Biking - costs?

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clonmult

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10,529 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Got my license years back, and haven't ridden much since then (married to a woman who wouldn't let me on a bike ... now divorced biggrin )

Wondering on the general costs on a cheap, commuter friendly bike.

Few things to think of :

1. Insurance costs. I'm getting on a bit (38), would insurance on something up to 600cc be similar or less than I'm paying on a car (I'm paying around £300 fully comp on a Laguna)
2. Servicing .... which bikes are more reliable - always considered a CBR600 to be a good all round bike.
3. Economy. What sort of mileage can you get out of something on a gentle (not suicidal) commute to work?

Which bikes would be worth considering? Got absolutely no idea on budget at the moment though, but maybe a couple of k?

UpTheIron

4,001 posts

270 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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1. You'll definitely be able to pay less than that for a bike - I pay £220 for my VFR, and I've got zero NCB and less than a years riding experience.
2. I've been led to believe Honda are pretty much the pick of the bunch.
3. I get about 40-45mpg out of my VFR commuting - that was a 50:50 mix of fast motorway and then central London.

If you aren't too concerned about image and just want to commute then at that budget I'd be looking at a Honda Deauville (Dullville). Otherwise there is nothing wrong with a CBR6


clonmult

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Wednesday 13th August 2008
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UpTheIron said:
1. You'll definitely be able to pay less than that for a bike - I pay £220 for my VFR, and I've got zero NCB and less than a years riding experience.
2. I've been led to believe Honda are pretty much the pick of the bunch.
3. I get about 40-45mpg out of my VFR commuting - that was a 50:50 mix of fast motorway and then central London.

If you aren't too concerned about image and just want to commute then at that budget I'd be looking at a Honda Deauville (Dullville). Otherwise there is nothing wrong with a CBR6
Ta.

Just done a check on the insurance, and even with zero ncb I can get an NT650 insured for less than £200! Thats without any details of immobiliser/etc. Not bad .... will have to continue saving then.

VFR750 would only come in at around £250 ....

So get a bike, cut the cars insurance costs by halving the mileage I'd be doing. Save on fuel. Have a total laugh on the way into work. Would have to get a set of leathers though.

steven182

1,886 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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clonmult said:
(married to a woman who wouldn't let me on a bike ... now divorced biggrin
I wonder why you got divorced :P

anyway, I recently got the cbr 600 F very old one and get about 55-60mpg insurance for me is £500 TPFT 19years old and only passed my test 2 weeks ago so understandable. I would imagine it would be sub £300 for you fully comp but do some quotes to get an idea. Not sure what a service is on mine but I am having to fork out £200ish on new tyres this week.

fantastic bike the cbr =D

clonmult

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steven182 said:
clonmult said:
(married to a woman who wouldn't let me on a bike ... now divorced biggrin
I wonder why you got divorced :P

anyway, I recently got the cbr 600 F very old one and get about 55-60mpg insurance for me is £500 TPFT 19years old and only passed my test 2 weeks ago so understandable. I would imagine it would be sub £300 for you fully comp but do some quotes to get an idea. Not sure what a service is on mine but I am having to fork out £200ish on new tyres this week.

fantastic bike the cbr =D
My first thought on moving out/getting divorced was to change the car - went from a "family friendly" Mondeo TD to a BMW 318iS coupe. Should have gone for a bike instead ...

Its always been the CBR600 thats attracted me, and that sort of economy is absolutely stellar!

One of the guys at work was suggesting the later CBR6 as a better bet - later models went for fuel injection over carbs, which are more reliable in cooler conditions? Carb icing?

smack

9,732 posts

193 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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clonmult said:
One of the guys at work was suggesting the later CBR6 as a better bet - later models went for fuel injection over carbs, which are more reliable in cooler conditions? Carb icing?
More reliable starting when cold, and hot - I rarely have an issue, even when sitting in a freezing garage in winter for a month.

Though I do miss the overfueling/trailing throttle backfires of carby bikes.

steven182

1,886 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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clonmult said:
One of the guys at work was suggesting the later CBR6 as a better bet - later models went for fuel injection over carbs, which are more reliable in cooler conditions? Carb icing?
yeppo so far haven't had trouble starting mine although it is summer well its warmer than february a bit...

I think you get better mpg and performance with the injection models and you could hook up powercommanders and all that jazz to increase performance.

the later models also have a lighter frame (aluminium i think) and cooler bodywork but I still love mine and it was cheap and insurance friendly so =]

Nimbus

1,176 posts

230 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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clonmult said:
Got my license years back, and haven't ridden much since then (married to a woman who wouldn't let me on a bike ... now divorced biggrin )

Wondering on the general costs on a cheap, commuter friendly bike.

Few things to think of :

1. Insurance costs. I'm getting on a bit (38), would insurance on something up to 600cc be similar or less than I'm paying on a car (I'm paying around £300 fully comp on a Laguna)
2. Servicing .... which bikes are more reliable - always considered a CBR600 to be a good all round bike.
3. Economy. What sort of mileage can you get out of something on a gentle (not suicidal) commute to work?

