Leica d lux 4 vs v lux 20
Discussion
I'm getting one of the 2 and i was aiming for the v lux 20 but i just want a little more input.
What does surprise me is that the d lux 4 is more expensive than the v lux 20. can anyone shed any light on this please?
From what i can gather the 20 gives you 12x optical zoom and 60 fps in hd mode for video. And for these benefits you pay less than the d lux 4, what am i missing here? Does the d lux have a better lens or sensor?
I will be getting a leica model as opposed to the panasonic though.
Also, anyone know of a good sale on the d lux 4 once the v lux 20 comes out at the end of this month?
Thanks
What does surprise me is that the d lux 4 is more expensive than the v lux 20. can anyone shed any light on this please?
From what i can gather the 20 gives you 12x optical zoom and 60 fps in hd mode for video. And for these benefits you pay less than the d lux 4, what am i missing here? Does the d lux have a better lens or sensor?
I will be getting a leica model as opposed to the panasonic though.
Also, anyone know of a good sale on the d lux 4 once the v lux 20 comes out at the end of this month?
Thanks
I have the D-Lux 4 and I'm afraid I can't shed any light on the v lux 20. There will however, be a reason why the 20 is cheaper!
I would say 2 things... D-Lux 4 takes VERY good photos, but it *could* do with a bit more zoom, so if getting close is important, the v 20 might be the one for you.
For landscapes the 4 is surprisingly good - it goes with me everywhere, when DSLRs are too big.
This taken a few weeks back with the 4:
I would say 2 things... D-Lux 4 takes VERY good photos, but it *could* do with a bit more zoom, so if getting close is important, the v 20 might be the one for you.
For landscapes the 4 is surprisingly good - it goes with me everywhere, when DSLRs are too big.
This taken a few weeks back with the 4:
Edited by GetCarter on Sunday 16th May 12:45
bilko2 said:
I'm getting one of the 2 and i was aiming for the v lux 20 but i just want a little more input.
What does surprise me is that the d lux 4 is more expensive than the v lux 20. can anyone shed any light on this please?
From what i can gather the 20 gives you 12x optical zoom and 60 fps in hd mode for video. And for these benefits you pay less than the d lux 4, what am i missing here? Does the d lux have a better lens or sensor?
I will be getting a leica model as opposed to the panasonic though.
Also, anyone know of a good sale on the d lux 4 once the v lux 20 comes out at the end of this month?
Thanks
The D lux 4 has a larger sensor, nicer lens (i think), and has more manual control, a hot shoe for external flash etc.What does surprise me is that the d lux 4 is more expensive than the v lux 20. can anyone shed any light on this please?
From what i can gather the 20 gives you 12x optical zoom and 60 fps in hd mode for video. And for these benefits you pay less than the d lux 4, what am i missing here? Does the d lux have a better lens or sensor?
I will be getting a leica model as opposed to the panasonic though.
Also, anyone know of a good sale on the d lux 4 once the v lux 20 comes out at the end of this month?
Thanks
But seriously, why buy the leica over the panasonic. They are the same camera. same lenses, same sensors, same bodies, same control, same everything!
V lux 20 said:
First deliveries due the end of May, orders being taken Now. 12.1 megapixel resolution with Leica 12x optical zoom lens and built in GPS tagging. Top quality Leica DC Vario Elmar 4.1-49.2mm zoom lens, equivalent top 25-300mm in 35mm format with image stabiliser built in. 3 inch TFT LCD display screen. Program exposure, Aperture priority automatic and manaul speed settings. Multi-field, Centre-weighted and Spot metering HD movie recording. Matt black finish with user friendly controls. Supplied with battery, charger, wrist strap, AV cable USB download cable, software and instructions
no idea but quote is from https://secure.ffordes.com/index.htm website who are taking orders looks like the 2 are same price to me.jimmy156 said:
But seriously, why buy the leica over the panasonic. They are the same camera. same lenses, same sensors, same bodies, same control, same everything!
Not true. Leica cream off all the best bits (they vary a lot), a different more waterproof body, have different firmware and a very different warranty.Edited by GetCarter on Sunday 16th May 14:27
GetCarter said:
jimmy156 said:
But seriously, why buy the leica over the panasonic. They are the same camera. same lenses, same sensors, same bodies, same control, same everything!
Not true. Leica cream off all the best bits (they vary a lot), a different more waterproof body, have different firmware and a very different warranty.Edited by GetCarter on Sunday 16th May 14:27
GetCarter said:
Indeed, If I was considering cost, the Panasonic looks a really good deal.
I would think 90% of people would do better buying the Panansonic.
Okay, i'll put this to you. Do you think you could take better pictures with the leica then the pana? I'm not be facetious, i dont know enough about the differences between the two to know the answer to that question.I would think 90% of people would do better buying the Panansonic.
jimmy156 said:
GetCarter said:
Indeed, If I was considering cost, the Panasonic looks a really good deal.
I would think 90% of people would do better buying the Panansonic.
Okay, i'll put this to you. Do you think you could take better pictures with the leica then the pana? I'm not be facetious, i dont know enough about the differences between the two to know the answer to that question.I would think 90% of people would do better buying the Panansonic.
A camera that works is what I need! But I'm sure I could get as good a photo from the Panasonic.... before it died from water ingress. As I said, 90% of people would be happy with a Panasonic.
Also, cameras are tax deductable for me, so cost mainly relates to cash flow and depreciation, not cost price - the Leica (sorry, it's a badge thing) will keep some value, the Panasonic will be almost worthless within a year or so.
Edited by GetCarter on Sunday 16th May 16:18
, couldnt get my camera back in its bag quick enough )Thank you so much for your replies. Getcarter, i am constantly in awe of your talent as a photographer.
I think i am right in saying that the Leica does it's own colour balance and image processing within the camera as well as other minor things. However, when you add up all the little things you are getting a noticeably different result from the panasonic.
I always try and buy the best i can afford within my price bracket and that little red badge is such a draw for me. Heck, why do people pay anywhere from £10 george to £700 for jeans that are essentially made from similar denim? Or choose a Jaguar over a Mondeo?
Also i believe i heard that the after sales service with leica is second to none. Along side with making my final purchase from John Lewis ( after price matching ) it is extra peace of mind for me.
I will probably go for the 4 but will wait for one or two serious reviews from the 20 to come out.
Looking on Vimeo there are some very good short films made with the d lux4.
I mean is a compact digital camera really designed to have a 300mm lens? Isn't that like trying to use a traction kite to paragliding? Bad metaphor maybe but you get my drift.
I think i am right in saying that the Leica does it's own colour balance and image processing within the camera as well as other minor things. However, when you add up all the little things you are getting a noticeably different result from the panasonic.
I always try and buy the best i can afford within my price bracket and that little red badge is such a draw for me. Heck, why do people pay anywhere from £10 george to £700 for jeans that are essentially made from similar denim? Or choose a Jaguar over a Mondeo?
Also i believe i heard that the after sales service with leica is second to none. Along side with making my final purchase from John Lewis ( after price matching ) it is extra peace of mind for me.
I will probably go for the 4 but will wait for one or two serious reviews from the 20 to come out.
Looking on Vimeo there are some very good short films made with the d lux4.
I mean is a compact digital camera really designed to have a 300mm lens? Isn't that like trying to use a traction kite to paragliding? Bad metaphor maybe but you get my drift.
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