got my imac/ silly question time

got my imac/ silly question time

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bilko2

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1,693 posts

233 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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finally got my 2.4 imac superdrive desktop computer and it is the most brilliant bit of kit i have ever owned lol. Remember i am comming from win 98 with a pentium 2 processor.
It's taken me all day but i am now on the internet ( obviously ) and i'm working my way through what things do.
There's no instruction manual for the OS.
Anyway the thing i am stuck on is the screen size.
It has a 20 inc screen and iv'e found out how to make web pages bigger and wider by using the green plus button and display in preferences. i can't find how to make them narrower again though. Pressing the orange - just sends the page to the bottom.
Can you help?, sorry to be so thick.

It started off fine as the more times you pressed the +, the wider the page would get and then shrink back to original size after a certain amount of clicks. Now it doesn't do anything. have i broken it?

jeevescat

880 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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Little grey triangle bottom right hand corner, drag it.

bilko2

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

233 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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Wonderful!
Thanks mate, don't know how i missed it.

jeevescat

880 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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Also, the help menu at the top of the screen is a good source of info, either for the OS itself, or within each application.

bilko2

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1,693 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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Getting used to it now.
Where can i delete offline content from all my porn watching then?biggrin, Or should i say, how do you clean up the system?
Also security, it has a built in firewall which i think i have put on max but do i need to load Norton that i have from my last computer?
Where is add and remove programs for removing stuff i don't want? For example, widgets that i have decided to get rid of.
Found the help guides for each application and am gradually ploughing through them

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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I use ClamX (free) for virus checking but only to make sure I do not pass on unwanted stuff with Mac Office files etc. Other wise I do not bother. Never had an issue either way in umpteen years. No viruses as yet as I understand it but you can pass one on to a PC?

Removing programs I just drag the folder to the bin or delete key combo on the folder. Job done.

It's handy to print off a list of key board short cuts. It will become second nature. Also control+click items as a short cut for more menu options.

Version tracker is handy for many apps and onyx for a system maintenance tool. Later available from version tacker.
http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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bilko2 said:
Getting used to it now.
Where can i delete offline content from all my porn watching then?biggrin, Or should i say, how do you clean up the system?
In Safari, that's Safari->Empty Cache and History->Clear History. In Firefox, it's Tools->Clear Private Data. Camino has menus similar to Safari.

bilko2 said:
Also security, it has a built in firewall which i think i have put on max but do i need to load Norton that i have from my last computer?
No. Don't bother. Plus, it wouldn't work anyway.

bilko2 said:
Where is add and remove programs for removing stuff i don't want? For example, widgets that i have decided to get rid of.
For Widgets, open Dashboard, click the big + sign at the bottom left, and then click Manage Widgets. There will be a red - sign next to those that you can delete.

For applications, just drag them to the trash.

bilko2 said:
Found the help guides for each application and am gradually ploughing through them
Good man! You do realise that this "reading the manual" malarky means you have to hand in your man-badge?

WBC

126 posts

241 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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CommanderJameson said:
bilko2 said:
Getting used to it now.
Where can i delete offline content from all my porn watching then?biggrin, Or should i say, how do you clean up the system?
In Safari, that's Safari->Empty Cache and History->Clear History. In Firefox, it's Tools->Clear Private Data. Camino has menus similar to Safari.
Another useful tip is Safari->Private Browsing, for browsing without leaving an obvious trail as to what sites you were looking at/searching for etc. Obviously I never need to use this wink

bilko2

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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Thanks for the tipssmile
Now then i have made my curser disappear whilst watching dvd's so i can't go to the top or bottom of page to use controls.
Anyone know how to get it back?hehe

mcflurry

9,103 posts

254 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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Why not go back to your local mac shop... they offer free classes in how to use your new toy mac smile


jeevescat

880 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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bilko2 said:
Thanks for the tipssmile
Now then i have made my curser disappear whilst watching dvd's so i can't go to the top or bottom of page to use controls.
Anyone know how to get it back?hehe
Try the escape key, top left, gets you back from full screen.

bilko2

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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Thankssmile
Just read the help. It appears that i was using front row instead of dvd player. There is no curser application in front row, Doh!

jeevescat

880 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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Esc. also acts as a back button in front row

cyberface

12,214 posts

258 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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bilko2 said:
Thankssmile
Just read the help. It appears that i was using front row instead of dvd player. There is no curser application in front row, Doh!
Use the infrared remote control then! Works a bit like a simple TV if you're in Front Row (and by default, your Mac will accept any IR remote, you don't need to arse about with passwords IIRC)

My advice - most important thing you should do is forget Windows entirely and its user paradigm. Assume the Mac is like some evil open-source advocate had dumped a Linux machine on your desk and you had to learn how to use the computer from scratch (Mac OS X is, in fact, a hell of a lot more like Linux than Windows underneath, but you don't need to know that).

