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Hi, I have been offered a job for a new company formally in writing. I advised the salary I was on. This new offer of a job, is for a salary which is only a few hundreds pounds more than what I am currently on.
I want to reject this offer and hope they will offer more. If they don't I will stay were I am, i have given my notice but i am sure I could stay as I have not burnt any bridges..
I know through an inside source that the job does pay more.
Any good ideas of wording my email back.
I want to reject this offer and hope they will offer more. If they don't I will stay were I am, i have given my notice but i am sure I could stay as I have not burnt any bridges..
I know through an inside source that the job does pay more.
Any good ideas of wording my email back.
Blown2CV said:
it all depends whether you are worth it, if you are then you can get more. If not then you are merely relying on their stupidity or kindness. TBH if you told them how much you are on at the minute then you fell at the first.
I forgot to mention that the salary I advised is not what I am currently on, just what I thought was a good starting point.All I was looking for was some sort of letter template etc...
Yes, you should be careful. Remember, the next few years are going to be a sod for us all. When companies struggle, it's last in, first out. Unless there are long term benefits other than wages attached to this career move, I'd stay put.
But if you really want to change jobs then try to show your new employer your appointment would be adding value to the company. And rather than rejecting their offer by email, be pragmatic about this.
Get hold of the head honcho and talk to them face to face or by phone. Explain the reasons why you think the salary is undervaluing the position, but add that you would be willing to accept the post on the salary offered because of the uncertain economic times ahead, that may affect the company's future.
But ask that you wish a pay review to be written into your contract for 6 months time. Now that's win win for everyone. You've demonstrated that you're not greedy, and the company is getting you cheap for half a year. You get the job plus extra kudos to start, and half a year to show you're worth the extra money.
But if trading conditions toughen, then you could agree to defer the pay rise for a further 6 months. The bottom line is you get to keep your job since you didn't price yourself out of an uncertain market in the first place.
But if you really want to change jobs then try to show your new employer your appointment would be adding value to the company. And rather than rejecting their offer by email, be pragmatic about this.
Get hold of the head honcho and talk to them face to face or by phone. Explain the reasons why you think the salary is undervaluing the position, but add that you would be willing to accept the post on the salary offered because of the uncertain economic times ahead, that may affect the company's future.
But ask that you wish a pay review to be written into your contract for 6 months time. Now that's win win for everyone. You've demonstrated that you're not greedy, and the company is getting you cheap for half a year. You get the job plus extra kudos to start, and half a year to show you're worth the extra money.
But if trading conditions toughen, then you could agree to defer the pay rise for a further 6 months. The bottom line is you get to keep your job since you didn't price yourself out of an uncertain market in the first place.
Edited by pacman1 on Saturday 19th June 14:28
pacman1 said:
Yes, you should be careful. Remember, the next few years are going to be a sod for us all. When companies struggle, it's last in, first out. Unless there are long term benefits other than wages attached to this career move, I'd stay put.
But if you really want to change jobs then try to show your new employer your appointment would be adding value to the company. And rather than rejecting their offer by email, be pragmatic about this.
Get hold of the head honcho and talk to them face to face or by phone. Explain the reasons why you think the salary is undervaluing the position, but add that you would be willing to accept the post on the salary offered because of the uncertain economic times ahead, that may affect the company's future.
But ask that you wish a pay review to be written into your contract for 6 months time. Now that's win win for everyone. You've demonstrated that you're not greedy, and the company is getting you cheap for half a year. You get the job plus extra kudos to start, and half a year to show you're worth the extra money.
But if trading conditions toughen, then you could agree to defer the pay rise for a further 6 months. The bottom line is you get to keep your job since you didn't price yourself out of an uncertain market in the first place.
thanks the job i going for has a budget already allocated to it. I will be working for a company employed by another company, thus a budget for my job has already been given..But if you really want to change jobs then try to show your new employer your appointment would be adding value to the company. And rather than rejecting their offer by email, be pragmatic about this.
Get hold of the head honcho and talk to them face to face or by phone. Explain the reasons why you think the salary is undervaluing the position, but add that you would be willing to accept the post on the salary offered because of the uncertain economic times ahead, that may affect the company's future.
But ask that you wish a pay review to be written into your contract for 6 months time. Now that's win win for everyone. You've demonstrated that you're not greedy, and the company is getting you cheap for half a year. You get the job plus extra kudos to start, and half a year to show you're worth the extra money.
But if trading conditions toughen, then you could agree to defer the pay rise for a further 6 months. The bottom line is you get to keep your job since you didn't price yourself out of an uncertain market in the first place.
Edited by pacman1 on Saturday 19th June 14:28
Some companies include the salary you were on in any reference responses, be warned. I do believe you said the offer was only a few hundred quid more than you are on now, but if you inflated it then maybe its not so bad? Who knows. All I know is it can be a dangerous game to play. Better off using your positives and achievements to prove you are worth more, than lying IMO
I would be very straight with them, tell them you like the job and the company and would be keen to work there (if this is true, see below) but to make the move worth your while financially as well could they increase the salary to...?
Give a number that you want, that you will definitely sign for. Also have a minimum in mind that you would move for, and if they don't meet you on this stay put. Obviously don't tell them what this is.
If the above is not true and you actually prefer where you are anyway then stay put. Unless the money is hugely better and money is a massive motivator for you then usually staying with a job you enjoy and that pays a decent rate is better in the long run financially and otherwise.
Give a number that you want, that you will definitely sign for. Also have a minimum in mind that you would move for, and if they don't meet you on this stay put. Obviously don't tell them what this is.
If the above is not true and you actually prefer where you are anyway then stay put. Unless the money is hugely better and money is a massive motivator for you then usually staying with a job you enjoy and that pays a decent rate is better in the long run financially and otherwise.
AJS- said:
I would be very straight with them, tell them you like the job and the company and would be keen to work there (if this is true, see below) but to make the move worth your while financially as well could they increase the salary to...?
Give a number that you want, that you will definitely sign for. Also have a minimum in mind that you would move for, and if they don't meet you on this stay put. Obviously don't tell them what this is.
If the above is not true and you actually prefer where you are anyway then stay put. Unless the money is hugely better and money is a massive motivator for you then usually staying with a job you enjoy and that pays a decent rate is better in the long run financially and otherwise.
cheers that is what I was thinking and sometimes you have to take a risk so I will ring him up on Monday. ThanksGive a number that you want, that you will definitely sign for. Also have a minimum in mind that you would move for, and if they don't meet you on this stay put. Obviously don't tell them what this is.
If the above is not true and you actually prefer where you are anyway then stay put. Unless the money is hugely better and money is a massive motivator for you then usually staying with a job you enjoy and that pays a decent rate is better in the long run financially and otherwise.
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