I'm at risk of an ANPR stop
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Ok guys, I'm at risk of an anpr stop, as I've changed my car.
ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
TVR Moneypit said:
Defcon5 said:
Keep the certs in the car, ring the insurance company and ask them to update the database?
Personally I'd prefer to keep photocopys in the car as opposed to the originals.Passport, licence, and insurance are always in my wallet, V5C (which I don't have yet) is normally at home, MOT is normally with the cars service record.
Depends on where you are in the country - here in the South West, the Plod rarely seem to have their ANPR cameras turned on. I have been past a fair few in a car that I only recently discovered was not on the MID for some reason.
If you were in an inner city somewhere, then odds are you wont last too long before a pull. As long as you have the correct documentation, you have nothing to fear.
If you were in an inner city somewhere, then odds are you wont last too long before a pull. As long as you have the correct documentation, you have nothing to fear.
I got stopped in my Leon a few days after getting it... it was showing 'No Insurance' on ANPR. I had the certificate ready to hand him by the time he stopped me (i'd driven past an ANPR van and knew it was coming).
One quick phone call and it was sorted.
It happens, they accept ANPR can't be 100% accurate, they often use downloaded versions anyway so will accept this situation will arise
One quick phone call and it was sorted.
It happens, they accept ANPR can't be 100% accurate, they often use downloaded versions anyway so will accept this situation will arise
Nigel Worc's said:
Ok guys, I'm at risk of an anpr stop, as I've changed my car.
ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
Don't worry about it, I've been stopped for showing as "no insurance" - ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
Me: "Definitely have insurance officer"
Plod: "How long have you had the car"
Me: "4 Days"
Plod: "Hold on a minute"
makes phone call.
Plod: "Thanks for your patience sir, on your way.
BMWBen said:
Nigel Worc's said:
Ok guys, I'm at risk of an anpr stop, as I've changed my car.
ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
Don't worry about it, I've been stopped for showing as "no insurance" - ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
Me: "Definitely have insurance officer"
Plod: "How long have you had the car"
Me: "4 Days"
Plod: "Hold on a minute"
makes phone call.
Plod: "Thanks for your patience sir, on your way.
The police must see this kind of thing very regularly and will quickly be able to figure out whether it's a genuine 'records not updated' issue as it is for you vs. a classic stop-barry-boy-in-barry-motor who tells them "yeah, bought it this morning off a mate... can't remember his name though...".
All above is good advice. Also, when you're first stopped and the necessary phone call to the insurance is made by the police and you're found OK, before going on your way, nicely ask the officer for the police log number of your stop, write it down with the date, and if you're stopped again in the near future, you can inform them that "yes you do have insurance, it's not been uploaded to MID yet, and you've previously been checked on police log number xxx on dd/mm/yy.
to check that log then takes only a few seconds
to check that log then takes only a few seconds
Nigel Worc's said:
Ok guys, I'm at risk of an anpr stop, as I've changed my car.
ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
I anticipate that you will be stopped, arrested and thrown in jail for 20 years... ASKMID shows my car as uninsured, and of course, it isn't registered to me yet, and has just been taxed and mot'd by the dealer.
I have the green slip given to me by the dealer, I have my driving licence & passport with me, I have my original insurance certificate showing the old car, the updated certificate showing the new car (this cover runs out on 6th July), and the new policy certificate which comes into force on the 6th of July, for a further year (showing the new car ... obviously).
I have driven the car back to Worcester from just south of Bristol without issue, but from tomorrow it starts earning its keep being driven around the country, so my chances of being stopped are high (I guess).
Anything I can do to lessen the grief ?
Well I am surprised, this anpr isn't perhaps quite as widespread as we think. (or it doesn't work very well).
I've been M5, & M6, & M54 to Telford, M54 & M6 & A14 to Desborough, A14, & M6, & M42, & M5, back to Worcester, I passed one marked west mids police motorway car, and was passed by another.
No stop at all (not that I'm complaining mind).
I've been M5, & M6, & M54 to Telford, M54 & M6 & A14 to Desborough, A14, & M6, & M42, & M5, back to Worcester, I passed one marked west mids police motorway car, and was passed by another.
No stop at all (not that I'm complaining mind).
If your vehicle still shows as being 'in trade' with a recent date and also flags up as 'No Insurance' then it may be looked at and ignored.
Similarly, they may be looking for something more important than the flag your car would bring up.
Alternatively, the motorway car you saw may have been on its way to a service, being driven by a civilian mechanic?
Also, have you run your car through www.askmid.com? Your insurance might well be on there already - from past experiences of buying vehicles, I've had them take between 1 and 14 days to appear on the system, so it may already be on there.
If you've got insurance and you're stopped as a result of pinging up on ANPR, if you've got the right attitude and explain the situation the worst case scenario is a producer. It's nothing to worry about, they're not going to bring back capital punishment just for you.
Cars get bought and sold, the system isn't instantaneous, thus it's going to flag up a lot of cars with new insurance. No dramas and all the BiB that use ANPR know this.
Similarly, they may be looking for something more important than the flag your car would bring up.
Alternatively, the motorway car you saw may have been on its way to a service, being driven by a civilian mechanic?
Also, have you run your car through www.askmid.com? Your insurance might well be on there already - from past experiences of buying vehicles, I've had them take between 1 and 14 days to appear on the system, so it may already be on there.
If you've got insurance and you're stopped as a result of pinging up on ANPR, if you've got the right attitude and explain the situation the worst case scenario is a producer. It's nothing to worry about, they're not going to bring back capital punishment just for you.
Cars get bought and sold, the system isn't instantaneous, thus it's going to flag up a lot of cars with new insurance. No dramas and all the BiB that use ANPR know this.
Nigel Worc's said:
Well I am surprised, this anpr isn't perhaps quite as widespread as we think. (or it doesn't work very well).
I've been M5, & M6, & M54 to Telford, M54 & M6 & A14 to Desborough, A14, & M6, & M42, & M5, back to Worcester, I passed one marked west mids police motorway car, and was passed by another.
No stop at all (not that I'm complaining mind).
It's impossible to stop all the 'no insurance' vehicles using the m/way. There are literally thousands (and I'm not exaggerating) that activate ANPR every day. There are only a few Police cars! I've been M5, & M6, & M54 to Telford, M54 & M6 & A14 to Desborough, A14, & M6, & M42, & M5, back to Worcester, I passed one marked west mids police motorway car, and was passed by another.
No stop at all (not that I'm complaining mind).
Nigel Worc's said:
Well I am surprised, this anpr isn't perhaps quite as widespread as we think. (or it doesn't work very well).
One Metropolitan Borough I work with gets over 8,000 ANPR 'pings' an hour. They only bother with the 'pings' tagged for serious wanted persons.Saw an operation go down in their control room once, I found it very interesting watching them follow and then detain a couple of suspects using an armed response vehicle. They didn't take any chances!!
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