chuffed, just fixed my mortgage for 5 years @3.99%

chuffed, just fixed my mortgage for 5 years @3.99%

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sussexjob

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2,009 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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they have to go up...well they can't go down..great deal from hsbc and no I dont work for em

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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What kind of borrowing was that if you dont mind me asking??

Mines due for renewal soon so hoping the rates stay similar for a while

sussexjob

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2,009 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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that's up to 250k, it's just come on the market but i don't think it will be there long.

Swoxy

2,805 posts

212 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Did you have to pay any fees?

Kermit power

28,883 posts

215 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Is that a good deal? confused

Ours is on base rate +1.34%, so we're currently paying 1.84%. No doubt rates are likely to go up rather than down over the next 5 years, but I can't see them going up that far that quickly, surely?

sussexjob

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2,009 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Kermit power said:
Is that a good deal? confused

Ours is on base rate +1.34%, so we're currently paying 1.84%. No doubt rates are likely to go up rather than down over the next 5 years, but I can't see them going up that far that quickly, surely?
You may note think so at this moment in time, but if the base rate goes up to 2.5% you will be paying roughly the same, once the base rate goes up 1% common sense says that mortgage providers will pull products as there will be a mad scramble,my crystal ball thinks 6-8% after the Election, Someone has to pay..it may be you, but definatley not me..sleep well, (I will for 5 years).

Road Pest

3,123 posts

200 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Sounds reasonable for a 5 yr fix.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Think I'll stick with base + .29% for now!

jazzybee

3,056 posts

251 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Kermit power said:
Is that a good deal? confused

Ours is on base rate +1.34%, so we're currently paying 1.84%. No doubt rates are likely to go up rather than down over the next 5 years, but I can't see them going up that far that quickly, surely?
Bank of England remit from the government is to try to target CPI at around 2.00% They have used the interest rates to try to achieve this. Last month the CPI increased from 3.00% to 3.20%. We are a net importer as a nation, and with the relative 30% drop in the value of sterling, in theory, importers would need to drop prices by 30% to maintain prices - this in the longer term is unrealistic, so we will continue to see general increases in prices that contribute to the CPI. 'IF' the Bank of England remains independent from the politics, still having to work to their 2.00% CPI target, then rates will have to go up, and may have to go up sharply - hence, many are keen to secure themselves on fixed rate mortgages (like myself), particularly those that remember rate increases through August 1989.

Just my view as a layperson - I am by no means an expert on the subject.

Fittster

20,120 posts

215 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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So then you don't think we are following Japan then? They have had very low interest rates for decades after their boom went bust.

Kermit power

28,883 posts

215 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Fittster said:
So then you don't think we are following Japan then? They have had very low interest rates for decades after their boom went bust.
That's one of the things I've been wondering. I've been trying to find a website that shows the central bank borrowing rates over time for various major economies, but I've not been able to find one. There can't be all that many examples of developed economies dropping their base rates to effectively zero, but it would be interesting to see whether or not Japan is atypical once they do.

jazzybee

3,056 posts

251 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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The differences for us is the mandate of the Bank of England and its so called 'independence' and whether that and the mandate, remains. Then there is the currency valuation - and whether it continues to fall and the likely inflation that follows given our lack of production. Another difference is Japan produced a lot more, and I believe is a net exporter so could maintain price levels with a low interest rate, which I don't think the UK can. An upside, if this situation does develop in the way Japan did, is a return to UK production. With increased import prices, low interest rates (and if liquidity returns to business lending), and greater abundance of empty commercial property at lower rents, I can see an important return/significant strengthening of a British Manufacturing sector. Something the UK economy really does need.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

254 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Kermit power said:
Is that a good deal? confused

Ours is on base rate +1.34%, so we're currently paying 1.84%.
ask that again when the base is at 8%!

3.99 is superb at 5 years....the second we get a rise the lenders will start offering 6/7 % fixes.

Kermit power

28,883 posts

215 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Tiggsy said:
Kermit power said:
Is that a good deal? confused

Ours is on base rate +1.34%, so we're currently paying 1.84%.
ask that again when the base is at 8%!

3.99 is superb at 5 years....the second we get a rise the lenders will start offering 6/7 % fixes.
I suppose it all comes down to how much those of us on trackers can manage to overpay before the rates go back up.

Olf

11,974 posts

220 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Kermit power said:
Tiggsy said:
Kermit power said:
Is that a good deal? confused

Ours is on base rate +1.34%, so we're currently paying 1.84%.
ask that again when the base is at 8%!

3.99 is superb at 5 years....the second we get a rise the lenders will start offering 6/7 % fixes.
I suppose it all comes down to how much those of us on trackers can manage to overpay before the rates go back up.
I think the this guy has done the right thing if just a bit early. I think we've got 4 - 6 months of low interest rates and then inflation will whack us hard and interest rates will follow. I planning to do the same as the OP and I'm .6 or .8 above base - can't remember which. In fact I was doing some scenario planning today in excel.

russ_a

4,601 posts

213 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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i fixed just before the crash at 6% frown

Got a 6k get out clause too!!! - Costing me £200 a month - Still trying to work out if its better to move.

Looked at the HSBC site and couldn't see the rate mentioned fixed for 5 years.

Coco H

4,237 posts

239 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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You can negotiate with HSBC.

groucho

12,134 posts

248 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Coco H said:
You can negotiate with HSBC.
My gut feeling says don't bother, stick with what you have.

VTECMatt

1,188 posts

240 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Sensible choice if the rates do rocket.
I went for a flexible mortgage May last year currently on a Tracker at 1%, any sniff the rates going up I will switch to a fixed. I personally have saved over 2K excluding any over payments to date, another 6 months another 3K, long may it continue but I doubt these low rates will last much longer than a year.

Edited by VTECMatt on Saturday 28th March 21:09

m4tt

591 posts

200 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Coco H said:
You can negotiate with HSBC.
On what basis are you making that statement? Worked for them for a number of years, and never came across negotiation for residential mortgages, not saying it doesn't happen just never come across it personally.