The Wrestler

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ViperScot

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Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Saw 'The Wrestler' film on Sunday night. I thought it was fantastic. Anyone else seen it? Fairly depressing stuff at times but you also get the 'at any cost' attitude to competing that these guys have. Mickey Rourke is really good in to too.

rickybouy

266 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Saw it last week fella!!! amazing performance by micky , who would of thought!!! oscar i reckon, bit depressing but utterly believable!!! quality, slum dog millonaire is also worth a shout wink

J-Tuner

2,855 posts

244 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Brilliant film, if a little grim/depressing at times - definately worth seeing IMO. I was surprised how good Mickey Rourke was to be honest.

Slumdog Millionare is also very good.

Adam B

27,319 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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J-Tuner said:
I was surprised how good Mickey Rourke was to be honest.
wizened old has-been boxer cum actor plays wizened old has-been wrestler well shocker smile

Slagathore

5,821 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Saw this last week!

Rourke was excellent in it!

I did find it a bit boring and predictable.

Definitely worth a watch, though.

Civpilot

6,235 posts

241 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Thought it was a brilliant film.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Saw Mickey Rourke at the airport when we flew back from NY. He was standing on the other side of the conveyor belt.

I've heard its a brilliant film. Plan on seeing it this weekend.

Noel

582 posts

254 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Spiritual_Beggar said:
Saw Mickey Rourke at the airport when we flew back from NY. He was standing on the other side of the conveyor belt.
Are you sure it wasn't Harry Redknapp?
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ViperScot

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238 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
It's advertised on television commercials as "Mickey Rourke's Great Comeback" which it is but ought to be embarrassing to any professional actor, not only because it draws the wrong attention to his reputation, but also because it ignores the film's content and all who created it.

I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.

There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.

However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.

In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.

Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.

smile LA
The soundtrack fkin' ROCKED though. And some of the wrestling moves KICKED ASS

(read as antedote to the quoted 'film buff' take on the film wink)

Slagathore

5,821 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
It's advertised on television commercials as "Mickey Rourke's Great Comeback" which it is but ought to be embarrassing to any professional actor, not only because it draws the wrong attention to his reputation, but also because it ignores the film's content and all who created it.

I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.

There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.

However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.

In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.

Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.

smile LA
Isn't she the stripper woman?

Evan Rachel Wood plays his daughter?

Edited by sgathore on Wednesday 21st January 19:15

Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Looking forward to seeing it although a little trepid about whether the film makers have 'got' pro-wrestling..... Yes I used to be massive fan and bit of a nerd 'insider' know-it-all in my early teens.

A will say though that anyone who enjoyed this should watch "Beyond the Mat" a documentary about pro-wrestling which is brilliant - these guys are all real characters. best is a guy called New Jack "yeah I went to jail, I killed four guys, but they were going to kill me".

Also read the book "Pure Dynamite" by Tom Billington (AKA The Dynamite Kid one of the British Bulldogs)- very saddening, very shocking and very eye-opening about a closed off world.

croyde

23,021 posts

231 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
It's advertised on television commercials as "Mickey Rourke's Great Comeback" which it is but ought to be embarrassing to any professional actor, not only because it draws the wrong attention to his reputation, but also because it ignores the film's content and all who created it.

I treated it with a degree of cynicism: You want to make a sports saga about a washed up wrestler's comeback? Employ a washed up actor. The script, banal in places, mechanical in others, was conceived for him.

There's no doubting Rourke's performamce is total, body and soul, visceral to the point I had to turn my gaze away in moments when a stapler is used on flesh, yet I squirmed at the cliches, the maudlin heart-on-sleeve sentimentality - look it's me, Mickey, I want to be loved again.

However, the film's obsession with the mortification of the flesh is given some spirituality in the role of Rourke's abandonded, hostile daughter played by Marisa Tomei, a big-hearted pole dancer. It's not really successful as a sub-plot but for me it added a dimension the rest missed.

In the end I surmised the film was all about ... showbiz.

Worth seeing but add a lot of salt to your popcorn.

smile LA
So Mickey has an affair with a pole dancer played by his daughter. Ay Carumba!!!!

