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Please don't assume that you will know the ring from a game
It will be oh so different out there.
ETA: if you are going to buy a PSP for it then you would be better off buying a steering wheel for a PC and learning on that.
Please don't assume that you will know the ring from a game
It will be oh so different out there.ETA: if you are going to buy a PSP for it then you would be better off buying a steering wheel for a PC and learning on that.
Edited by JakeS on Tuesday 1st June 09:32
Would echo the comments about giving you confidence you shouldn't have. Having played it until I knew it on PGR2 way back then, I turned up and was shocked about the elevation changes. I learnt a hell of a lot more from going out for a couple of laps with Ron Simon's school than I did in hundreds of virtual laps.
Best bet is to jump in with someone who knows the track and they can give you pointers.
Best bet is to jump in with someone who knows the track and they can give you pointers.
Bibbs said:
it's not the same, but it atleast lets you know if it's left or right over the blind 100mph hill ..
And there's the problem, for someone totally new to it, they might be tempted to attack it like a track, thinking to themselves it's a nice sweeping right over this crest, only to get to the top and they've not recognised it and it's actually a 90 degree left hander. Steve Evil said:
And there's the problem, for someone totally new to it, they might be tempted to attack it like a track, thinking to themselves it's a nice sweeping right over this crest, only to get to the top and they've not recognised it and it's actually a 90 degree left hander.
My first visit I gave a pax lap to a TVR owner, it was about my 3rd ever lap.It was wet, I didn't have a clue where it went, and he must have been totally unimpressed.
I had no idea from the first dip, through to the last corner.
After 100's (if not 1000's) of laps a year on GT4, I had the track sussed by my 4th visit.
Study the map and look at a few videos of on-board footage.
Then take it easy for the first few laps, it can be very easy to forget where you are as left followed by right start to get blurred and they aren't all take at the same speed.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nordsc...
Then take it easy for the first few laps, it can be very easy to forget where you are as left followed by right start to get blurred and they aren't all take at the same speed.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nordsc...
Bibbs said:
Steve Evil said:
And there's the problem, for someone totally new to it, they might be tempted to attack it like a track, thinking to themselves it's a nice sweeping right over this crest, only to get to the top and they've not recognised it and it's actually a 90 degree left hander.
My first visit I gave a pax lap to a TVR owner, it was about my 3rd ever lap.It was wet, I didn't have a clue where it went, and he must have been totally unimpressed.
I had no idea from the first dip, through to the last corner.
After 100's (if not 1000's) of laps a year on GT4, I had the track sussed by my 4th visit.
I must have done 100 odd laps on the rfactor mod (there are a few, one is noticably better than the others) before going there in RL.
I will echo others points; any game/sim is not the same, and the ring is the single most dangerous place you will vere drive - do NOT arrive there thinking you know anything!
BUT - my 'practise' laps on the pc did teach me a lot; for the most part I knew where the corners were going, when not to turn in too early, when a slow corner followed a fast one (duh; every time!), and generally what to expect around it.
I definitely felt the benefit, very worth doing (and my passenger at the time complimented my driving and said it was obvious I knew where the road went).
But still; when you get there, take a passenger lap first, take it very easy the first few laps, and never assume you know what's around the next corner!
I have never seen so many trashed cars.... And I've never before or since seen someone consoling his distressed wife while pieces of their 911 lie strewn about the place.
It will kill you if you don't treat it with respect - but some preparation is better than none!
2 more points;
- watch *full lap* videos on youtube (the full lap bit is important!)
- tracks are *always* tighter and steeper in RL than in game/sim. Driver slower!
...That's my 2c anyway...
I will echo others points; any game/sim is not the same, and the ring is the single most dangerous place you will vere drive - do NOT arrive there thinking you know anything!
BUT - my 'practise' laps on the pc did teach me a lot; for the most part I knew where the corners were going, when not to turn in too early, when a slow corner followed a fast one (duh; every time!), and generally what to expect around it.
I definitely felt the benefit, very worth doing (and my passenger at the time complimented my driving and said it was obvious I knew where the road went).
But still; when you get there, take a passenger lap first, take it very easy the first few laps, and never assume you know what's around the next corner!
I have never seen so many trashed cars.... And I've never before or since seen someone consoling his distressed wife while pieces of their 911 lie strewn about the place.
It will kill you if you don't treat it with respect - but some preparation is better than none!
2 more points;
- watch *full lap* videos on youtube (the full lap bit is important!)
- tracks are *always* tighter and steeper in RL than in game/sim. Driver slower!
...That's my 2c anyway...
shivars said:
I must have done 100 odd laps on the rfactor mod (there are a few, one is noticably better than the others) before going there in RL.
I will echo others points; any game/sim is not the same, and the ring is the single most dangerous place you will vere drive - do NOT arrive there thinking you know anything!
BUT - my 'practise' laps on the pc did teach me a lot; for the most part I knew where the corners were going, when not to turn in too early, when a slow corner followed a fast one (duh; every time!), and generally what to expect around it.
I definitely felt the benefit, very worth doing (and my passenger at the time complimented my driving and said it was obvious I knew where the road went).
But still; when you get there, take a passenger lap first, take it very easy the first few laps, and never assume you know what's around the next corner!
I have never seen so many trashed cars.... And I've never before or since seen someone consoling his distressed wife while pieces of their 911 lie strewn about the place.
It will kill you if you don't treat it with respect - but some preparation is better than none!
2 more points;
- watch *full lap* videos on youtube (the full lap bit is important!)
- tracks are *always* tighter and steeper in RL than in game/sim. Driver slower!
...That's my 2c anyway...
Totally agree with your post.I will echo others points; any game/sim is not the same, and the ring is the single most dangerous place you will vere drive - do NOT arrive there thinking you know anything!
BUT - my 'practise' laps on the pc did teach me a lot; for the most part I knew where the corners were going, when not to turn in too early, when a slow corner followed a fast one (duh; every time!), and generally what to expect around it.
I definitely felt the benefit, very worth doing (and my passenger at the time complimented my driving and said it was obvious I knew where the road went).
But still; when you get there, take a passenger lap first, take it very easy the first few laps, and never assume you know what's around the next corner!
I have never seen so many trashed cars.... And I've never before or since seen someone consoling his distressed wife while pieces of their 911 lie strewn about the place.
It will kill you if you don't treat it with respect - but some preparation is better than none!
2 more points;
- watch *full lap* videos on youtube (the full lap bit is important!)
- tracks are *always* tighter and steeper in RL than in game/sim. Driver slower!
...That's my 2c anyway...
We went when it was closed due to snow once and walked some of the track. Even when you drive it you do not get any idea of the gradients/cambers in some areas. We had trouble walking on some parts of the circuit it was that steep and icy.
Very sensible advice. I have done about 120 actual laps and countless GT4 laps. the game does give you some visual memory which is very useful. It does not teach you the right line in any way, and it allows you to travel faster than you can in reality, by and large. There is no safety training in the game, ( i.e. what to do if there is an accident).
My 2c. worth is to get an instructor for your first few laps. It makes a world of difference, as he can tell you where you are off line, and generally give you good feedback.
If its wet, its an entirely different deal and if yo have never been there I would be very reluctant to go out. Also, remember that it is sometimes wet on parts of the track and dry on others. Grab a pax lap or two if you can also.
My 2c. worth is to get an instructor for your first few laps. It makes a world of difference, as he can tell you where you are off line, and generally give you good feedback.
If its wet, its an entirely different deal and if yo have never been there I would be very reluctant to go out. Also, remember that it is sometimes wet on parts of the track and dry on others. Grab a pax lap or two if you can also.
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