335d is cr&p,

[dxb335d]

Must be, i own one.

Apparently if you would prefer to own a nice new BMW diesel over a 12 year old 355 you must be nutz and wrong in the head.

Im not really after an ageing, out of date ferrari. WOuld prefer something newer, reliable and certainly in this day and age in certain parts more stylish than an out of date ferrari.

Yes they are amazing cars to the right people. But not for everyone. Im being condemned for enjoying a good car. Does piss me off ever so slightly.

This was in the general gassing forum. I do think though ever so slightly its a personal attack on me rather than my choice of car, using what i do have and what i am passionate about to redicule me.

Nice bunch on here. Real car people for sure. (have to take the piss out of anyone who hasnt got a type of car similar to theirs.)




Carlos

[Apache]

on this site?

[sniff petrol]

It's horses for courses Carlos, we're all car enthusiasts on here and we all like different things. Given a theoretical £45k budget I doubt 2 people on here would buy the same thing, some would get an older Ferrari, some a couple year old 911, maybe a Noble - hell some have spent that much fettling MK2 Escorts and such (BTW did you see the Koeningsegg engined MK4 Granada?)

Don't take it badly, it's great that you're passionate about your car, and we're all passionate about our own cars. For what it's worth I'd love a 335d touring to replace my E36 325 TDS touring when funds allow.

Don't let them knock you back, maybe just let your car do the talking and sit back safe in the knowlege that you've got your dream car at such a young age.

Edited by sniff petrol on Sunday 13th April 15:39

[sniff petrol]

Apache said:

on this site?

Must mean this thread:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0...

[vincenz]

Are you sure the title shouldnt say 335d sounds crap?
That would be more accurate

[Fidgits]

if all you care about is the number on the license plate of your BMW (i.e. keeping up with the joneses) you may do better here:

www.handbag.com

HTH

[pgilc1]

dxb335d said:

Must be, i own one.

Apparently if you would prefer to own a nice new BMW diesel over a 12 year old 355 you must be nutz and wrong in the head.

Im not really after an ageing, out of date ferrari. WOuld prefer something newer, reliable and certainly in this day and age in certain parts more stylish than an out of date ferrari.

Yes they are amazing cars to the right people. But not for everyone. Im being condemned for enjoying a good car. Does piss me off ever so slightly.

This was in the general gassing forum. I do think though ever so slightly its a personal attack on me rather than my choice of car, using what i do have and what i am passionate about to redicule me.

Nice bunch on here. Real car people for sure. (have to take the piss out of anyone who hasnt got a type of car similar to theirs.)




Carlos

I have to say, here on pistonheads there is a tendency for personal attacks, or making it personal. Also i'd never ridicule / heavily criticise someones actual car, but that seems fair game on some of the forums here too.

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 16:03

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 16:08

[pgilc1]

Fidgits said:

if all you care about is the number on the license plate of your BMW (i.e. keeping up with the joneses) you may do better here:

www.handbag.com

HTH

Did the o/p mention having to have a new car to feel better than anyone else? I personally enjoy a new car as i get exactly what i want, i know everything about the car and i get a comprehensive warranty. Nothing at all to do with 'keeping up with the jones'

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 16:05

[Fidgits]

pgilc1 said:

Fidgits said:

if all you care about is the number on the license plate of your BMW (i.e. keeping up with the joneses) you may do better here:

www.handbag.com

HTH

Did the o/p mention having to have a new car to feel better than anyone else? I personally enjoy a new car as i get exactly what i want, i know everything about the car and i get a comprehensive warranty. Nothing at all to do with 'keeping up with the jones'

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 16:05

I agree with 'needs must' in some cars - which is why I ran a nearly new Lexus for a while - because I needed a reliable long distance cruiser..

The OP (not here but in another thread) claimed the reason he bought the BMW was that it was brand new - and would only ever buy a 'new' ferrari - which in my mind comes down to plate-snobbery rather than requirements? After all, I ran an 8 year old 911 with Manufacturers warranty.

As someone else said, it all comes down to personal choice - we all want different things from cars and will rarely agree on specifics - and while most people will accept the virtues of the 335D - not many of us would rather have one over a Ferrari 360 or 996 Turbo...

[Neil.D]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0...

Quite a stupid argument, but damn funny reading.

[AlexE46]

There's no doubting that the 335d is a good car - but as I have already said, £45k (I'm using this figure as it was quoted earlier, I'm aware you didn't buy the car new and that you more than likely didn't pay market value for it as you purchased it from your father, and it wasnt as if the i was a choice for you) is a lot of money for what is just a 3 series, if i was getting a 335 it would be the i for sure, if you have £45k then I'm sure fuel isn't an issue (although I am aware that more and more people are financing themselves to the hilt on cars like this and sometimes cant really afford to run them) and the added involvement in driving the i coupled with the excellent noise from that engine would swing that one for me.

But yeah, horses for courses, i wouldn't spend £45k on a 3 series, it'd go on something else.

On the subject of personal attacks, it is getting a bit silly but you do rise to it which makes you great fun to wind up

If you're happy with your car and the next guy is happy with his £45k 355 then who cares

[SJobson]

Get a thicker skin. HTH.

