brake upgrade problem - help required
brake upgrade problem - help required
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magpies

Original Poster:

5,204 posts

211 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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bought new discs (283mm) and 4pot calipers (7R) from different places a while ago and just got round to fitting and guess what - they dont




both discs and calipers were supposed to fit the Sierra Cossy - they do fit individually but not together as the mounting positions overlap - the 'top hat' on the disc is 32.6mm which is very close (within a mm) to the original 240mm disc dimension

any ideas as to how I can sort this out??

Ant.

5,254 posts

310 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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I presume this is on an "S"?

Does it have sierra uprights like the Griff/Chim?

If so, many have tried to fit the 2wd cosworth calipers and found that they dont fit. The cosworth had a different upright from the standard sierra. My advice, get some Granada cosworth calipers(2pot) and fit those.

spitfire4v8

4,025 posts

210 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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like ant says ^^^ this is a well documented scenario that many have come across in the past.

Simon Says

19,447 posts

250 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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spitfire4v8 said:
like ant says ^^^ this is a well documented scenario that many have come across in the past.
Been there done that got the T shirt,all because i did not do my homework(most unusual)i also upgraded from the 240mm spec brakes,but settled on the 283mm Cossie discs with the Granny Cossie calipers,lost interest in the overweight 4 pots rolleyes

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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I looked at this a while ago, and came to the conclusion it was a lot of messing around to get heavy iron brakes... They can be made to fit the sierra uprights, but it would have required making the flanges much thinner than I was comfortable with.

I picked Focus RS brakes as a solution. The calipers needed a little work with a dremmel to make them fit, but nothing that would compromise the strength. Discs are 326mm.


Edited by dnb on Monday 31st August 23:15

Simon Says

19,447 posts

250 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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dnb said:
I looked at this a while ago, and came to the conclusion it was a lot of messing around to get heavy iron brakes... They can be made to fit the sierra uprights, but it would have required making the flanges much thinner than I was comfortable with.

I picked Focus RS brakes as a solution. The calipers needed a little work with a dremmel to make them fit, but nothing that would compromise the strength.
Concerning the thinning of the lugs i came to the same conclusion scratchchin nice brake upgrade you have now though wink

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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There are loads of 'off the shelf' 4 pot calipers out there now, gone are the days of raiding Austin Princesses (showing my age now).

There seem to be lots of Impreza and Evo brembo calipers on ebay, and the 300zx also has some nice big stoppers too.

Would be interesting to compile a list of sizes and what works and what doesn't.

Certainly cheaper rebuilding a s/h unit to buying a new AP Racing caliper. biggrin

Something like this looks very tempting for a project.

Tim

Edited by TT Tim on Tuesday 1st September 13:32

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Does anyone have the AP TVR calliper/283(285) mm disc combo? Any pics etc.?

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Has anyone come up with a rear calliper upgrade, other than Hispec?

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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I am working slowly on getting Brembos on the back of mine. I have other things on at the moment so it's not high priority!

I might have to find a way to fit Cerb uprights so I can have a proper hand brake... Always a problem somewhere wink

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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900T-R said:
Does anyone have the AP TVR calliper/283(285) mm disc combo? Any pics etc.?
I have Ap TVR Callipers on mine with 300 discs about half way down this page LINKY

BB

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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TT Tim said:
Something like this looks very tempting for a project.
These look to be the same size as my fronts. The chances are good that my adaptor parts will work nicely.

magpies

Original Poster:

5,204 posts

211 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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I've now purchased AP Racing TVR 4 pot calipers (from an 03 T car) to go with the 283mm discs and will place the cossy calipers back on fleabay
I am having mounting brackets made to fit the APs to the Sierra hubs

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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Could you weigh a calliper for me before it goes on? smile

magpies

Original Poster:

5,204 posts

211 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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when I get them back I'll weigh them

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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Thanks! thumbup

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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Go on the Tarox website which is very handy because it allows you to list Ford and other OEM discs. In all cases it gives you Diameter thickness and overall thickness to help you find the correct disc for your car.

Neil.

venusdimilo

156 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th September 2009
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magpies said:
I've now purchased AP Racing TVR 4 pot calipers (from an 03 T car) to go with the 283mm discs and will place the cossy calipers back on fleabay
I am having mounting brackets made to fit the APs to the Sierra hubs
I have fitted AP 5200 calipers from a Cerbera with new grooved discs (300mm). I have 16" wheels on the front and these just fit with 9mm spacers and extended studs. The brackets I made from 8mm angle because AP calipers are fitted through the top of the caliper, sort of verticaly, whereas the standard caliper bolts in to the back of the hub, sort of horizontaly. They brakes feel much more flexible and certanly more stopping power.

venusdimilo

156 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th September 2009
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Forgot to say that I paid £180 inc vat for the calipers and a set of very good pads. Plus I have painted them..bit of a tart.

deetes

413 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th September 2009
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venusdimilo said:
Forgot to say that I paid £180 inc vat for the calipers and a set of very good pads. Plus I have painted them..bit of a tart.
If there's another set of calipers, at that price, I'll have them