GOlf V GTI longlife service - cost ?
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First AVS on an A3 (basically the same) is £200. Sounds right to me.
Oil filter x 1 £ 5.40
Screenwash x 1 £ 1.10
Sump plug x 1 £ 2.50
Pollen filter (if between 14-19K miles) £ 17.55
Oil 5 x £11 = £55
Parts + Oil = 81.55
Labour 1.1 (AVS) + 0.2(Pollen) x labour rate say £88 = 114.40
makes £81+ £114 = 195+VAT = 230inc
+ £70 if 2 years old for brake fluid change.
Oil filter x 1 £ 5.40
Screenwash x 1 £ 1.10
Sump plug x 1 £ 2.50
Pollen filter (if between 14-19K miles) £ 17.55
Oil 5 x £11 = £55
Parts + Oil = 81.55
Labour 1.1 (AVS) + 0.2(Pollen) x labour rate say £88 = 114.40
makes £81+ £114 = 195+VAT = 230inc
+ £70 if 2 years old for brake fluid change.
It doesnt take an hour to change the oil.
It takes an hour to do the service though.
The point is you get 1.1 + 0.2, thats how garages work, you have book times for each task and generally as you do quite a lot you can do the service a bit quicker than the book time. In contrast you get about 3.0 hours to do a TT cam belt and it can take up to 5.
Service goes somthing like this. the technician will print a check sheet and you can ask to see it, and see exactly what gets done.
Find car in car park, fill in body report.
Get car in and raise on ramp, remove undertray + Drain oil. Go to workshop computer, check for recalls and raise service sheet, + print. Connected diag computer to car, reset service light and check for fault codes. Check all wheel bearings, ball joints, bushes, shocks, steering rack etc for play/damage etc. Check brakes discs and pads for wear etc, full visual inspection of underneath. Check tyres record tread depth + adjust pressures, including spare, including taking customers golf clubs etc out of boot to gain access. Check engine + cooling system for leaks, refit under tray. Lower car, change filters, fill with oil, check under bonnet levels screen wash, PAS fluid etc, top up, check battery. Check all lights and wipers and washer and horn, Fill in paper work, road test 4 miles of so, open bonnet quick check for leaks, all good. Stop the clock.
That takes me about an hour, any quicker and you didnt do it all properly.
It takes an hour to do the service though.
The point is you get 1.1 + 0.2, thats how garages work, you have book times for each task and generally as you do quite a lot you can do the service a bit quicker than the book time. In contrast you get about 3.0 hours to do a TT cam belt and it can take up to 5.
Service goes somthing like this. the technician will print a check sheet and you can ask to see it, and see exactly what gets done.
Find car in car park, fill in body report.
Get car in and raise on ramp, remove undertray + Drain oil. Go to workshop computer, check for recalls and raise service sheet, + print. Connected diag computer to car, reset service light and check for fault codes. Check all wheel bearings, ball joints, bushes, shocks, steering rack etc for play/damage etc. Check brakes discs and pads for wear etc, full visual inspection of underneath. Check tyres record tread depth + adjust pressures, including spare, including taking customers golf clubs etc out of boot to gain access. Check engine + cooling system for leaks, refit under tray. Lower car, change filters, fill with oil, check under bonnet levels screen wash, PAS fluid etc, top up, check battery. Check all lights and wipers and washer and horn, Fill in paper work, road test 4 miles of so, open bonnet quick check for leaks, all good. Stop the clock.
That takes me about an hour, any quicker and you didnt do it all properly.
Our GTi goes in for its first long life service on Monday. 2 years and 15,000 miles.
Wycobme VW quoted £250 ish. But I get 20% discount for being in some club, takes it to just over £200 (inclusive). Then there is a 2 yearly brake fluid change for £69 inc to add on top (which I'm having done as the car is still under warranty).
Nothing additional for the dealer to look at/fix BTW.
Wycobme VW quoted £250 ish. But I get 20% discount for being in some club, takes it to just over £200 (inclusive). Then there is a 2 yearly brake fluid change for £69 inc to add on top (which I'm having done as the car is still under warranty).
Nothing additional for the dealer to look at/fix BTW.
I hear stuff like that all the time, and its really anoiying that people asume all main dealers are like that.
As for the two main dealers I have worked at, Jaguar and Audi (i cant really say where), both have been pretty honest (the odd warranty fiddle to cover something we broke) and really good to our customers.
The front does have to come off all but the newest Passats and all A4's to do the cam belts. Open the bonnet on one and have a look, you try getting your hands in there, and time it up right and get that belt tension just right when you can hardly see the tensioner marks.
As for the two main dealers I have worked at, Jaguar and Audi (i cant really say where), both have been pretty honest (the odd warranty fiddle to cover something we broke) and really good to our customers.
The front does have to come off all but the newest Passats and all A4's to do the cam belts. Open the bonnet on one and have a look, you try getting your hands in there, and time it up right and get that belt tension just right when you can hardly see the tensioner marks.
Tame Technician said:
It doesnt take an hour to change the oil.
It takes an hour to do the service though.
The point is you get 1.1 + 0.2, thats how garages work, you have book times for each task and generally as you do quite a lot you can do the service a bit quicker than the book time. In contrast you get about 3.0 hours to do a TT cam belt and it can take up to 5.
Service goes somthing like this. the technician will print a check sheet and you can ask to see it, and see exactly what gets done.