Which bikes would be worth considering? Got absolutely no idea on budget at the moment though, but maybe a couple of k?
Same age smile passed last year and bought a 14k mile, 2000 plate Bandit 600S for £1400, £108 tpft ideal for commuting the 20 miles each way every day smile

I get 40 mpg at the moment, and that's from thrashing it everywhere smile

Definitely do it smile

AndyDRZ

1,202 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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So you don't kid yourself:

By the time you've bought the gear, paid for tyres, chains, servicing (All these items seem to come up a lot more often than on a car) The bike will not save you money....

However, it will be very very fun. wink

clonmult

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Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Nimbus said:
clonmult said:
Got my license years back, and haven't ridden much since then (married to a woman who wouldn't let me on a bike ... now divorced biggrin )

Wondering on the general costs on a cheap, commuter friendly bike.

Few things to think of :

1. Insurance costs. I'm getting on a bit (38), would insurance on something up to 600cc be similar or less than I'm paying on a car (I'm paying around £300 fully comp on a Laguna)
2. Servicing .... which bikes are more reliable - always considered a CBR600 to be a good all round bike.
3. Economy. What sort of mileage can you get out of something on a gentle (not suicidal) commute to work?

Which bikes would be worth considering? Got absolutely no idea on budget at the moment though, but maybe a couple of k?
Same age smile passed last year and bought a 14k mile, 2000 plate Bandit 600S for £1400, £108 tpft ideal for commuting the 20 miles each way every day smile

I get 40 mpg at the moment, and that's from thrashing it everywhere smile

Definitely do it smile
Here's hoping the current g/f is accepting of me "saving costs and journey time" in buying a motorbike.

Doubt I'd ride that fast most of the time, so if a Bandit can get 40mpg while being thrashed. Its insurance friendly too - TPF&T would set me back less than 100 notes a year. £150 full comp ....

Set of clothes isn't too bad - a lid around £50, jeans, jacket, shoes, gloves ... all can be had around that sort of price.

Bet my mum won't be too happy, but then my dad was a biker, and she used to go everywhere with him on the back of a bike ....

clonmult

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Wednesday 13th August 2008
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AndyDRZ said:
So you don't kid yourself:

By the time you've bought the gear, paid for tyres, chains, servicing (All these items seem to come up a lot more often than on a car) The bike will not save you money....

However, it will be very very fun. wink
I drive a Renault Laguna.

That just eats consumable. So just using that at weekends or evening for ferrying around the kids will save a huge amount on wear and tear.

On the journey to work I'm always being passed by a variety of bikes (single lane A roads). So if it cuts 10 minutes off my commute each way its worth it. Honestly, 10 minutes longer in bed would be heaven .....

Actually, I only have one problem. The front of the house isn't even slightly flat .... its very awkwardly sloped, and normally filled with the Laguna and the other housemates Impreza ....

steven182

1,886 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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clonmult said:
Actually, I only have one problem. The front of the house isn't even slightly flat .... its very awkwardly sloped, and normally filled with the Laguna and the other housemates Impreza ....
Do you have a garage/shed?

clonmult

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Wednesday 13th August 2008
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steven182 said:
clonmult said:
Actually, I only have one problem. The front of the house isn't even slightly flat .... its very awkwardly sloped, and normally filled with the Laguna and the other housemates Impreza ....
Do you have a garage/shed?
Nope. Access to the back garden is not possible - decking gets in the way. Although depending on the weight of the bike I could possible slowly lift it into the garden. Give me a little extra workout each day ....

steven182

1,886 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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clonmult said:
steven182 said:
clonmult said:
Actually, I only have one problem. The front of the house isn't even slightly flat .... its very awkwardly sloped, and normally filled with the Laguna and the other housemates Impreza ....
Do you have a garage/shed?
Nope. Access to the back garden is not possible - decking gets in the way. Although depending on the weight of the bike I could possible slowly lift it into the garden. Give me a little extra workout each day ....
cbr 600s are around 150kg I think. bit tricky then to park it securely perhaps just behind the car with a fat mother of a chain onto an anchor in your wall?

clonmult

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Wednesday 13th August 2008
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steven182 said:
clonmult said:
steven182 said:
clonmult said:
Actually, I only have one problem. The front of the house isn't even slightly flat .... its very awkwardly sloped, and normally filled with the Laguna and the other housemates Impreza ....
Do you have a garage/shed?
Nope. Access to the back garden is not possible - decking gets in the way. Although depending on the weight of the bike I could possible slowly lift it into the garden. Give me a little extra workout each day ....
cbr 600s are around 150kg I think. bit tricky then to park it securely perhaps just behind the car with a fat mother of a chain onto an anchor in your wall?
I'll just have to browse some bikes, see how easy it is to lift the front up the decking into the back garden. I was doing around 300kilo squats earlier in the year, so 150kg shouldn't be a problem .... I hope.

It'll be a little bit before I can actually go for it though. Maybe in what counts for "autumn", bike prices may be a little lower then?

steven182

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203 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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just get a plank of wood and ride it up onto your decking.

clonmult

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Wednesday 13th August 2008
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steven182 said:
just get a plank of wood and ride it up onto your decking.
Genius. I seem to focus on the negatives too much ....

AndyDRZ

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238 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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150kg? MAybe without the wheels, petrol, oil, water.....