Really, really, really - don't assume any of the things you had to do on Windows apply to the Mac. They are entirely different platforms built in a completely different way. Security is the obvious thing - in general you don't need any of the anti-virus, anti-spyware, 'internet protection' nonsense because OS X was built from the start as a networked multi-user OS, whereas Windows started off as a single-user non-networked system (before I get flamed, I know all about VMS and Cutler's design team, but the OP is coming from Windows 98 which does NOT have a multiuser kernel).

There are a couple of similarities - Windows copied cut / copy / paste from Apple, so what is command-C (copy), command-X (cut) and command-V (paste) is ctrl-C, ctrl-X and ctrl-V on Windows. Command key on the Mac is the one that has the ⌘ symbol on it (there's a nice history about this as it's a 'place of interest' symbol you see on motorway signs in Scandinavia, IIRC). Actually it'll be interesting to see whether PH forum code handles Unicode properly, and what you PC guys see in that sentence... the OP with the Mac will get it though smile


Basically, learn the Mac as a new paradigm - don't expect Windows knowledge to cross over to Mac knowledge, etc. - treat them as separate systems. You do NOT need to reinstall your OS on the Mac every few months like many Windows 95-98-Me users had to, for example. You don't need to defrag your disks. You don't need 'anti-virus'. Just use the built in tools, don't try to force it to behave like Windows and you'll be fine. When you run into a block and don't know how to do something, ask here as there are plenty of Mac users around. Once you've got the 'feel' of the system, you can then start adding applications. Don't waste money on new apps until you're sure that there isn't something already included that does the job!!!! The standard Apple suite is surprisingly comprehensive (and, of course, you can install virtually ALL the apps available on Linux, if you've used that).

Have fun, and use Time Machine if you can... it's a built-in BACKUP mechanism and as always, regardless of how good OS X is, you'll need to backup your files because disks break, etc. Time Machine is easy and cool.

bilko2

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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Cyberface
Thank you so much or your lengthy reply. I have a friend at work who told me just today to forget everything i thought i knew about computer operating systems. He literally welcomed me to what he described as a new and happy relationship with computers. It's only been 2 days and although i am still fumbling in the dark a lot i don't think i will ever turn back.

cyberface

12,214 posts

258 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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bilko2 said:
Cyberface
Thank you so much or your lengthy reply. I have a friend at work who told me just today to forget everything i thought i knew about computer operating systems. He literally welcomed me to what he described as a new and happy relationship with computers. It's only been 2 days and although i am still fumbling in the dark a lot i don't think i will ever turn back.
Well, if you know any Unix then don't forget that!!!! Mac OS X has unix underneath so all the command line skills are useful.

I'd stop short of saying 'forget everything you thought you knew about computer operating systems'. I'd say 'forget the Windows user paradigm'. Parts of OS X are very like the old NeXTStep, the underlying command-line OS is Unix-compatible and very familiar to anyone who's used Linux, etc.

No one tool is perfect for everything. I love the Mac and everyone here knows that smile However I wouldn't say it's perfect for everything, so 'no turning back' is a bit OTT. That said, for a general-purpose desktop OS biased towards 'home' use, Mac OS X is IMO head and shoulders above all the alternatives. It's worth knowing where the different paradigms overlap though, since there are some shared bits. As I said before, the kernel may be different but the userland of OS X is BSD basically, and most Linux source will compile on OS X. It uses the bash shell, so if you've used the bash shell on any other Unix box then you'll know what to do on the Mac.

If you're new though, and just use the desktop stuff, then enjoy yourself. You'll run into a few media codec roadblocks (OS X won't play Windows Media videos out of the box, and a few other common codecs in Windows land won't work), so search this forum and you'll get answers of 'install Perian' and 'install Flip4Mac' for your video requirements.

You can also run Windows on a Mac at the end of the day (either fully, or in a virtual machine using VMware or Parallels) so the world's your lobster, Rodney hehe


Anyway, have you bought your black turtleneck top and blue jeans yet? wink Your mate at work sounds like a Maclot to me (pot, kettle, etc. ) biglaugh