Runflat puncture expense
Discussion
B*gger! Only 3,000 miles and 'beep' up comes warning light.
Ruddy great industrial cable tack in rear tyre, picked up in 'public' car park used by site workers on large development opposite the car park.
Our MINI JCW is on Runflat Dunlop SP Sport 01's - jeez they are not cheap, one place quoted 220 quid! What's really p*ssed me off though is the more normal fitment Continental Runflats are allowed now to be repaired (provided puncture is the usual tack nail screw whatever in the tread).
But any other make of Runflat. NO WAY!
One fitter told me it was more than his job was worth, but agreed with me that if Continental think it's ok now to repair simple normal punctures, then it should be same for all.
Could be expensive. Imagine the person with bad luck who has half a dozen punctures in succession.
Looks like it should be wheels'tyres on ebay and a new set alloys with 'normal' tyres. Pay for itself in no time!
Ruddy great industrial cable tack in rear tyre, picked up in 'public' car park used by site workers on large development opposite the car park.
Our MINI JCW is on Runflat Dunlop SP Sport 01's - jeez they are not cheap, one place quoted 220 quid! What's really p*ssed me off though is the more normal fitment Continental Runflats are allowed now to be repaired (provided puncture is the usual tack nail screw whatever in the tread).
But any other make of Runflat. NO WAY!
One fitter told me it was more than his job was worth, but agreed with me that if Continental think it's ok now to repair simple normal punctures, then it should be same for all.
Could be expensive. Imagine the person with bad luck who has half a dozen punctures in succession.
Looks like it should be wheels'tyres on ebay and a new set alloys with 'normal' tyres. Pay for itself in no time!
I must have different size then. Cannot find any at that price.
Cheapest(!!!) so far is £164 online (at least it's coming down!!).
I'm gonna keep looking see if I can find a pair for 200 mark.
Size is 205/45/R17 84W on 58 reg JCW.
Dunlop can go run flat!
Bl**dy annoying when all it is is right in the centreline - still got 8mm of tread!
(as one fitter said today, 'can't repair but on a non-runflat that would be considered a very minor easy repair in that position on the tread.
You got a runflat hardly run-in!'
Didn't think that was funny His best price fitted was 188 and he would have to order. I left.
Cheapest(!!!) so far is £164 online (at least it's coming down!!).
I'm gonna keep looking see if I can find a pair for 200 mark.
Size is 205/45/R17 84W on 58 reg JCW.
Dunlop can go run flat!
Bl**dy annoying when all it is is right in the centreline - still got 8mm of tread!
(as one fitter said today, 'can't repair but on a non-runflat that would be considered a very minor easy repair in that position on the tread.
You got a runflat hardly run-in!'
Didn't think that was funny
His best price fitted was 188 and he would have to order. I left. Hi , James from Dunlop here:
Goodyear and Dunlop RunOnFlat tyres are repairable.Goodyear Dunlop recommends that RunOnFlat tyres be changed after they have been used under deflated conditions. However, we understand that customers might want to repair their RunOnFlat tyres for cost reasons.
Unless otherwise specified in the car owner's manual, Goodyear and Dunlop RunOnFlat tyres can be repaired by a qualified tyre professional after a thorough inspection and analysis of the tyre history. In case of doubt the tyre should not be repaired. The professional who is going to repair the tyre will be responsible for his work in any case.
Goodyear Dunlop doesn't support tyre repairs …
• outside the tread area
• if the inside or outside of the tyre sidewall area has been damaged by a sharp object
• if the tyre has been run at low or zero pressure for a distance longer than recommended in the vehicle’s manual or at a higher speed than recommended.. The driver has to provide the necessary information.
• if the innerliner looks damaged or rough
• if there is any damage that would make a standard tyre not repairable
Most standard tyres, particularly ultra high performance tyres, are also replaced after a puncture, especially if the tyre has been driven without pressure.
I hope this guidance catches you in time.
Regards
James
Goodyear and Dunlop RunOnFlat tyres are repairable.Goodyear Dunlop recommends that RunOnFlat tyres be changed after they have been used under deflated conditions. However, we understand that customers might want to repair their RunOnFlat tyres for cost reasons.
Unless otherwise specified in the car owner's manual, Goodyear and Dunlop RunOnFlat tyres can be repaired by a qualified tyre professional after a thorough inspection and analysis of the tyre history. In case of doubt the tyre should not be repaired. The professional who is going to repair the tyre will be responsible for his work in any case.
Goodyear Dunlop doesn't support tyre repairs …
• outside the tread area
• if the inside or outside of the tyre sidewall area has been damaged by a sharp object
• if the tyre has been run at low or zero pressure for a distance longer than recommended in the vehicle’s manual or at a higher speed than recommended.. The driver has to provide the necessary information.
• if the innerliner looks damaged or rough
• if there is any damage that would make a standard tyre not repairable
Most standard tyres, particularly ultra high performance tyres, are also replaced after a puncture, especially if the tyre has been driven without pressure.
I hope this guidance catches you in time.
Regards
James
Interesting - many thanks.
I did order one online from Camskill hoping to get it before hol weekend - however, I suppose I should have expected this:
you pay via credit/debit card then get a reply that the money hasn't actually been taken just yet... ie: until it's in stock
...wonderful!
I think it's all wrong online companies advertising goods when they have no idea if it's stocked.
I can cancel order I think, and may just do that now seeing as I've paid (sort of!) - if I can get it repaired.
I did order one online from Camskill hoping to get it before hol weekend - however, I suppose I should have expected this:
you pay via credit/debit card then get a reply that the money hasn't actually been taken just yet... ie: until it's in stock
...wonderful!
I think it's all wrong online companies advertising goods when they have no idea if it's stocked.
I can cancel order I think, and may just do that now seeing as I've paid (sort of!) - if I can get it repaired.
Update.
My new Dunlop RoF tyre has been delivered and decided to get it fitted.
After printing off and showing this (Dunlop) blurb on here I can now get the puncture mended, so I will keep the repaired tyre as a spare now.
Sorry, I got it wrong - I thought fitter said Continental - he didn't, he said Michelin.
I think I got Continental in my head because that is the usual fitment on MINI.
I don't want to name/shame the fitter. I don't think it's his fault, and he's always helpful. The problem is the message is not out there. It should be!
I can't remember which, but I think it's AUTOCAR's new long term MINI JCW that had a Runflat puncture recently? I read a write up complaining about the cost of the replacement tyre in the region of nearly 200 quid. That can easily be checked by contacting the magazine. Not sure what make of tyres their car is on.
I have just done a bit of online searching and it appears a most confused message about runflats when they get punctured. The message to the uninitiated (as I was before this) is that once punctured the tyre can only be replaced.
Here's link to etyres online site. How many read this?
Actually, look at the first headline about Michelin!
http://www.etyres.co.uk/consumer-information/punct...
You could get Dunlop a large chunk of free publicity now by contacting all the mags with a statement to clear up this puncture repair confusion.
By the way, I think the SP Sport 01 is a tremendous tyre. The grip both dry and wet is superb. I'm told they don't wear too well. Time will tell.
I was surprised my JCW had Dunlops, I expected Continentals.
Perhaps, after all, I have got the better tyre?
My new Dunlop RoF tyre has been delivered and decided to get it fitted.
After printing off and showing this (Dunlop) blurb on here I can now get the puncture mended, so I will keep the repaired tyre as a spare now.
Sorry, I got it wrong - I thought fitter said Continental - he didn't, he said Michelin.
I think I got Continental in my head because that is the usual fitment on MINI.
I don't want to name/shame the fitter. I don't think it's his fault, and he's always helpful. The problem is the message is not out there. It should be!
I can't remember which, but I think it's AUTOCAR's new long term MINI JCW that had a Runflat puncture recently? I read a write up complaining about the cost of the replacement tyre in the region of nearly 200 quid. That can easily be checked by contacting the magazine. Not sure what make of tyres their car is on.
I have just done a bit of online searching and it appears a most confused message about runflats when they get punctured. The message to the uninitiated (as I was before this) is that once punctured the tyre can only be replaced.
Here's link to etyres online site. How many read this?
Actually, look at the first headline about Michelin!
http://www.etyres.co.uk/consumer-information/punct...
You could get Dunlop a large chunk of free publicity now by contacting all the mags with a statement to clear up this puncture repair confusion.
By the way, I think the SP Sport 01 is a tremendous tyre. The grip both dry and wet is superb. I'm told they don't wear too well. Time will tell.
I was surprised my JCW had Dunlops, I expected Continentals.
Perhaps, after all, I have got the better tyre?
nickfrog said:
Ditch the run flats all together and sell the tyres on ebay. Conti SC3s non-RF in 17 (BMW/Mini approved) can be bought for less than £125 each.
It will transform the car's handling and ride.
This^It will transform the car's handling and ride.
I was eating through run flats on our MCS, now on Avon zz3's and the ride is amazing next to the run flats quite and smooth and the biggest thing for me is no tram lining anymore.
fatpasty said:
It's time for me to change tyres. All four of my run flats are pretty much had it. Want to change to normal tyres. Any recommendations on the best value for money tyre on the market or just any real info on what is best for the car etc.
I have an R53 MCS.
Cheers
I would also be interested in this, not necessarily the 'best' (expensive) tyre, but something at a more reasonable price (£70-90/tyre) that would still be much better than the run flat.I have an R53 MCS.
Cheers
fatpasty said:
& thesehttp://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I'm glad I went for the non run flat 215/40/17 vredestein ultrac sessanta in the end, amazing transformation.
I've been using Dunlop Sport 01's for a couple of years now, normally get 18,000miles out of a set if rotated properly. Never had an inssue with wear on them and their wet and dry handling is really good.
I was told by a MINI main dealer that you can't repair run flats though, so the message is definitely not being heard clearly out there regarding repairs.
Having had several puncture incidents I would not swap my run flats.
I tend to use Event-tyres.co.uk or black circles for my tyres after a very bad experience with the local kwik fit (they managed to damage the rims of all but one of my alloys and refused to accept responsibility). Wouldn't touch kwik fit with a barge pole now.
I was told by a MINI main dealer that you can't repair run flats though, so the message is definitely not being heard clearly out there regarding repairs.
Having had several puncture incidents I would not swap my run flats.
I tend to use Event-tyres.co.uk or black circles for my tyres after a very bad experience with the local kwik fit (they managed to damage the rims of all but one of my alloys and refused to accept responsibility). Wouldn't touch kwik fit with a barge pole now.
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