[DucatiGary]

ah ha

the inevitable "mum! the bad men on t'interweb are picking on me" thread.

how come they always run to the own brand forum?

looking for some support?

for the record I was not taking the piss on a personal note, just having a laugh, you made it easy with diluded thoughts that somone might want a 3 series beema on their bedroom wall nekkid chix or not.

ill give you this, your cars quite nice, nothing really wrong with it, but its not photographer and nudie wimmin material.

more flat cap and walking stick, if you get my drift.

now stop being a girl and lighten up, yeah?

[pgilc1]

I think the problem is that Carlos is a realist, like myself. People will say oh if i was spending 45K on a car, then i'd buy the ferrari, but in the real world, its about more than buying it, its about running costs it, it doing the job you need of it, etc.

I think Carlos also got a kicking for buying a 335d over a 335i, but at the end of the day, fuel economy still plays a part in the running of a car, as does depreciation, so irrespective of how it was financed, its important to take into account total running costs - buying the 335d over the 335i doesnt mean you 'cant afford it' it just means you're aware of what the differences is going to be. I'd rather have a 335d rather than a 325i if running costs were roughly finance payment + fuel costs.

So for all those tittering up their sleeves about this being a 'car enthusiasts' forum, if you spending 45K of your own money to buy a car to run as your only car and keep for say, 10 years, would it really be a 10 year old ferrari? OR would it be something more practical, powerful, new or fairly new, with a decent boot and a bit of room in it?

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 18:56

[pgilc1]

DucatiGary said:

ill give you this, your cars quite nice, nothing really wrong with it, but its not photographer and nudie wimmin material.

more flat cap and walking stick, if you get my drift.

now stop being a girl and lighten up, yeah?

So, where did mike in his original post stipulate that

(a) there would be 'nudie wimmin'
(b) it had to be a ferrari / porsche / whatever

To take an extract from his profile "Always looking for cars to shoot with glamour models. If you are in my area and fancy your car featured with a hot model, then get in touch. Free photos for you! and a pic with the model!!!"

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 19:05

[pgilc1]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I think thats the key phrase there. Everyone has their own reasons for driving what they do. I wouldnt drive a 328i e36, you wouldnt drive my x5. Doesnt mean we should ridicule everyone elses choices, not when we dont understand their reasons or motiviations.

I've done the having one expensive car and one cheapo car thing, and it didnt work for me. I ended up driving the cheapo all the time, because i wouldnt leave the good one in car parks, shopping centres, risk parking it in a town, etc. Therefore having actually done it, as opposed to sitting around on a forum and talking about it, i wouldnt criticise someone for covering all the bases with one car.

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 19:16

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 19:17

Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 13th April 19:18

[Hedgeman]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

£45k maybe the list price, but the reality is that a well spec'd 335i/d can be had brand new for mid-thirties. In 911 terms that probably buys you a five year old car which however way you look at it has given its best and is going to be at least a little worn around the edges. More exciting to drive undoubtedly yes (though maybe less than you may imagine), but the all round capabilities and practicalities of the 335 make it an attractive package.

[dibbly_dobbler]

My tuppence worth

Carlos - you seem like a top bloke and I would really like a 335d but you did kind of set yourself up for this one ! I love my 130 but I sure know it aint photoshoot material ...

Gary - get out of our nice BMW world you're not welcome.
(funny though !)

[MikeyMike]

Hold on, you're all missing the point a little here. Correct me if I'm wrong but your typical car + model photoshoot consists of a pretty girl with curves in all the right places that would get any red blooded males pulse racing and to most of us is ultimately unnobtainable, and a striking, visually dramatic car that does pretty much the same, anything from a Murcielago/Zonda to a Noble perhaps but again unnobtainable to the comman man. The two compete for the viewers attention. The OP offered his 335d, a great car no doubt but it is ultimately a diesel saloon car and unremarkable in every way. I too would love to see my MR2 featured in a photoshoot with a Slovakian bird leaving a snail trail down the bonnet because just as the 335 is his p&j the toyota is mine, yet I'm enough of a realist to know that 99% of people aren't interested in looking at a 16 year old rice rocket. Some people were just a little less than tactfull in pointing out his error.

[Neil.D]

MikeyMike said:

Hold on, you're all missing the point a little here. Correct me if I'm wrong but your typical car + model photoshoot consists of a pretty girl with curves in all the right places that would get any red blooded males pulse racing and to most of us is ultimately unnobtainable, and a striking, visually dramatic car that does pretty much the same, anything from a Murcielago/Zonda to a Noble perhaps but again unnobtainable to the comman man. The two compete for the viewers attention. The OP offered his 335d, a great car no doubt but it is ultimately a diesel saloon car and unremarkable in every way. I too would love to see my MR2 featured in a photoshoot with a Slovakian bird leaving a snail trail down the bonnet because just as the 335 is his p&j the toyota is mine, yet I'm enough of a realist to know that 99% of people aren't interested in looking at a 16 year old rice rocket. Some people were just a little less than tactfull in pointing out his error.

Fair one.
You have my applaude for a well written point of view.