Painting bare wood

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NiceCupOfTea

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Need to paint new door frame/skirting boards.

The door frame is bare wood, so I am assuming:

primer x1
undercoat x2
gloss x2
with 24 hours inbetween each coat - or is that overkill?

The skirting board looks like it comes pre-primered or something, as it is a matt white colour. Does this just need undercoat x2 & gloss x2?

Will 1 coat of undercoat do in each case?

pony2

360 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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One undercoat and you will be fine.

I always use an oil based primer, takes longer to dry though. Oh and sand those layers.

robinhood21

30,910 posts

245 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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It does sound like the timber is pre-primed. So, try one U/C and, if it covers OK then finish with one coat of gloss.

B17NNS

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260 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Is the skirting board timber or mdf?

NiceCupOfTea

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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B17NNS said:
Is the skirting board timber or mdf?
Timber I think.

Sand after every coat?

mgtony

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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NiceCupOfTea said:
B17NNS said:
Is the skirting board timber or mdf?
Timber I think.

Sand after every coat?
Lightly sand between coats and wipe off all the dust. A lot of paints now dry in 6 to 8 hours, so by doing 1 coat in the morning and a 2nd in the evening means you can get both coats on in a day.

NiceCupOfTea

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Hmmm, how about a couple of coats of this:

http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servle...

and a couple of coats of white gloss?

It says it's a primer & undercoat. Worth a try or is it rubbish?

Edited by NiceCupOfTea on Wednesday 28th October 22:25

V12Les

3,985 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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That will be fine, generally you'll get better results buying a quality tin for primer and one for undercoat. As with most things, youll get what you pay for. Quality brushes too.

OldSkoolRS

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192 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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What no one has mentioned so far is to treat the bare wood using 'knotting' on any knots otherwise you'll get nasty brown stains comeing through the white paint after a month of two (if not sooner).

Harry Flashman

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255 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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OldSkoolRS said:
What no one has mentioned so far is to treat the bare wood using 'knotting' on any knots otherwise you'll get nasty brown stains comeing through the white paint after a month of two (if not sooner).
Couldn't find this stuff anywhere - and need some!

pmanson

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266 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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Harry Flashman said:
OldSkoolRS said:
What no one has mentioned so far is to treat the bare wood using 'knotting' on any knots otherwise you'll get nasty brown stains comeing through the white paint after a month of two (if not sooner).
Couldn't find this stuff anywhere - and need some!
Homebase stock it. I've got a tub of it in the garage somewhere (comes with it's only little brush).

http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servle...

susanq

638 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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Combined primer and undercoat. Very good and saves time. Lightly sand in between coats. Two coats of gloss or eggshell. For a really smooth finish, use a 'wet&dry' sanding block before final coat.

plug

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251 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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Knotting
Primer
2 Undercoats
1 Gloss

Light sand between coats

The gloss is a finish coat, if you do 2 gloss coats the 2nd will not stick to the 1st properly because it has a smooth finish. This is how all the painters at work do it.

NiceCupOfTea

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Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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plug said:
Knotting
Primer
2 Undercoats
1 Gloss

Light sand between coats

The gloss is a finish coat, if you do 2 gloss coats the 2nd will not stick to the 1st properly because it has a smooth finish. This is how all the painters at work do it.
Cheers - this is exactly what I did in the end and it's spot on. You're absolutely right about 1 coat of gloss.

I did notice that the gloss went on a bit translucently on the wood that had been bare (even after a coat of primer and 2 of undercoat), so perhaps I should have done a second primer coat. However, it has dried fine.

Only slight annoyance is the masking tape I put under the skirting to protect the laminate floor - can't get it out even though it's 3 days since the final coat of gloss as it's still sticky frown

PS - that's the knotting I used too, from Homebase. It was with the woodstain etc. I think.

pmanson

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266 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
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NCOT - Try using a scalpel blade.... run it gently along the edge you want to cut and then remove the tape.

I got some from Homebase to install/remove masking tape from a glass pane'd door I was painting

NiceCupOfTea

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Wednesday 4th November 2009
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I was using a stanley knife but because I couldn't get it flat on the floor because of the chunky handle I couldn't chop through the gooey paint. I'm going to leave it a couple of weeks and use a thin handled scalpel to do as you say smile

Simpo Two

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278 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
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NiceCupOfTea said:
I was using a stanley knife but because I couldn't get it flat on the floor because of the chunky handle I couldn't chop through the gooey paint.
The 'snap-off' style of knife (long thin blade that comes out about 3") is extremely handy as it curves smile