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Spiritual_Beggar said:
Saw Mickey Rourke at the airport when we flew back from NY. He was standing on the other side of the conveyor belt.
Are you sure it wasn't Harry Redknapp?www.daylife.com/photo/05Qtcdp6KN6BJ
Los Angeles said:
It's advertised on television commercials as "Mickey Rourke's Great Comeback" which it is but ought to be embarrassing to any professional actor, not only because it draws the wrong attention to his reputation, but also because it ignores the film's content and all who created it.
I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.
There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.
However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.
In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.
Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.
LA
The soundtrack fkin' ROCKED though. And some of the wrestling moves KICKED ASSI treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.
There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.
However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.
In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.
Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.
LA
(read as antedote to the quoted 'film buff' take on the film )
Los Angeles said:
It's advertised on television commercials as "Mickey Rourke's Great Comeback" which it is but ought to be embarrassing to any professional actor, not only because it draws the wrong attention to his reputation, but also because it ignores the film's content and all who created it.
I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.
There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.
However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.
In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.
Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.
LA
Isn't she the stripper woman? I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.
There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.
However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.
In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.
Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.
LA
Evan Rachel Wood plays his daughter?
Edited by sgathore on Wednesday 21st January 19:15
Looking forward to seeing it although a little trepid about whether the film makers have 'got' pro-wrestling..... Yes I used to be massive fan and bit of a nerd 'insider' know-it-all in my early teens.
A will say though that anyone who enjoyed this should watch "Beyond the Mat" a documentary about pro-wrestling which is brilliant - these guys are all real characters. best is a guy called New Jack "yeah I went to jail, I killed four guys, but they were going to kill me".
Also read the book "Pure Dynamite" by Tom Billington (AKA The Dynamite Kid one of the British Bulldogs)- very saddening, very shocking and very eye-opening about a closed off world.
A will say though that anyone who enjoyed this should watch "Beyond the Mat" a documentary about pro-wrestling which is brilliant - these guys are all real characters. best is a guy called New Jack "yeah I went to jail, I killed four guys, but they were going to kill me".
Also read the book "Pure Dynamite" by Tom Billington (AKA The Dynamite Kid one of the British Bulldogs)- very saddening, very shocking and very eye-opening about a closed off world.
Los Angeles said:
It's advertised on television commercials as "Mickey Rourke's Great Comeback" which it is but ought to be embarrassing to any professional actor, not only because it draws the wrong attention to his reputation, but also because it ignores the film's content and all who created it.
I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.
There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.
However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.
In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.
Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.
LA
So Mickey has an affair with a pole dancer played by his daughter. Ay Carumba!!!!I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.
There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.
However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.
In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.
Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.
LA
Los Angeles said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
He wasn't really a 'Washed up' actor though was he. He just left acting to pursue a career in Boxing. It was his choice. But I get the point you're trying to make
Hi SB. According to interviews he is giving he was shunned by his profession for his behaviour and pronouncements, was forced back to boxing out of bankruptcy, got his face mashed, underwent plastic surgery, and came out looking like a battered turnip.
His past recklessness involved his dislike of the profession, speaking out too often, and his support of the IRA when filming in Ireland that was the last straw for the Hollywood career makers and breakers. Remember, if you can get ostracised for leaping up and down on a sofa in a chat show, (Cruise) telling reporters acting is infantile not a man's pursuit, invariably means sudden death. I note his fee for The Wrestler is "non-declared," meaning he accepted below minimum to get back into the profession.
He's still a fine actor ... what lies ahead for him is questionable. More support roles as a second banana?
Los Angeles said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
He wasn't really a 'Washed up' actor though was he. He just left acting to pursue a career in Boxing. It was his choice. But I get the point you're trying to make
Hi SB. According to interviews he is giving he was shunned by his profession for his behaviour and pronouncements, was forced back to boxing out of bankruptcy, got his face mashed, underwent plastic surgery, and came out looking like a battered turnip.
His past recklessness involved his dislike of the profession, speaking out too often, and his support of the IRA when filming in Ireland that was the last straw for the Hollywood career makers and breakers. Remember, if you can get ostracised for leaping up and down on a sofa in a chat show, (Cruise) telling reporters acting is infantile not a man's pursuit, invariably means sudden death. I note his fee for The Wrestler is "non-declared," meaning he accepted below minimum to get back into the profession.
He's still a fine actor ... what lies ahead for him is questionable. More support roles as a second banana?
Thats quite interesting actually.
Ta for that
Los Angeles said:
ViperScot said:
What about Sin City?
And I think a few other minor roles, usually with one of his lapdogs in his hand at his insistence. The Wrestler is the first he has starred in, in fifteen years, I believe, and that's the difference. Can Mickey Rourke carry a movie as the name above the title? This movie is a low-budget indie, $3 million.Los Angeles said:
In accepting his Golden Globule he said his dogs were often his only friends, so much so he admits in a press interview to giving mouth-to-mouth to one dog on the point of death. It died. He wept. Dog loyalty gets you that way.
The thing is;The dog was normal before he started giving it mouth to mouth
Just saw this, found it enjoyable for the most part but a few problems almost ruin it for me, the rather contrived and predictable relationship with his daughter felt rushed, I felt he won her over too quickly. A little more fleshing out would have improved it no end.
I also hated the way the stripper finally came round to him in the end, far too hollywood for my liking. Her turning him down had far more emotional impact and felt more 'realistic' to me.
Marisa Tomei still looks great though.
I also hated the way the stripper finally came round to him in the end, far too hollywood for my liking. Her turning him down had far more emotional impact and felt more 'realistic' to me.
Marisa Tomei still looks great though.
Just found this thread and I hated it so much I thought I would repost something I said elsewhere about this wretched pile of crap:
This film is utterly ste.
It has no redeeming features.
A couple of people have said to me in a pathetic whiney voice "No, no- its not about wrestling. It just happens to have wrestling in it....its a bout a mans struggle blah blah lesbian blah"
It is about wrestling.
Some writers have sat down and said "Lets make one of those really cliched films where an aging sportsman tries to make a comeback while alienating his family and having a really stty life blah blah blah. Right, we've done footballers, we've done boxers, erm- lets do a wrestler. blah blah fking blah"
COntrary to popular wking Mikey Rourke is not actually brilliant as his fking face no longer moves. How can you act without a working face?
Boring, tired, cliche'd, uninteresting ste wrsestling film for children.
Rubbish.
.
This film is utterly ste.
It has no redeeming features.
A couple of people have said to me in a pathetic whiney voice "No, no- its not about wrestling. It just happens to have wrestling in it....its a bout a mans struggle blah blah lesbian blah"
It is about wrestling.
Some writers have sat down and said "Lets make one of those really cliched films where an aging sportsman tries to make a comeback while alienating his family and having a really stty life blah blah blah. Right, we've done footballers, we've done boxers, erm- lets do a wrestler. blah blah fking blah"
COntrary to popular wking Mikey Rourke is not actually brilliant as his fking face no longer moves. How can you act without a working face?
Boring, tired, cliche'd, uninteresting ste wrsestling film for children.
Rubbish.
.
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