Politicisation of Police - Innocents All or Willing Victims?
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Labour have abandoned their plans for police direct elections because of opposition relating to even further police politicisation.
Which begs the question, how has it got this far? Are senior plod innocent lambs or willing victims? After all some police opposed the idea, so maybe there's hope for braid to grow a pair (since they're still almost all male) and assert the independence that Jacqui Spliff disingenuously held up over the Green affair.
Which begs the question, how has it got this far? Are senior plod innocent lambs or willing victims? After all some police opposed the idea, so maybe there's hope for braid to grow a pair (since they're still almost all male) and assert the independence that Jacqui Spliff disingenuously held up over the Green affair.
After dropping several clangers, here's the link to Smith dropping police politicisation plans:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/dec/18/pol...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/dec/18/pol...
Derek Smith said:
I wonder if Jack Smith sees the irony in her moaning that the directly elected local councillors had frustrated her plans. What she doesn't like is the fact that local policing plans are not utterly controlled by her.
She isn't alone in attempting to exercise such a level of control freakery. The sad thing is, some are more successful. Dropjaw McBrooooon in HM Treasury, for example.Guam said:
Willing victims, you have choices as to whether you become politicised in public office, any Civil Servant knows how to step around this stuff if they choose. Yes Minister was actually not far from the truth.
Any CPO who has slid into PC and being "politicised" only has himself to blame.
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Willing but not victims - actively choosing to be so. Everytime they issue a public statement asking for this law or that law, or that piece of equipment they are being polictical. Everytime they pass comment on a case "they were evil", "we are disappointed with the verdict" they are being polictical. Any CPO who has slid into PC and being "politicised" only has himself to blame.
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Police should be like children they should be seen and not heard.
I suspect it was dropped as she realised she would have less control over the police.
The problem of reversal remains. The next government are going to gain just as much opprobrium if they maintain the current unacceptable level of politicisation, but somehow I can't see Camoron wanting to do lefty social b0ll0x via the police, even when wearing that awful lime green tie. Full independence would be the winning ticket, not just in words but in fact.
So now we have Nu Labian Apparatchik Quick knee-jerking off with misplaced allegations of Tory conspiracies against him, as commentators remark that after more than ten years of incompetent Labout cronyism, the top ranks of police are stuffed with yesmen placemen operting to the manual of political correctness and bowing to Number 10.
Today he gives an unreserved apology, but many say he shdould go, and go he should:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article53...
When the government changes these politicised yes-men to BLIar and Brown must go. Boris's example with Bliar (the displaced Dripping Wet Met not the ex-PM) is a good start.
Politicisation is clearly as deep as you can get in a barrel of rotten apples.
Today he gives an unreserved apology, but many say he shdould go, and go he should:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article53...
When the government changes these politicised yes-men to BLIar and Brown must go. Boris's example with Bliar (the displaced Dripping Wet Met not the ex-PM) is a good start.
Politicisation is clearly as deep as you can get in a barrel of rotten apples.
Bob Quick has embarrassed himself, the Met and the Police generally in this country. Because this involved th Tories directly, Boris won't kick him, but he should resign or be fired. He was clearly promoted way beyond his competence.
I know vh won't be concerned, but he lives in a nice bubble in which he is always right and there is no need for concern about the public's view of the Police.
I know vh won't be concerned, but he lives in a nice bubble in which he is always right and there is no need for concern about the public's view of the Police.
Chrispy Porker said:
They seem to want to 'protect' you, it looks like linky worky everybody elsey.
Then again they're only just down the road from me, they could probably see my keyboard if they looked hard enough.
Afternoon GCHQ!
I used to see the Police looking for criminals, not holding press conferences.
The other month (it was probably ages ago now), the police were holding some conference or other stating that if they decided to prosecute etc.. No-one told this senior officer that the CPS decide whether or not to prosecute then, or was she just spouting off full of self-importance?
It seems to me than senior officers these days seem to be more media managers and inflated egos rather than Police Officers. They cannot and should not get involved in the things they seem to these days.
The other month (it was probably ages ago now), the police were holding some conference or other stating that if they decided to prosecute etc.. No-one told this senior officer that the CPS decide whether or not to prosecute then, or was she just spouting off full of self-importance?
It seems to me than senior officers these days seem to be more media managers and inflated egos rather than Police Officers. They cannot and should not get involved in the things they seem to these days.
Jasandjules said:
It seems to me than senior officers these days seem to be more media managers and inflated egos rather than Police Officers. They cannot and should not get involved in the things they seem to these days.
To me as well, but equally they are almost all nowadays political animals, not good solid coppers, the top ranks are reached via Labour cronyism in effect.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff