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I've eaten quite a lot of raw meat over the years - mainly the stuff you can have "rare" Beef, Lamb, (farmed)venison and of course fish. I also can't help but pick at bacon which tastes much better raw but I understand there is a chance of worms with that.
Me and my previous cat would love to share a nice uncooked Aberdeen Angus Fillet cut into nice thin strips in front of the telly. (To be fair I don't think he was that fussed on the telly, except for top gear, was fascinated by the stig laps for some reason, but I digress).
I haven't eaten any poultry raw (except eggs - two raw eggs in a pint of milk is very nice) although a friend of mine reckons raw chicken breast actually tastes of something.
Just wondering what else is safe to eat raw and I suppose we might as well hear about what people have eaten raw and perhaps shouldn't have. (flies don't count)
Me and my previous cat would love to share a nice uncooked Aberdeen Angus Fillet cut into nice thin strips in front of the telly. (To be fair I don't think he was that fussed on the telly, except for top gear, was fascinated by the stig laps for some reason, but I digress).
I haven't eaten any poultry raw (except eggs - two raw eggs in a pint of milk is very nice) although a friend of mine reckons raw chicken breast actually tastes of something.
Just wondering what else is safe to eat raw and I suppose we might as well hear about what people have eaten raw and perhaps shouldn't have. (flies don't count)
Raw chicken risks Salmonella. Survivable if you are fit and healthy, but I can't see the taste being worth the risk.
Raw pork, as you say, risks parasitic worms, and again I don't see any upside. Bacon should be a bit safer, but why?
Have you tried Sushi and Sashimi? Very nice, but you can get parasites from them- I remember a horrible case in Japan where a bloke got, basically, a head full of maggots from it. He did survive, after they chopped the top of his skull off and cleaned him up...
Beyond steak tartare and sashimi, I'd stick to (just) cooked or ceviche (marinated in citrus juice, which sort-of cooks it).
Raw garlic is interesting and safe, but you'll reek of it for days.
Raw pork, as you say, risks parasitic worms, and again I don't see any upside. Bacon should be a bit safer, but why?
Have you tried Sushi and Sashimi? Very nice, but you can get parasites from them- I remember a horrible case in Japan where a bloke got, basically, a head full of maggots from it. He did survive, after they chopped the top of his skull off and cleaned him up...
Beyond steak tartare and sashimi, I'd stick to (just) cooked or ceviche (marinated in citrus juice, which sort-of cooks it).
Raw garlic is interesting and safe, but you'll reek of it for days.
grumbledoak said:
Bacon should be a bit safer, but why?
Do you mean Why is bacon safer or why eat it? If it's why eat it then it's down to flavour, whilst I appreciate the smell of cooking bacon the flavour at the end is nothing like that of raw - but it's a rare treat as, as I said I understand the potential risk.
Matt172 said:
depends where you eat it, they eat raw chicken in Japan, where I believe there is no risk of salmonella in chickens
The Japanese eat a lot of revolting stuff. And I'd doubt they are truly free of Salmonella, it is just a disease, and it'll travel around the world in the same way as all the others.I've had dodgy eggs once, probably Salmonella-based according to a mate's OH (nurse) who ate the same. Twelve hours after eating them your body wants it out. Seriously. Out of any orifice, with considerable force. And it doesn't stop until you are truly empty. Horrible. But, the synchronicity of the two of us, miles apart, running for the bathroom at 2am was quite funny after the fact.
grumbledoak said:
Matt172 said:
depends where you eat it, they eat raw chicken in Japan, where I believe there is no risk of salmonella in chickens
The Japanese eat a lot of revolting stuff. And I'd doubt they are truly free of Salmonella, it is just a disease, and it'll travel around the world in the same way as all the others.I've had dodgy eggs once, probably Salmonella-based according to a mate's OH (nurse) who ate the same. Twelve hours after eating them your body wants it out. Seriously. Out of any orifice, with considerable force. And it doesn't stop until you are truly empty. Horrible. But, the synchronicity of the two of us, miles apart, running for the bathroom at 2am was quite funny after the fact.
t cook. One day about 20 friends travelled with said mate to his other house for a party. His mum had made a huge vat chicken soup for everyone. She's made it badly. Everyone came down with Salmonella poisoning, apart from my mate who just sat there wondering what all the fuss was about! It wasn't a one off occurrence either - I've never know him to be ill from food, even when sharing off food. Lesson is eat st all your life, get your body used to it LOL
gopher said:
TBH to me if it doesn't smell good raw then there's no way I'm going to eat it raw or cooked. I always thought one of the best tests of well hung\prepared meat was the smell?
Following that line of reasoning, next time any of you is shopping for fresh fish, look closely and see whether you'd be happy to eat that particular piece as sushi. Errrr - no thanks. I'm still surprised how bad fish generally is in the high street/supermarket. If you have a good fishmonger close to you, buy from them regularly to ensure they stay in business.
grumbledoak said:
Matt172 said:
depends where you eat it, they eat raw chicken in Japan, where I believe there is no risk of salmonella in chickens
The Japanese eat a lot of revolting stuff. And I'd doubt they are truly free of Salmonella, it is just a disease, and it'll travel around the world in the same way as all the others.I've had dodgy eggs once, probably Salmonella-based according to a mate's OH (nurse) who ate the same. Twelve hours after eating them your body wants it out. Seriously. Out of any orifice, with considerable force. And it doesn't stop until you are truly empty. Horrible. But, the synchronicity of the two of us, miles apart, running for the bathroom at 2am was quite funny after the fact.
There is a traditional way of the raw cooking in Japan- Tataki (similar to sashimi) . Needless to say, if we eat raw meat, then it should be very fresh. The Chicken Tataki have to be quite safe. (otherwise the restaurants or shops would be forced to closed by public health centre) Japanese eggs are also supposed to be eaten raw, so they are pretreated with proper way. Also raw chicken liver sashimi (should be VERY fresh) is popular menu in Izakaya among Japanese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tataki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamago_kake_gohan
Let me repeat this : Of course, every meat‘s precondition should be VERY fresh though!
(and also depends on the country, treating of the meat is different. So not always it is promised that we can eat raw meat)
There are diverse eating patterns, so I won't force someone who thinks raw meat is revolting to eat, but I'm very happy to know the various kind of the tastes.
FYI - Oh traditional recipe of the Tiramisu is contained raw egg.
Edited by underneath2424 on Sunday 19th July 02:04
underneath2424 said:
Oh thx mate -
Sorry, I wasn't referring to sashimi. I'm rather fond of it, in truth.I meant Japan's more esoteric delicacies, which to us belong in zoos (or possibly at the bottom of the ocean). For example, was it really necessary to work out that cod's seminal fluid was edible?
whwnever i go to the netherlands i seem to live off carpaccio. pretty much every restaurant serves it - plenty of it, decent quality, and cheap too.
i love cured ham [parma, serrano etc.], especially the end slice thats dried in the air. i sometimes leave slices out to dry then eat the mall as a snack.
i couldn't eat raw chicken, but that'd be a texture issue and the fact it would be bland.
i once made sushi using salmon from tesco's fish counter. i can't imagine i'd repeat the experience as its a bit too russian roulette.
i love cured ham [parma, serrano etc.], especially the end slice thats dried in the air. i sometimes leave slices out to dry then eat the mall as a snack.
i couldn't eat raw chicken, but that'd be a texture issue and the fact it would be bland.
i once made sushi using salmon from tesco's fish counter. i can't imagine i'd repeat the experience as its a bit too russian roulette.
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