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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He wasn't really a 'Washed up' actor though was he.

He just left acting to pursue a career in Boxing. It was his choice.

But I get the point you're trying to make wink

ViperScot

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Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
He wasn't really a 'Washed up' actor though was he. He just left acting to pursue a career in Boxing. It was his choice. But I get the point you're trying to make wink
Hi SB.

According to interviews he is giving he was shunned by his profession for his behaviour and pronouncements, was forced back to boxing out of bankruptcy, got his face mashed, underwent plastic surgery, and came out looking like a battered turnip.

His past recklessness involved his dislike of the profession, speaking out too often, and his support of the IRA when filming in Ireland that was the last straw for the Hollywood career makers and breakers. Remember, if you can get ostracised for leaping up and down on a sofa in a chat show, (Cruise) telling reporters acting is infantile not a man's pursuit, invariably means sudden death. I note his fee for The Wrestler is "non-declared," meaning he accepted below minimum to get back into the profession.

He's still a fine actor ... what lies ahead for him is questionable. More support roles as a second banana?
It's not really his comeback film since starting boxing, is it? What about Sin City?

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
He wasn't really a 'Washed up' actor though was he. He just left acting to pursue a career in Boxing. It was his choice. But I get the point you're trying to make wink
Hi SB.

According to interviews he is giving he was shunned by his profession for his behaviour and pronouncements, was forced back to boxing out of bankruptcy, got his face mashed, underwent plastic surgery, and came out looking like a battered turnip.

His past recklessness involved his dislike of the profession, speaking out too often, and his support of the IRA when filming in Ireland that was the last straw for the Hollywood career makers and breakers. Remember, if you can get ostracised for leaping up and down on a sofa in a chat show, (Cruise) telling reporters acting is infantile not a man's pursuit, invariably means sudden death. I note his fee for The Wrestler is "non-declared," meaning he accepted below minimum to get back into the profession.

He's still a fine actor ... what lies ahead for him is questionable. More support roles as a second banana?
Didnt know that.


Thats quite interesting actually.

Ta for that wink

G'kar

3,728 posts

187 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
ViperScot said:
What about Sin City?
And I think a few other minor roles, usually with one of his lapdogs in his hand at his insistence. The Wrestler is the first he has starred in, in fifteen years, I believe, and that's the difference. Can Mickey Rourke carry a movie as the name above the title? This movie is a low-budget indie, $3 million.
Wouldn't say he was minor in Sin City, great performance that got him noticed again.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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And don't forget Kill Bill too.

WTF was that little dog all about though biggrin

Spiritual_Beggar

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195 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
In accepting his Golden Globule he said his dogs were often his only friends, so much so he admits in a press interview to giving mouth-to-mouth to one dog on the point of death. It died. He wept. Dog loyalty gets you that way.

smile
The thing is;

The dog was normal before he started giving it mouth to mouth

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MoesTavern

161 posts

195 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Just saw this, found it enjoyable for the most part but a few problems almost ruin it for me, the rather contrived and predictable relationship with his daughter felt rushed, I felt he won her over too quickly. A little more fleshing out would have improved it no end.

I also hated the way the stripper finally came round to him in the end, far too hollywood for my liking. Her turning him down had far more emotional impact and felt more 'realistic' to me.

Marisa Tomei still looks great though.


blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Just found this thread and I hated it so much I thought I would repost something I said elsewhere about this wretched pile of crap:

This film is utterly ste.
It has no redeeming features.
A couple of people have said to me in a pathetic whiney voice "No, no- its not about wrestling. It just happens to have wrestling in it....its a bout a mans struggle blah blah lesbian blah"

It is about wrestling.
Some writers have sat down and said "Lets make one of those really cliched films where an aging sportsman tries to make a comeback while alienating his family and having a really stty life blah blah blah. Right, we've done footballers, we've done boxers, erm- lets do a wrestler. blah blah fking blah"

COntrary to popular wking Mikey Rourke is not actually brilliant as his fking face no longer moves. How can you act without a working face?

Boring, tired, cliche'd, uninteresting ste wrsestling film for children.
Rubbish.
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