Mechanic job change to IT
Discussion
Hi all new to the forum just after some advice
Been mechanic for 18 yrs and self employed for 5 years.
just sold my garage business to my employee.
Had enougth of fixing cars lot of hard work for little money even when self employed.Do enjoy the diagnostic side thou.
Fancy a job change in computers ive built loads of pc from scratch for friends and family but i think theres is little money in this and more in networking side of it.
How do you go about getin training and qualified there seems to be loads of diffrent courses.
Is there plenty of IT work out there or does it boil down to experence.
Not bothered on starting on a low salary just whats the first steps
Cheers all
Been mechanic for 18 yrs and self employed for 5 years.
just sold my garage business to my employee.
Had enougth of fixing cars lot of hard work for little money even when self employed.Do enjoy the diagnostic side thou.
Fancy a job change in computers ive built loads of pc from scratch for friends and family but i think theres is little money in this and more in networking side of it.
How do you go about getin training and qualified there seems to be loads of diffrent courses.
Is there plenty of IT work out there or does it boil down to experence.
Not bothered on starting on a low salary just whats the first steps
Cheers all
IT Industry is very very tough at the moment and jobs are not so easily available now since the influx of "highly skilled migrant visas" which have meant salaries have dropped as there is an ambundance of "IT" people. A great deal of them are crap and so the good IT people are missed by recruiters.
I would think very hard about entering IT and don't believe those adverts on TV thinking you can become and IT Professional by doing a 6 week course. Its a crock of crap.
Sorry to be hard, but that is how it is.
I would think very hard about entering IT and don't believe those adverts on TV thinking you can become and IT Professional by doing a 6 week course. Its a crock of crap.
Sorry to be hard, but that is how it is.
IT splits into 2 catagories in my opinion.
Specialists, niche market experts in the field types. Hard to get into and you need experience but pays well. The problem being IT moves on and you can get too specialised and the number of jobs decreases.
Support/install - various rungs but a very basic job dealing with numpties most of the time (have you tried switching it off and on again).
Networking can fall into either camp, though obviously a newbie is going to end up in support/install. Training is experience and for networking a Cisco qualification CCNA to start. For general windows work I think it's an mcse as default.
You will be competing with kids, graduates and those with experience, so really just echoing what the other guys have said, it's tough.
Specialists, niche market experts in the field types. Hard to get into and you need experience but pays well. The problem being IT moves on and you can get too specialised and the number of jobs decreases.
Support/install - various rungs but a very basic job dealing with numpties most of the time (have you tried switching it off and on again).
Networking can fall into either camp, though obviously a newbie is going to end up in support/install. Training is experience and for networking a Cisco qualification CCNA to start. For general windows work I think it's an mcse as default.
You will be competing with kids, graduates and those with experience, so really just echoing what the other guys have said, it's tough.
John1975 said:
When you look on jobserve there seems to be loads of IT jobs. Must be lots of people applying for them.
Nevermind time for a re think cheers all
I think these jobs you see on the net generally fall in to three categories:Nevermind time for a re think cheers all
one - either they no longer exist and haven't existed for quite some time, just recruiters CV collecting (certainly was my experience when I was last looking and a couple of recruiters I knew well admitted this was standard practice), I would bet this accounts for a large percentage of the "jobs" advertised.
Two - they are expecting good quality candidates for mediocre salary (I experienced this also)
Three - the jobs are extremely specialised and unless you have the skills and the length of service (this usually goes hand in hand for this type of role) then you haven't got a chance!
I recruited a few people over the last 16 months and I have managed to get very good and very experienced candidates. Some may not agree with me on this, but if a candidate has less than 5 years solid experience in an environment that matches my vacancy and company I work for, then I am not interested in interviewing them. I am tired of seeing candidates straight out of uni or whom have recently done a course who expect £50k pa because they can do a bit of scripting and bounce a box, but don't know the first thing about the wider IT industry and the Business side of things.
I wish you luck in your decisions and your future, just remember there are many very good experienced people out there who cannot get a job at the moment. It is ironic really, because there are many s
t people currently with an IT job earning good money!dustybottoms said:
I recruited a few people over the last 16 months and I have managed to get very good and very experienced candidates. Some may not agree with me on this, but if a candidate has less than 5 years solid experience in an environment that matches my vacancy and company I work for, then I am not interested in interviewing them. I am tired of seeing candidates straight out of uni or whom have recently done a course who expect £50k pa because they can do a bit of scripting and bounce a box, but don't know the first thing about the wider IT industry and the Business side of things.
I wish you luck in your decisions and your future, just remember there are many very good experienced people out there who cannot get a job at the moment. It is ironic really, because there are many st people currently with an IT job earning good money!
Sadly, as a manager of a number of Oracle DBA's ( which I accept is a very specialised area )- I have to agree that you could be a fully certified OCP - But if you have completed the courses straight out of uni or college then I would not interview you..I wish you luck in your decisions and your future, just remember there are many very good experienced people out there who cannot get a job at the moment. It is ironic really, because there are many s
t people currently with an IT job earning good money!However, if you have been working with Oracle for the past few years and can demonstrate a working knowledge - Then you'll get the interview.. OCP or not...
FWIW... I.T. is not a career I would recommend trying to 'get into' right now.. Too many out of work ex-contractors and too few vacancies at the moment...
dustybottoms said:
It is ironic really, because there are many st people currently with an IT job earning good money!
seems you know my boss t people currently with an IT job earning good money!
she hasn't even got admin access to the system, as last time she changed something in active directory and i spent a day fixing it, took her 30 seconds to wreck it.
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