aware of the implications of submitting fingerprint evidence from a contaminated surface as court evidence? Which part of which relevent legislation would you use to ensure that youre evidence is admissable?
It's not about whether there is sufficient evidence to convict just from the fingerprints.

Look at fingerprints, match to known crim, go round his house, find bike in bits in his shed, convict on that evidence is a perfectly feasible scenario but won't happen if no initial action is taken. From the above it sounds as though the OP is just frustrated at the apparent lack of effort from the police and I think that I would be too.
Agreed, its about initial investigation and resultant follow up, not what will eventually happen in court. Follow up, find the bike, bike goes back, bike used as evidence to convict, job done. Christ, if the prints are so clearly legible on an oil can, surely a hi res digi photo would work and help with a match up.

I'm not familiar with the operations of scene of crimes officers but you have to admit in 2008, with a clearly visible finger print that surely to god they're able to analyse. If not, then my faith in the bib just nose dived too.

rumpelstiltskin

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2,805 posts

260 months

Tuesday 1st April 2008
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Well managed to get the bike back with no help at all from the police,The polices inaction just spurred me to inundate every single town with posters of the bike,post office sorting offices,postmen,delivery drivers,everyone!Even believe it or not window cleaners!So,how did i get it back?Rough looking guy(turns out he was homeless) talks to me in the street about bik i was washing,2 days later bike gets nicked.Meanwhile im going daft distributing photos to anyone and everyone,by chance gave photo of bike to a window cleaner,(don't know why?)Guy who nicked bike sold it to the cousin of this window cleaner,the cousin is showed the photo of my bike by the window cleaner and hey presto,the cousin who bought bike calls me.Mate he says,i know how gutting it is to have a bike stolen,i think i've just been sold your bike!Guys just taken the hit of buying the bike from this scrote and settled for the reward i gave him for its return.What a weird and wonderful tale! smilePeople were always telling me oh no,don't spread all these pics saying about rewards etc,you'll drive the bike further underground.But my logic was to try and flush it out with the reward.I feel like one lucky sod!

The T Boy

761 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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What a result.

Now phone the police and tell them it's all sorted and offer to give their officers a training course in how to solve crimes. Charge them a couple of grand a day.

Moulder

1,466 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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Fantastic. Thats my faith restored in the human race, someone has put the feeling of others over financial gain/loss.

Does part of the Council Tax not go to the police force? In this case it sounds like some sort of rebate is in order....

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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When people 'see' fingerprints it is always marks from gloves. Almost all fingerprints are basically invisible. So if the scenes of crime officer stood there and said they couldn't get the prints then they weren't having a laugh - it takes a short time to do and as they had already gone to your address it isn't in their interest to not lift any. Glad you got your bike back but you shouldn't assume you know everything.

catso

14,794 posts

268 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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Glad to hear you got it back but if the guy who bought your bike can identify the seller to you, a lesson in 'honesty' might be in order..... wink