Find car in car park, fill in body report.
Get car in and raise on ramp, remove undertray + Drain oil. Go to workshop computer, check for recalls and raise service sheet, + print. Connected diag computer to car, reset service light and check for fault codes. Check all wheel bearings, ball joints, bushes, shocks, steering rack etc for play/damage etc. Check brakes discs and pads for wear etc, full visual inspection of underneath. Check tyres record tread depth + adjust pressures, including spare, including taking customers golf clubs etc out of boot to gain access. Check engine + cooling system for leaks, refit under tray. Lower car, change filters, fill with oil, check under bonnet levels screen wash, PAS fluid etc, top up, check battery. Check all lights and wipers and washer and horn, Fill in paper work, road test 4 miles of so, open bonnet quick check for leaks, all good. Stop the clock.
That takes me about an hour, any quicker and you didnt do it all properly.
You missed lubricating the hinges, usually with some horrible white stuff (assume it's lube anyway It takes an hour to do the service though.
The point is you get 1.1 + 0.2, thats how garages work, you have book times for each task and generally as you do quite a lot you can do the service a bit quicker than the book time. In contrast you get about 3.0 hours to do a TT cam belt and it can take up to 5.
Service goes somthing like this. the technician will print a check sheet and you can ask to see it, and see exactly what gets done.
Find car in car park, fill in body report.
Get car in and raise on ramp, remove undertray + Drain oil. Go to workshop computer, check for recalls and raise service sheet, + print. Connected diag computer to car, reset service light and check for fault codes. Check all wheel bearings, ball joints, bushes, shocks, steering rack etc for play/damage etc. Check brakes discs and pads for wear etc, full visual inspection of underneath. Check tyres record tread depth + adjust pressures, including spare, including taking customers golf clubs etc out of boot to gain access. Check engine + cooling system for leaks, refit under tray. Lower car, change filters, fill with oil, check under bonnet levels screen wash, PAS fluid etc, top up, check battery. Check all lights and wipers and washer and horn, Fill in paper work, road test 4 miles of so, open bonnet quick check for leaks, all good. Stop the clock.
That takes me about an hour, any quicker and you didnt do it all properly.
) that looks terrible on a black car, and then charging £5.95 for it. Oh, and similar amount for Brake Cleaner, when "clean brakes" isn't on the checklist. 
I'm very sore about scammed for £250 by a SEAT dealer on additional work for daughter's Ibiza. I'm more annoyed with myself really, as I took it there as the MOT was free as part of their servicing package - I should have known better. And they messed up the MOT renewal and didn't link it to the previous one, so we lost a month. They just shrugged. Oh well, I can scrub the whole of VAG off the family car choice list now.
Deva Link said:
Tame Technician said:
It doesnt take an hour to change the oil.
It takes an hour to do the service though.
The point is you get 1.1 + 0.2, thats how garages work, you have book times for each task and generally as you do quite a lot you can do the service a bit quicker than the book time. In contrast you get about 3.0 hours to do a TT cam belt and it can take up to 5.
Service goes somthing like this. the technician will print a check sheet and you can ask to see it, and see exactly what gets done.
Find car in car park, fill in body report.
Get car in and raise on ramp, remove undertray + Drain oil. Go to workshop computer, check for recalls and raise service sheet, + print. Connected diag computer to car, reset service light and check for fault codes. Check all wheel bearings, ball joints, bushes, shocks, steering rack etc for play/damage etc. Check brakes discs and pads for wear etc, full visual inspection of underneath. Check tyres record tread depth + adjust pressures, including spare, including taking customers golf clubs etc out of boot to gain access. Check engine + cooling system for leaks, refit under tray. Lower car, change filters, fill with oil, check under bonnet levels screen wash, PAS fluid etc, top up, check battery. Check all lights and wipers and washer and horn, Fill in paper work, road test 4 miles of so, open bonnet quick check for leaks, all good. Stop the clock.
That takes me about an hour, any quicker and you didnt do it all properly.
You missed lubricating the hinges, usually with some horrible white stuff (assume it's lube anyway It takes an hour to do the service though.
The point is you get 1.1 + 0.2, thats how garages work, you have book times for each task and generally as you do quite a lot you can do the service a bit quicker than the book time. In contrast you get about 3.0 hours to do a TT cam belt and it can take up to 5.
Service goes somthing like this. the technician will print a check sheet and you can ask to see it, and see exactly what gets done.
Find car in car park, fill in body report.
Get car in and raise on ramp, remove undertray + Drain oil. Go to workshop computer, check for recalls and raise service sheet, + print. Connected diag computer to car, reset service light and check for fault codes. Check all wheel bearings, ball joints, bushes, shocks, steering rack etc for play/damage etc. Check brakes discs and pads for wear etc, full visual inspection of underneath. Check tyres record tread depth + adjust pressures, including spare, including taking customers golf clubs etc out of boot to gain access. Check engine + cooling system for leaks, refit under tray. Lower car, change filters, fill with oil, check under bonnet levels screen wash, PAS fluid etc, top up, check battery. Check all lights and wipers and washer and horn, Fill in paper work, road test 4 miles of so, open bonnet quick check for leaks, all good. Stop the clock.
That takes me about an hour, any quicker and you didnt do it all properly.
) that looks terrible on a black car, and then charging £5.95 for it. Oh, and similar amount for Brake Cleaner, when "clean brakes" isn't on the checklist. .
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